Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[EyeCandy]

Interesting...my BackDoor Ring Camera notified me yesterday that the battery is dead. So this morning I bring it inside to charge it. I at this moment have it plugged into the USB port on my laptop...as I type. As soon as it charged up enough it alerted me that "someone" is detected at my back door...it is seeing ME at this moment moving it around at the laptop to charge it.

So could it be the perp turned the camera face down and then on the way OUT the door he picked it up to take it with them and that is WHEN it got the 2:27 or so "detected image"...

The camera will detect visual AWAY from its mount...it's detected me and I'm 100ft or so away from the laptop and I'm using WIFI

 

[PCHS]

Not if you’re afraid of retaliation for snitching.

I think if you are afraid then 66K isn't worth it either. I would think if you are afraid you say nothing and certainly not for 66K

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Yes, it matters. If she didn’t actually make it home, then her last verified location was her daughter’s house. That would significantly impact the timeline and could suggest the events started there, not at her home. Confirming that detail isn’t backward-looking, it’s critical to understanding the case.

How would this "never made it home" scenario work given the video evidence of a person intending harm later in the night at the house?

 

[bbb1349]

I fear this is going to become the new normal.

I feel like it is still a very difficult crime to get away with. Kidnapping is harder than killing someone and then you also have to communicate with the family and receive payment, which is another chance for law enforcement to trace you.

I think if you wanted to make $1M in crime, you'd be a lot less likely to get caught if you just robbed a couple dozen mansions. And the penalties for getting caught are much less severe as well.

 

[Wsimm]

Right if they had anything though they would just go to LE to get the 50K reward nice/legal instead of extorting for 60+K

In criminal cases offering rewards, what is the typical time it takes for the person offering the tip to receive the reward? Maybe this tipster is impatient and doesn’t want to wait for a government payout.?

 

[Eli9]

People don’t always get the reward money for one reason or another (the McDonald’s lady didn’t get it for Luigi). And I wonder if it’s taxable?

The reward money would most likely be taxable.

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The legal foundation for taxing these rewards is found in Section 61 of the Internal Revenue Code, which defines gross income in very broad terms to ensure most financial gains are captured. Because there is no specific federal law that creates an exemption for rewards related to reporting crimes, these payments are treated as taxable earnings.<a href="javascript%3Avoid(0)" title="GovInfo. 26 U.S.C. § 61">1</a>

 

[zecats]

it is weird...but they don't want to get involved in person maybe? it's really scummy to with hold info. sounds shady as he!!. mOO

There is normally a way to provide tips anonymously. You can be verified later if tip pans out. No excuse to withhold this info for reasons of non identity. Moo

 

[EyeCandy]

How would this "never made it home" scenario work given the video evidence of a person intending harm later in the night at the house?

 

[oakayfine]

Delivery guy at 1:47 AM??? LOL

Amazon has been known to deliver at some strange times.

 

[Napoli]

I think it was due to a vehicle spotted somewhere and I say this because a reporter showed CP's mother-in-law something and asked if that was his and she affirmed it. JMO.

LINK..NO way to know what you are referring to. "vehicle somewhere" "showed something" was it his and she affirmed it. When i say a reporter said it, Everyone demands a link..Sometimes i type what I hear in real time. There is no link at that moment. If saying a reporter said thus and so and that is accepted, then MODS, please advise.

 

[PCHS]

Yes, it matters. If she didn’t actually make it home, then her last verified location was her daughter’s house. That would significantly impact the timeline and could suggest the events started there, not at her home. Confirming that detail isn’t backward-looking, it’s critical to understanding the case.

I think at this point LE has been fairly focused on the family, extensively so. I also think it unlikely a masked man shows up the same night she happens to disappear and that is just coincidence. I also think it is very less than likely anyone in the family masked on the porch. IMO while it makes sense to investigate the family and clear them out as a first step, the info that is public now, makes it seem to me LESS likely it is family and more likely to be someone else familiar with NG (e.g. worker at house or someone affiliated with worker at house) Again JMO and if additional info comes out that contradicts this my opinion may change.

 

[EyeCandy]

if it was a set up to say .. kidnapping...could it be possible that indeed the person on the camera never kidnapped. Pansy and the kidnapping or whatever occured elsewhere. Hmm .. if only we knew what they found inside the home. The sheriff has been so around the posey so to say

 

[CandyKiss]

I never would’ve thought 11 days later we would still not have Nancy

Sadly, this does not surprise me when we have verified abductions of children taken 10,20 and 30 years ago without a trace.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

The reward money would most likely be taxable.

