AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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The pic with no backpack has to be BEFORE, because after he disabled the camera, it would stop recording anything, at least from the location on the doorbell.
exactly. so approached door with neither backpack or weapon, presumably sees camera. Then returns with both backpack and weapon, rather ineffectively attempts to cover the camera with stray foliage plucked from nearby and then later disables it.

JMO Doesn't seem well planned or necessarily targeted to me when viewed in that light.
 
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ONE live streamer is out in desert looking for FBI...this is getting crazy.
And if it's who I think it is there are over 30,000 people watching. Incredible.
 
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After viewing surveillance from a local Circle K, LE seized NG’s vehicle and some have reasoned that her vehicle was seen on that surveillance during the hours she would be presumed to be home given her family’s claim they delivered her there.

But NG’s vehicle was in her garage when LE investigated her disappearance and LE reported that her keys were at the home (presumably in her purse, although I suppose she could store them on a key rack or something).

Why would a kidnapper take NG’s vehicle? Presumably, so no evidence of NG is found in their own vehicle (and if NG bled as being removed from her home, blood in particular would be a concern).

And would a kidnapper who has taken NG from her home in her own vehicle and made her disappear then risk later returning that vehicle to her home to park it in the garage?

It seems a monumental risk for a random kidnapper to take, returning to the scene of such a serious crime with the victim’s vehicle and reaccessing her garage. It risks returning AFTER her absence is discovered, and doubles the risk of being detected at her home at all. I wonder - were any of NG’s blood drips (or evidence such were cleaned up) found in her vehicle?
 
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Your post prompted a question for me - what he was looking for ANY house that he thought he could access. Something at her door made him think "this one." Then he went to get his gear (whatever that was for) before actually entering.

Maybe it wasn't targeted at all, but just he thought he could get in.

jmo
Your post triggered a thought for me.

The first week we lived in Arizona a stranger said to us "this is Arizona and we love our guns" (there's a story behind that).

I know that in my neighborhood there are many gun owners. The guy across the street has his gun cabinet (steel/large) in his garage and I've seen it when their garage door is open.

Your comment made me think the following: whoever this was, knew she was an elderly woman living alone. I really do think the demographic in some areas = guns on hand. Of course, for all we know, Nancy had a gun in the house. It's possible. But I think someone knew she was living in the house alone and was elderly. JMHO/MOO etc.
 
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I had heard that but then I also heard there was a $5 million deposit sometime after that being reported. Don't know how much truth there was to the $5 million--as things were all over the place yesterday as well and media was all over the place too.

Yesterday, I posted about a Israeli guy who does blockchain forensics and he was going to reach out to the investigators to offer his help. My understanding from reading that article was that they generally deposit a small amount. I thought the article said under $200, but I could be mistaken. Anyways, the link is here somewhere in this ever moving thread.
What were your sources for those assertions?
 
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IIRC, a good portion of that 90% were mistaken. I think we are just more accurate now with better investigative tools.
 
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It's insane that Pima County Sheriff’s Department says they’ve received more than 4,000 calls to tip lines and they decide to target some random guy in Rio Rico that was called in because he had similar eyes?? WTF. Doesn't give much confidence in these Fed agents so far...

 
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My initial thoughts on the abductor(s?) being in the house for 40ish minutes would be that they were trying to get NG to do something that she was not cooperating with, whether that was give them money/ bitcoin, call SG, call other kids to extort funds, etc. Then they got frustrated and switched to Plan B, which was to abduct her and send the ransom note. I don't feel as that was their initial intent. I also believe this would explain how she was injured and dripping blood on the doorstep, they injured her in their frustration.

My 2 cents: this wasn't completely random but it may be a stranger to the family. They knew who the target was related to and/ or that she had means herself. I think they were watching her for a long while, possibly in the house before she returned from the family dinner. Definitely amateur with the lack of planning re: doorbell cam. I also think it was two people, one being the driver/ lookout. Unfortunately I don't think NG was alive long after leaving the house and I do believe she was dumped somewhere fairly early on.
 
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Some men tattoo their wrist with a cross. When they extend their arm, the cross is placed as seen in copied pic. Looking at perp’s wrist, I’m wondering if the tat is a cross due to the spacing from top to mid-section?
Could it be a wristband/sweatband?
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I think the picture with the suspect NOT wearing the backpack doesn’t come from FBI? I think it’s throwing people off that the suspect at some point was at the front door with no backpack and then miraculously had a backpack.
it came from head of FBI's twitter yesterday. Members were kind enough to provide me with link
 
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I do not have “brain fog” when I wake up.
It was more of a generalisation, rather than an "every single person suffers from it" type statement.

I'm sure you have however woken up at 2am before, and felt a bit groggy or confused. That's what the reference was to.
 
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It's insane that Pima County Sheriff’s Department says they’ve received more than 4,000 calls to tip lines and they decide to target some random guy in Rio Rico that was called in because he had similar eyes?? WTF. Doesn't give much confidence in these Fed agents so far...

Honestly, that should probably tell you that there was more to it than the person’s speculation about being tipped in because of his eyes…
 
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Why would the Perp have driven to AG's neighborhood to toss evidence? That makes absolutely zero sense to me.

I would expect that to be done in the vicinity of NG house or major roads leading away from the crime, but not in the residential neighborhood of the victims family. So odd
Maybe to make it look like family members had something to do with this (ie, they threw evidence out close to their home)? That is not my theory, just throwing it out there.
MOO.

ETA: clarity
 
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I think the picture with the suspect NOT wearing the backpack doesn’t come from FBI? I think it’s throwing people off that the suspect at some point was at the front door with no backpack and then miraculously had a backpack.
It would be great/helpful to see the time stamps on these photos, that one in particular.

MOO
 
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They just took two bags out of AG home and searching/retrieving mail from mailbox...
 

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