AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Fargo]

I'm probably just being thick, out of the loop, or both, but can someone explain the camera timeline?

01:47 MST - Doorbell camera disconnects
02:12 MST - Software detects person on camera

So, if the camera disconnected at 01:47, which camera detected a person at 02:12?

Do they mean a physical disconnection (removed from wall/door) or a WiFi disconnection? Nest cameras are battery-powered, so are they saying it was physically removed at 01:47, was being carried around or placed on the ground temporarily, and somehow picked up a stray person while still connected to WiFi?

If the camera disconnected at 01:47 then:

1) Lost WiFi
2) Camera destroyed
3) Camera removed from property/WiFi range
4) Battery removed

IMO

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Can’t stop thinking about the crime. Adult kidnapping is very rare in the US. Was the perpetrator a fantasist influenced by video games or movies? Kidnapping for ransom is much commoner in Mexico— so much so that rich people have body guards. Did someone familiar with kidnapping as a crime see an opportunity in which a woman would be easy prey but possibly worth a lot? IF this is a planned kidnapping at all? — I haven’t read a plausible scenario yet, really. As if we all just accept the crime at face value. It’s really very bizarre. —

 

[PCHS]

Good point. And how did TMZ become the broker of ransom - or extortion - demands.


Exactly. I think that's why the initial reward amount was so low. Not because the family was being "cheap" but because higher amounts tend to bring out anyone just trying to make a crude buck and who are unserious.

Right if they had anything though they would just go to LE to get the 50K reward nice/legal instead of extorting for 60+K

 

[crcap]

I never would’ve thought 11 days later we would still not have Nancy

 

[ly502]

Harvey Levin on Foxnews right now saying they got a note from a person claiming to have info on NG and asking for bitcoin to reveal it.

When? A new note since the deadline on Monday?

 

[MissMYB]

/Dbm

Ooops

 

[minazoe]

Right if they had anything though they would just go to LE to get the 50K reward nice/legal instead of extorting for 60+K

it is weird...but they don't want to get involved in person maybe? it's really scummy to with hold info. sounds shady as he!!. mOO

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

There's a 50k reward, right? Seems odd to make a deal for a bit more?

Not if you’re afraid of retaliation for snitching.

 

[Love Never Fails]

When? A new note since the deadline on Monday?

Cruel

 

[EyeCandy]

I'm probably just being thick, out of the loop, or both, but can someone explain the camera timeline?

01:47 MST - Doorbell camera disconnects
02:12 MST - Software detects person on camera

So, if the camera disconnected at 01:47, which camera detected a person at 02:12?

Do they mean a physical disconnection (removed from wall/door) or a WiFi disconnection? Nest cameras are battery-powered, so are they saying it was physically removed at 01:47, was being carried around or placed on the ground temporarily, and somehow picked up a stray person while still connected to WiFi?

 

[Curiousobserver]

AT THIS point this will be the norm...lots of people looking to make a quick buck.

I fear this is going to become the new normal.

 

[SaraSmile]

if anyone thinks companies are storing everything forever from our doorbell cameras, the easy way to shoot that down is to do a little math and see that it's probably not even possible. and even if it is, it would get really expensive, really quickly. and for what benefit to them? google doesn't care if there's an amazon package on your porch. and if they want to be nosy about when your neighbor walks by for social media reasons, they can get that a lot more cheaply from location data.

obviously companies DO care about browsing habits, location data, and stuff like that. there's a whole industry around collecting and buying and selling that kind of data. but that kind of data takes up much less memory and is a LOT cheaper to store than images and audio and especially video recording. if you're not paying a company to store stuff like that, they're deleting it as fast as they can.

JMO
I think they still had info because it was very recent, thankfully!

 

[Tugb0ats]

DOES IT MATTER WHO DROPPED HER OFF ANYMORE? There is a perp on video camera with times etc. She is missing.. Pacemaker stopped syncing. with apple watch because she is out of range...time to be forward looking..moo

Yes, it matters. If she didn’t actually make it home, then her last verified location was her daughter’s house. That would significantly impact the timeline and could suggest the events started there, not at her home. Confirming that detail isn’t backward-looking, it’s critical to understanding the case.

 

[Fargo]

it is weird...but they don't want to get involved in person maybe? it's really scummy to with hold info. sounds shady as he!!. mOO

Not wanting to get involved in person isn't worth federal charges for extortion and five other things the feds will tack on. IMO

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Not if you’re afraid of retaliation for snitching.

Or at least more afraid of retaliation than the risk of being found guilty of extortion or other charges they could find. Makes this feel more ominous and complicated.

 

[justme11]

I thought he said the note says the sender indicates knowing who the kidnapper is and is requesting 1 bitcoin in exchange for the information. But you could be right.
What is 1 bitcoin worth today?
Source Fox news live

Per Nasdaq

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/cryptocurrency/btc

 

[ivylambs]

There's a 50k reward, right? Seems odd to make a deal for a bit more?

People don’t always get the reward money for one reason or another (the McDonald’s lady didn’t get it for Luigi). And I wonder if it’s taxable?

 

[Eli9]

Yes, it matters. If she didn’t actually make it home, then her last verified location was her daughter’s house. That would significantly impact the timeline and could suggest the events started there, not at her home. Confirming that detail isn’t backward-looking, it’s critical to understanding the case.

One can easily deduct she made it home. Her blood was on the porch.

 

[EyeCandy]

Interesting...my BackDoor Ring Camera notified me yesterday that the battery is dead. So this morning I bring it inside to charge it. I at this moment have it plugged into the USB port on my laptop...as I type. As soon as it charged up enough it alerted me that "someone" is detected at my back door...it is seeing ME at this moment moving it around at the laptop to charge it.

So could it be the perp turned the camera face down and then on the way OUT the door he picked it up to take it with them and that is WHEN it got the 2:27 or so "detected image"...

The camera will detect visual AWAY from its mount...it's detected me and I'm 100ft or so away from the laptop and I'm using WIFI

 

[PCHS]

Not if you’re afraid of retaliation for snitching.

I think if you are afraid then 66K isn't worth it either. I would think if you are afraid you say nothing and certainly not for 66K