Is Crime Reward Money Taxable by the IRS?

Understand the tax obligations for crime reward money. Learn how the IRS classifies this income and the steps required for proper reporting on your tax return.

legalclarity.org

The legal foundation for taxing these rewards is found in Section 61 of the Internal Revenue Code, which defines gross income in very broad terms to ensure most financial gains are captured. Because there is no specific federal law that creates an exemption for rewards related to reporting crimes, these payments are treated as taxable earnings.<a href="javascript%3Avoid(0)" title="GovInfo. 26 U.S.C. § 61">1</a>

I'm disappointed that is the case, but sadly not surprised.

 

[floridafreshsqueez]

Can’t stop thinking about the crime. Adult kidnapping is very rare in the US. Was the perpetrator a fantasist influenced by video games or movies? Kidnapping for ransom is much commoner in Mexico— so much so that rich people have body guards. Did someone familiar with kidnapping as a crime see an opportunity in which a woman would be easy prey but possibly worth a lot? IF this is a planned kidnapping at all? — I haven’t read a plausible scenario yet, really. As if we all just accept the crime at face value. It’s really very bizarre. —

I came across this case recently: The Kidnapping and Torture of Mary Stauffer talk about a WILD read. I can’t decide if NG had a stalker or if she was taken because of her daughter’s wealth. Because Mary Stauffer and her daughter survived, I want to believe NG will too…although an 84 year old with her health problems escaping is harder to imagine.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Yes, it matters. If she didn’t actually make it home, then her last verified location was her daughter’s house. That would significantly impact the timeline and could suggest the events started there, not at her home. Confirming that detail isn’t backward-looking, it’s critical to understanding the case.

This is a completely logical position, but none of the data supports this.

The pacemaker disconnected from her phone, which was located at her house, along with her hearing aid, purse, and keys. She would have needed that to take that phone with her to dinner so that she could use the Uber. The Uber is logged in Uber's system, and confirmed by interviewing the driver. The fact that the phone is back at her home corroborates the story that someone drove back there, as does the hearing aids which you normally take out before you go to sleep.

Further, there is now video of a person at her home that fits the timeline: the same time of her camera disconnect, and shortly after her pacemaker, lodged in her chest, disconnects from the phone inside.

 

[PCHS]

Amazon has been known to deliver at some strange times.

Yes usually not 147 AM more like 3-5AM, regardless though they usually leave a package and don't dress for the type of business the masked guy did imo

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Interesting...my BackDoor Ring Camera notified me yesterday that the battery is dead. So this morning I bring it inside to charge it. I at this moment have it plugged into the USB port on my laptop...as I type. As soon as it charged up enough it alerted me that "someone" is detected at my back door...it is seeing ME at this moment moving it around at the laptop to charge it.

So could it be the perp turned the camera face down and then on the way OUT the door he picked it up to take it with them and that is WHEN it got the 2:27 or so "detected image"...

The camera will detect visual AWAY from its mount...it's detected me and I'm 100ft or so away from the laptop and I'm using WIFI

My guess was it was detecting movement because it was in his/her pocket. But, I know nothing about these things.

 

[Chimera]

Yes, it matters. If she didn’t actually make it home, then her last verified location was her daughter’s house. That would significantly impact the timeline and could suggest the events started there, not at her home. Confirming that detail isn’t backward-looking, it’s critical to understanding the case.

I believe this is very relevant. ^^^

We still do not know if Nancy ever made it home that evening, and the daughter lives close enough that the pacemaker would keep syncing until Nancy herself was driven further out of range ?
What if Nancy was in a vehicle, alive or deceased, and was never moved from it, while the intruder was inside her house, rifling through her things ?
LE seem to have thought that it was a crime scene they were looking at, so even if nothing was taken were items looking as if a search had been carried out ?
So many unanswered questions.
Imo.

 

[Tugb0ats]

One can easily deduct she made it home. Her blood was on the porch.

Blood on the porch only proves she was at the house at some point. It doesn’t prove she ‘made it home’ in the sense of being safely dropped off and left there. That’s a big assumption to jump to.