AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I know experts are saying this person doesn’t seem professional or intelligent based on some of the things that were done (picking flowers, trying to hide from the camera, etc.). But if this person is truly that ‘stupid,’ then how have they managed to avoid being caught this long? IMO, they don’t seem as dumb as people are making them out to be, this could be far more organized and professional than assumed. Unless that’s exactly the point? …maybe they’re downplaying this person publicly to provoke a reaction or get them to make a mistake.
 
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I'm listening to scanner and someone reported a ski mask found in an alley by their home 19 min away from NG house. No news source has confirmed this yet so not official and just my speculation
Lets hope and pray there is DNA on it!
 
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Does it look like he has some sort of tool in his right hand? It looks to me like a syringe, or knife?
Too hazy to really tell from those shots. However, I'm pretty sure there's something larger/bulky sticking slightly out of his right jacket pocket. ~0:14-ish. Right hand puts things into right pocket, so... 🤷‍♂️

Whatever it is, it seems distinct from the bag strap and doesn't look like a zipper pull or something else attached to the jacket as it seems there is mass/form to it within the pocket when looking from other angles and it is heavy/bulky enough to hold the pocket open a bit.

Looks like a knurled or striated surface, a tool or something. I could be completely wrong and it's the zipper pull or something soft, but it looks dense and I didn't see one on the other pocket.
 

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So the article says that Carlos stated he was detained because a relative of his called in a tip that said that Carlos' eyes looked like the guy in the video released by the FBI at NG's front door.
Well, that is going to be an awkward family gathering next time....
 
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Oh, I don't mean morbid thoughts, just general housekeeping that likely needs to be done. There is likely food and garbage that needs attending to, and there might be things at Mom's house they would like to have right now for comfort and/or practical purposes.

But with media and youtubers staring at the house with cameras poised, they might not feel comfortable going there. That is very sad and frustrating as is it the home where they grew up for the most part.

That is THEIR place, but the media and youtubers are squatting there.

jmo
Oh sure, I knew exactly what you meant. It’s just when you mentioned refrigerator, my mind went somewhere morbid, and I gave myself the creeps wondering if NG had a large chest type deep freezer. I don’t remember the documentary but a man that had killed his mother, hid her body at the bottom of the deep freezer at his home/hunting lodge.
 
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One other quote from a neighbor, Robert Reinhart, on what says law enforcement told him during the activity seen in Annie Guthrie’s neighborhood Tuesday. “I believe they said in case someone was tossing a camera from a car window, we’re looking throughout the whole neighborhood.”
 
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Maybe they did via the ransom letter. Just a thought. They obviously wanted it out in the media i.e. TMZ.
If legitimate and not a scam. Has anything been made public about what these messages said? There is a new one today.
 
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Does anyone know how far a pacemaker has to be from a phone before it disconnects?

One thing that trips me up is the 1:47 to 2:28 time frame. That's an awful long time for kidnappers to remain in the house. Especially if the place wasn't ransacked or showing signs of robbery. What were they doing that whole time? I can't imagine it would take long to subdue a frail, elderly woman and squirrel her out of there?
I am wondering the same, VegasGirl.
1. How far was NG from her phone before it disconnected?
2. I would think two men could get NG out of the house in fairly short order.
3. Perhaps there was only one man, an inexperienced one who was on a learning curve.
4. Or they spent some time staging so as to cover up the crime details or distract LE.
5. Could NG have put up more of a struggle than we think? If adrenaline started flowing she could have resisted more than the perps anticipated. Perhaps we are underestimating NG. Some older women are tough cookies especially if someone starts putting their hands on them.
 
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Well, had he just received a knock and talk I might agree. But they searched and, according to him, damage his home and detained several members of his family. Not to mention whatever damage they might have done to his vehicle.
An 84 year old women's life potentially hangs in the balance. LE had a lead that he may have been somehow involved in her disappearance. They were looking for Nancy, time was of the essence.
 
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Does it matter that the FBI statement states the recovery of Nancy Guthrie instead of rescue? Am I reading too much into the wording?

JMO
Where did you read recover ?
 
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It's basically a task force, with the FBI doing much of the work.

Bringing in a private investigator is unlikely to be very helpful, because this person doesn't have access to things like (phone downloads, cell tower data, DNA, surveillance, etc).

It's certainly not a vote of confidence though.
Can't blame NG's family. We just know what's publically visible and it looks like a circus. No telling what missteps and craziness are happening behind the scenes.
 
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Oh sure, I knew exactly what you meant. It’s just when you mentioned refrigerator, my mind went somewhere morbid, and I gave myself the creeps wondering if NG had a large chest type deep freezer. I don’t remember the documentary but a man that had killed his mother, hid her body at the bottom of the deep freezer at his home/hunting lodge.
If she had one, I sure hope it's been searched by now.
 
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It's likely he got distracted by the second camera and spent 15 minutes trying to obscure it with flowers like he did with the first one.
Just so you know, if you’re so sick of everyone having opinions you don’t agree with since you know best, maybe join one of the private chats?
 
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It reminds me of the ones they sale at Sam's club or Costco.
Fairly generic fleece. Have a few LL Bean ones that use the same type of elasticized tape at the wrist cuffs.
 
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Too hazy to really tell from those shots. However, I'm pretty sure there's something larger/bulky sticking slightly out of his right jacket pocket. ~0:14-ish. Right hand puts things into right pocket, so... 🤷‍♂️

Whatever it is, it seems distinct from the bag strap and doesn't look like a zipper pull or something else attached to the jacket as it seems there is mass/form to it within the pocket when looking from other angles and it is heavy/bulky enough to hold the pocket open a bit.

Looks like a knurled or striated surface, a tool or something. I could be completely wrong and it's the zipper pull or something soft, but it looks dense and I didn't see one on the other pocket.
Could it be the lit up buttons of a walkie talkie?
 
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I know this is kind of far fetched but could the perps be a terrorist cell?
I doubt it. The purpose of terrorist groups is to inflict maximum carnage, damage, and then make it known who was responsible to strike fear into the public, but also try to make a name for yourself to recruit other people to your cause. This has nothing of the sort. I don't believe terrorists are involved. Or cartels for that matter.
 
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no worries not being argumentative in asking for one at all, but I was curious why I hadn't seen one of them before and was hoping to go to the source.

Additional recovered images from the same camera at Nancy Guthrie’s front door the morning of her disappearance, including two videos of the individual.Anyone with information, please contact 1-800-CALL-FBI or visit http://tips.fbi.gov


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