AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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He doesn't remember her name and he may have delivered packages to her address? Also seems detached that what's her name was kidnapped like he hasn't heard her name a million times if he has a TV or social media
Makes sense to me. It was one of many things he did that day IMO. They don’t keep accurate record of details off the tops of their heads IMO
 
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Not necessarily. It could be a matter of hours from getting the warrant sworn out to complete analysis since they’re operating under the assumption NG is alive and in danger. A warrant may have not even been necessary at first depending on what is requested and the circumstances - sometimes providers will willingly hand over the information with law enforcement swearing it’s a covered exception.

JMO
Thank you! Reason I was focusing on that is because if it did take awhile then I would think he would have been a person of interest prior to the video being released but it seems like that isn’t the case :)
 
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How did the perp get into the home? Is there any new information, that I am missing, that shared how they entered? Front, back? window? Were they let in? I would think that NG having a hearing aide and it being left behind, would mean she did not hear anything to answer a door?
 
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I see your point but it also comes across defensively if there is evidence he had been at her address
IMO I’d be defensive too if I was questioned about a crime I didn’t commit and they are wanting me to recall all these details that I couldn’t remember
 
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This theory doesn’t work IMO because we don’t know she had any life threatening medication needs and also wasn’t there some info shared by the kidnappers that was only known to NG’s inner circle, providing indirect proof of life? Can someone confirm this?
Most banks limit your daily withdrawals from an ATM to around 1200. This wasnt a 1200$ crime. Plus, going to an ATM means exposure to another camera..even IF NG made the withdrawal, it would have cameras in the parking lot or DEFINITELY a camera at the ATM which could pick up a part of a vehicle, the perps face etc. MOO As for life threatening medication...we are not talking a lack of insulin. Yes, blood thinners need to be taken but even on blood thinners people have strokes..nothing is 100%. Most drugs have a half life, meaning they continue to stay in your system for several days at varying strengths. That being said, 10 days is a lot. First few days? Nothing I can think of that would have killed her cardiac wise, if she missed a few doses..NOW? HMMMMM JMO
 
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I think IMO we can’t tell race or ethnicity because of the mask, truly. We can’t see many features at all and unless I can see the person in front of me and listen to voice, I personally wouldn’t be able to tell by these pictures alone
Yes, it was a toss up to me whether this person was Latino or AA. Or, I could be totally off, and they are Italian, or Lithuanian or a Pacific Islander. All this to say, with the mask in place, we can guess, but that's about it.
 
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Yes, it does not communicate with the app but while the Bluetooth connection is enabled there will be constant/regular connectivity between the two while they are in range, this is separate from when it is actively transmitting the data across.
Right... and I would imagine it would leave a notification on the phone or in the app that it is out of range or it lost connection.

The wording in the timeline is a good clue that this is what LE saw IMO

Pacemaker APP shows DISCONNECT from phone.


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Yeah, this is a good point. I have never tried removing my doorbells without the tool (I don't even currently have one, but I've had a few brands in the past), but I have no doubt that you could do it without much trouble if you don't care about damage. I will say, I saw no evidence of damage in the photos of the mount, but that doesn't mean that there's not damage to the (unrecovered, AFAIK) camera.

That said, to avoid perpetuating any tidbits of misinformation, I do not think there is any video of the perpetrator picking up a rock. Please provide a link if you have one, because I haven't seen that. There is video of them picking up the flowers from the ground, but that's all I'm aware of.
Ah, my bad. That's as you say the flower bed where he pulls up the flowers. Will go back and change my message hehe.
 
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Carlos' eyes and mustache looks like lantana man. IMO.
I disagree. This guy doesn't resemble the minimal features we can see in the videos.
 
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That coupled with the fact that he has an unmarked white van and some association with his phone (per CP). It was a good lead that LE was right to follow up. The manner in which they did it was probably a bit of overkill, IMO.
Source for white van confirmation. Thank you.
 
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This theory doesn’t work IMO because we don’t know she had any life threatening medication needs and also wasn’t there some info shared by the kidnappers that was only known to NG’s inner circle, providing indirect proof of life? Can someone confirm this?


Per the family she required 17 daily medications, some life threatening if she did not get them within 24 hours. WHAT those medications are exactly is protected medical information.
 
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The Media Coverage is TOO MUCH and I fear it may cause serious consequences for the investigation.

Imagine if you are the person holding Nancy (if that’s ever been a thing), and you see this all unfolding. I’m going to call it quits, get rid of evidence and hopefully disappear.

Nancy never comes home, alive or deceased.

I think this has turned into a circus and it’s appalling

MOO
The world is glued to social media, hanging by every thread. A tragedy of epic proportions for the Guthrie family. PLEASE LET NANCY COME HOME 🙏
 
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El Paso airport announced closed for 10 days last night for national security concern. All flights canceled. Now reopened this morning. Has to be related! MOO
 
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IMO I’d be defensive too if I was questioned about a crime I didn’t commit and they are wanting me to recall all these details that I couldn’t remember
Yes I agree. I also hope there is time spent to ensure SIL/AG are not continuing to deal with this cloud of suspicion over them on top of dealing with their mother/MIL missing.
 
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Thank you for this.
I've been here nearly six years, logging in nearly every day, and I love the community, but this case has really given me pause. Not only for the many troubling comments but also for the increasing similarities to unhealthy social media platforms, most of which I've left because of the drama and, well, lies.
I think I need to take a pause.
Indeed.
 
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I agree. Let me say, too, I am married to an Hispanic person, so no racial motivation here. As a society, we have just really swung so far the other way. Now you cannot even throw out an ethnicity or nationality without being labeled racist.
Absolutely. I personally don't care what race or nationality the person is, even the "Flying Purple People Eater", so long as NG is located and hopefully brought home alive. I also think it is reasonable, when giving descriptions to mention all appearance, including skin: pocked with acne, sunburnt, white skin (there are several: porcelain, peaches and cream, ruddy, freckled, olive); various shades of black and tan . . . IF LE is working a case having a good description helps.
 
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It said ‘lost connection’ at 2.28am so that implies they have data that shows connectivity up to this point, which is probably based on the Bluetooth connectivity history on the phone.
I think it said "is disconnected" which could mean it was not connected at the time point (2:28) when the monitor attempted to download the data. But if they are talking about a blue tooth connection, you are probably right.
 
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I disagree. This guy doesn't resemble the minimal features we can see in the videos.
This guys eyes look nothing like the pictures, different eyebrows and everything. Feel bad for him.
 
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I wonder if the man in the videos initial idea with the flowers was to stick them behind the camera and have the leaves block the lense. Doubt he wanted to take the cameras with him and make them a later problem he had to dispose of.
 
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The answer lies within where Uber driver dropped NG off. No solid proof of evidence that NG returned home after Uber driver assignment at around 5:30pm 1/31/26. I think the "suspects" at the home early morning 2/1/26 had family ties in some sort of way. Not random and the activity on 2/1/26 to me seems like a coverup to what happened that could have been tragic to NC night of 1/31/26
I thought that the SIL dropped her off at home and the Uber driver brought Nancy to their house for dinner but I could be mistaken.
 

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