AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[txsleuth70]

I thought he said the note says the sender indicates knowing who the kidnapper is and is requesting 1 bitcoin in exchange for the information. But you could be right.
What is 1 bitcoin worth today?
Source Fox news live

$66K!

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Ai will add details and take away details. It is not reliable. An AI just wants to create a picture that it thinks makes sense. So I don't think it can be trusted. I saw so many AI colorized pictures floating around yesterday of the perpetrator that looked wildly different.

AI provided a couple of pix of me based on an original pix. The AI photos looked nothing like me…therefore I wouldn’t stake my life on it. MOO

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: New letter to TMZ claims to know who kidnapper is

TMZ host Harvey Levin revealed on Fox News “America’s Newsroom” on Wednesday that his outlet received a third alleged letter in relation to the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, claiming to know who the alleged kidnapper is.

www.foxnews.com

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“An hour and a half ago, we got, kind of a bizarre letter, an email from somebody who says they know who the kidnapper is and that they have tried reaching Savannah's sister Annie and Savannah's brother, to no avail. And they said they want one Bitcoin sent to a Bitcoin address that we have confirmed is active. It's a real Bitcoin address, and as they put it, time is more than relevant. So we have no idea whether this is real or not. But they are making a demand.”

Levin added the note included a name and email address.

 

[PayrollNerd]

The position of the gun and the holster it is in, almost looks like modified version of a flag holder? I remember in high school I carried the American Flag in a parade and had to wear one. Just a thought as to why the gun was centered, rather than on a hip.

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[su5ie]

I thought he said the note says the sender indicates knowing who the kidnapper is and is requesting 1 bitcoin in exchange for the information. But you could be right.
What is 1 bitcoin worth today?
Source Fox news live

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[RatFace]

I thought he said the note says the sender indicates knowing who the kidnapper is and is requesting 1 bitcoin in exchange for the information. But you could be right.
What is 1 bitcoin worth today?
Source Fox news live

Sorry, I should have been more specific and said info on NG's abduction.

 

[Fascinated1]

Supposedly the note contained the name and email address of the person who has NG. Maybe they are just trying to be anonymous because they are scared. They didn’t demand the bitcoin before revealing the name ….so hopefully it will be checked out. Moo.

 

[Fargo]

Everyone here plus millions of others have googled NG’s name! I find it hard to believe that was the reason LE detained this person. There’s something else…IMO

Agreed. I think they made it up, but that's the basis they gave CP to stop him. They're allowed to lie like that. IMO

 

[Eli9]

$66K!

Dang!

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[SaraSmile]

Facial recognition software can make certain determinations using measurements of facial features then compare to a database of measurements then make a probability of the nationality even through a mask. Software can be trained to analyze facial features to estimate age, gender, and ethnic background. These are not absolute identifications but rather statistical probabilities based on datasets.

DBM

 

[zecats]

Harvey Levin on Foxnews right now saying they got a note from a person claiming to have info on NG and asking for bitcoin to reveal it.

Hmm.. the way tips about said subject works is normally, you provide tip and if valid or leads to resolution, then you get reward money. This is in reverse. Why not just come forward to give the tip…or give anonymously. JMO

 

[Assassino]

Backpack seems like an abduction kit. On Megyn Kelly, that former FBI Maureen O'Connell said perhaps there was a tarp in there to be used if needed. But they couldn't figure out why if a homicide took place at home, why you'd risk taking a body and having to get rid of it. Very uncommon.

But the full backpack likely means robbery was not the motive. or where the hell would you put anything stolen.

I agree. Murder does not appear to be the initial motive. So if something went wrong and she ended up dying or even getting severely injured in a struggle or when entering the home, it would be very unlikely that the individual took Nancy anyway. They'd probably just leave her there and get the hell out of there. That's what gives me some hope she's alive, although constant indirect communication doesn't make a whole lot of sense if the kidnapper(s) truly wanted money.

I have to think some other people are involved. Assuming for a second she's still alive, it's not easy to keep a woman captive on your own. I think this individual likely either lives with people who are part of this or if they do live alone, they have her tied up, while they tend to other things. But having an 84 year old woman constantly tied up seems like it would not be ideal, so I'm leaning other people somehow aiding in this situation. Again, assuming Nancy is still alive.

 

[Fargo]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: New letter to TMZ claims to know who kidnapper is

TMZ host Harvey Levin revealed on Fox News “America’s Newsroom” on Wednesday that his outlet received a third alleged letter in relation to the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, claiming to know who the alleged kidnapper is.

www.foxnews.com

<snipped & BBM>
“An hour and a half ago, we got, kind of a bizarre letter, an email from somebody who says they know who the kidnapper is and that they have tried reaching Savannah's sister Annie and Savannah's brother, to no avail. And they said they want one Bitcoin sent to a Bitcoin address that we have confirmed is active. It's a real Bitcoin address, and as they put it, time is more than relevant. So we have no idea whether this is real or not. But they are making a demand.”

