It was reported here at WS a couple hundred posts back that she attended virtual church services at SG's church in NY. A group of local friends would get together to watch at one person's house. One of this group was supposed to pick NG up to attend this group viewing. I will look for the OP.I do not have “brain fog” when I wake up.
I have read/heard nothing about a neighbor taking her to church.
I understood from reading evidence/information she attended Mass via the internet, an online link.
Seems like LE picked up mail and left.Thanks for this update and link, @MassGuy .
LE seem to keep focusing on the sister AG and by default, the SIL ?
Just an observation.
Omo.
Thank you-I'm going to edit my comment now. When I was replying to another poster, I found out I was wrong about it being new info.If I recall, BE originally reported (several days ago) that there was a blood trail going from the front door, down to the sidewalk to where it hits the drive/road. I think for some of us here since the beginning, it was on the first few pages of the thread. He noticed it as soon as they released the scene....the first time.
I thought it was a video that was posted here yesterday but apparently I am days behind on some of this lol. Here is a video that shows it. Blood trail found outside home of Savannah Guthrie’s momWhen did we find out about more blood?
That’s definitely the cross pattern; different sizes but that tat is on his skin - in between glove material and fleece (cream colored material) you'll see tat embedded into skin
Rhetorical question but what is driving them to search the AG home so many times (are we up to four times now?)? There must be a reason that magnetizes them in this direction... But not enough for any other action. Very curious. MOOOr that they are bad at this...now per BE they are back again at AG's house...repeat review again.
Possible forensic evidence taken from AG's home may be processed and causing LE to return to AG for further investigation.
That's true. They seemed to come and go quickly.They could honestly just be retrieving some needed items and the mail for the family since they are staying elsewhere. No telling.
Yes, thank you, I omitted money/ransom. That's the obvious motive and entirely possible. But there are countless wealthy grandmothers he/they could have preyed upon. They chose the mother of a relatively well-known TV personality. Why? Did they know who she is? Did they want this media attention?That is interesting and it's something I've been considering. Most people are sure this is motivated by money/ransom, and maybe it is, and probably still the most likely motive, but I'll say it doesn't fit the typical ransom case.
No clear line of communication. No proof of life. Why haven't they provided this by now? Why haven't they given some type of definitive proof they are the actual kidnappers? I mean, we're almost two weeks into this and LE still doesn't know with 100% certainty the ransom notes are from the actual kidnappers.
The fact that this case doesn't exhibit the usual steps that ransom cases take has left the door open for me that there is some other motive here. And one of those possibilities I wondered about was did Savannah Guthrie have some obsessed stalker fan... he went to that house expecting to kidnap Savannah and not her mother? He was surprised about who was inside, and then kidnapped her as some sort of demented consolation prize? This doesn't seem super likely either, because I figure if someone was after Savannah and didn't find her there, they'd just flee. But nothing about this case fits the typical makings of what you usually see in these types of cases.
Just wrote something similar.. I agree. For example, have they searched the other sibling's house like this? MOOI wish we knew what exactly is leading them towards AG or SIL. So, so much time spent searching and photographing her house and her neighborhood. Maybe they’re just trying to cover all their bases, but it still seems like so much? Is this level of scrutiny and searching standard? Hours spent every day![]()
I hope they’re not involved, so I hope it is just standard…
It was reported here at WS a couple hundred posts back that she attended virtual church services at SG's church in NY. A group of local friends would get together to watch at one person's house. One of this group was supposed to pick NG up to attend this group viewing. I will look for the OP.
I would have to color him really dumb if in fact he kept his cell phone on his person while committing this crime. JMOOI hope they looked at her wifi router to see if his phone tried to sync. There woukd have been some type of data packets they might could recover.
without encouraging sluething anyone who shouldn't be, I believe the couple have minor children, so perhaps games, toys or other items they just decided were needed.It is puzzling why they keep going back. You'd think they would have completed anything they needed to do there by now.
Or maybe he shouted through the door that he was X (someone she knew) and needed help so she opened the door
There has been some discussion on the time stamp today. Apparently Kash Patel has narrowed the video the the 2-amish point (anyone have a link pls?) so the larger time window has also been narrowed down. Strange they never gave a timestamp or just announced the time up front but it seems they didn't know exactly so maybe a corruption on the server they dug deep to get to (remember that was mentioned in the initial press release).With no time stamps it is impossible to determine. It could be that the pic with no backpack was taken a long time before anything even happened. It could have even been before NG arrived home for all we know. In fact, all the footage could be from before she came home, although removing the camera would be risky unless the perp knew for sure that she'd enter the house through the garage. Otherwise, she likely would have noticed the missing camera and not gone in the house. The perp obviously removed NG via the front door, thus the blood, and that's why they removed the camera beforehand.