Levin added the note included a name and email address.

Somebody about to be arrested for extortion. IMO

 

[SMK777]

Everyone here plus millions of others have googled NG’s name! I find it hard to believe that was the reason LE detained this person. There’s something else…IMO

If it's true as reported last night that there was a warrant pursuant to his being stopped and detained, let's hope it's something more. And yet he was released, so it makes you wonder what they really had.

 

[PCHS]

I looked through the thread, and apologize if I missed this...Last night it was said that LE deposited <$300 in the bitcoin account provided by the sender of the ransom note to TMZ - did anything come of this?

 

[Skagirl]

JMO But I feel like it's so gross to be asking for bitcoin in exchange for supposed legit information. Like what the heck? Just be a good person and tell the police what you know. The fact that money has to be involved automatically makes me think this person does not have legit information.

 

[shadowsc]

"They told me I watched the news and googled her number - or her name - and I'm like "prove it to me" and they couldn't prove it to me. It was insufficient evidence and like they only had a phone on me, that's all." CP Timestamp: 1:40

The video is ABC15 Arizona. Looks like you have to watch on YouTube.

He comes across as very innocent! As much as it sucks, I'm actually glad he and his MIL came right out and talked freely with the media. His demeanor right after this raid is not the kind of thing you can fake or posture. I think FBI figured out real fast, "this is not the guy."

 

[Lebowski]

I just wanted to talk about this for a moment, since a lot of people seem to be surprised and I think it's important information for being informed consumers of technology products.

If you use a cloud-connected device such as a security camera, the video is going to be uploaded to the servers no matter whether you have a subscription or not. If it wasn't, you would not be able to view the video at all in the app, and you wouldn't get any alerts. The way these cloud cameras work is that the app connects to the cloud service, and the camera connects to the cloud service, and that's where the video feed comes from. It simply does not work without going through the cloud. The subscription is just about whether you get access to any stored video history or not (and maybe things like enhanced alerts and object detection). There are security camera products that do not work this way, and you can buy them, but if you buy a cloud camera like a Nest or Ring, this is how it works.

You should also assume that any video or photos that go through a cloud service may be retained either briefly or indefinitely, and either intentionally or accidentally. This is an unavoidable result of the way these complex distributed systems work; it's not nefarious. I know there are people here who will not believe me, and that's fine, but I can say with certainty that Google is not storing 100% of video and images for all users forever. But that does not mean that every frame is deleted immediately, either (as we have clearly seen in this case). Some stuff is stored for a short period for processing. Other stuff may linger in caches, backups, or other ancillary data stores. Certain things may intentionally be retained for a longer period for various reasons. Sometimes they may be stored in ways that are trivial to access, and sometimes (usually in the more ancillary examples), it takes some real digging to piece it back together.

Two things can be true: not everything that goes to the server is saved, and anything that goes to the server might be saved. I realize that this nuance might be confusing if you're not technical, so it's easier to either assume "canceling the subscription means Google never sees anything" or "Google is lying to us and storing everything forever," but it really is neither of those.

Bottom line, if you're uneasy about having your information in the cloud service, do not buy a cloud-connected device. Buy one that records locally only. These have their own drawbacks, but you should make an informed decision about which tradeoffs make the most sense to you and your own risk profile. I personally don't worry about the cloud storage, but that's just me. No shame in making a different decision for yourself and your family.

if anyone thinks companies are storing everything forever from our doorbell cameras, the easy way to shoot that down is to do a little math and see that it's probably not even possible. and even if it is, it would get really expensive, really quickly. and for what benefit to them? google doesn't care if there's an amazon package on your porch. and if they want to be nosy about when your neighbor walks by for social media reasons, they can get that a lot more cheaply from location data.

obviously companies DO care about browsing habits, location data, and stuff like that. there's a whole industry around collecting and buying and selling that kind of data. but that kind of data takes up much less memory and is a LOT cheaper to store than images and audio and especially video recording. if you're not paying a company to store stuff like that, they're deleting it as fast as they can.

 

[warp3dwing]

I'm probably just being thick, out of the loop, or both, but can someone explain the camera timeline?

01:47 MST - Doorbell camera disconnects
02:12 MST - Software detects person on camera

So, if the camera disconnected at 01:47, which camera detected a person at 02:12?

Do they mean a physical disconnection (removed from wall/door) or a WiFi disconnection? Nest cameras are battery-powered, so are they saying it was physically removed at 01:47, was being carried around or placed on the ground temporarily, and somehow picked up a stray person while still connected to WiFi?

 

[ivylambs]

There is no shot that person actually knows who the kidnapper is. MOO