Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[CandyKiss]

Yes! Zoom in and you can see it. II hope this has been shared with LE.

No, I've only shared it with WS.

 

[nycpizzaparty]

yes, that is what I posted... I see what you did; I should have extended my arrow... thank you

I was trying to be helpful. Just zoom in and circled.

 

[HoveringWombats]

when exactly was the video of the "intruder"(s) time stamped? and...we all know timestamps can be manipulated...

The timestamps from the Nest camera videos almost surely came from the server side, which would be quite difficult for an outside perp to manipulate. I think, absent some strong evidence to the contrary, we can trust those times. I think there's a (dramatically) higher likelihood of LE mis-stating the times or speaking loosely about them in misleading ways than them actually being manipulated such that they'd be incorrect on the server. MOO

 

[Van Helsing]

They may be nitrile or butyl. The thicker butyl gloves for chemical handling are like space suit gloves and resist acid. It looks like her wore that variety.

In either case, it would be hard to get a grip on anything, much less get a finger in the trigger guard of the gun. It's a very odd choice. You can see him fumbling when he handles the doorbell cam then goes to pick up the latanas. If he was confronted with an armed defender he would be at a great disadvantage drawing and handling a firearm w/ those gloves on.

I actually use these gloves in my workshop for cleaning guns, or using harsh solvents for stripping/refinishing firearms (using Acetone, M.E.K. and other chemical strippers). They are hella cumbersome.

Mechanics wear those and they are able to handle small parts very well. Check out some of the TRQ auto repair instructional videos on YouTube.

 

[snoopy100]

Occam's razor can point toward a simple explanation like ransom/kidnapping if there are real ransom demands and credible evidence. Occam's razor doesn't mean "it's ransom" it means the explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is more likely.

If these things are true:
The family publicly acknowledges ransom demands, they publicly say they will pay, there are credible reports that ransom notes/messages were sent, there is video of a suspect/abduction:

Then (right now) Occam's razor would favor the ransom kidnapping as the simplest explanation.

thank you so much for this

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Higher ups are grasping ! So now lets wait weeks to get any DNA results , if they can even get some. This whole thing is a show.
I feel SO bad for SG, mostly !!

And maybe they will find a dried out used teabag and they can interview it on the news and it can do the night show circuit.

 

[m00c0w]

Occam's razor can point toward a simple explanation like ransom/kidnapping if there are real ransom demands and credible evidence. Occam's razor doesn't mean "it's ransom" it means the explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is more likely.

If these things are true:
The family publicly acknowledges ransom demands, they publicly say they will pay, there are credible reports that ransom notes/messages were sent, there is video of a suspect/abduction:

Then (right now) Occam's razor would favor the ransom kidnapping as the simplest explanation.

I mean, not really... because there are a tremendous amount of assumptions leading up to the kidnapping itself, as well as after the kidnapping. There would likely have to be multiple co-conspirators keeping this a secret from everyone. They would have to know who NG was, where she lived, who she was related to, when she would be home, that she would be alone, that she was not armed, that she had no security system... the list goes on and on. Someone that knows her and is familiar with her routine requires far less assumptions by the very nature of knowing her.

JMO

 

[Bluewing3102]

First time I'm seeing Border Patrol in the area. Could be routine or unrelated

 

[Monepone]

What were they referring to as 'today's news" when they posted that article. First time I have seen the blood spots on the path as well.

It was the release of the videos.

 

[white rabbit]

FBI/LE may be trying to make someone nervous, but not by filming the video "last night."
The blood spots were clearly visible in the very first crime scene photos, the video released yesterday had no blood, and explains the "mysterious" dried vegetation seen in those first crime scene photos.
I'd be willing to bet the blood spots are STILL there--so I can't believe that the video was filmed anytime after early am February 1st.

agree to disagree. LE never cordoned off the 'crime scene' on the front walk from day one. nor will they confirm which door(s) were entered or exited, plus they walked back the 'forced entry' comments.

has anyone found a link to confirm/deny/report that AG/SIL's car was towed/evidenced? pure question. they towed NG's car, you'd think they towed the last car in which she was allegedly a passenger...

 

[Monepone]

They just left it there? Strange. It’s a Men’s golf shirt.

Yeah, seems really weird they would just leave it, but nothing surprises me about this investigation.

 

[Luna20]

thank you...i don't disagree.

what i'm saying is that over the last 1160 pages we've gone round and round with zilch. IMO the "ransom requests", TMZ, etc etc are simply 'hoax' distractions. those of us that have been here for (too) a long time see 'it is what it is'.

for all we know the intruder video was filmed last night under the FBI and LE watch. we have no idea. they're trying to make someone nervous IMO. the media is analyzing stride length, posture, behavioral biometrics. PULEEEZ.

after thousands of speculations, i'm only more cemented in the who the why the where and the how. JMO.

What are the initials of the “who”?

 

[Van Helsing]

No, I've only shared it with WS.

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to imply you specifically. They've probably analyzed these images in fine detail. I bet they also review this web site, and that some of the media do too.

 

[SaraSmile]

What would Occam's razor say about the full backpack?

jmo

I think the full backpack had rope, gag, body bag (to avoid blood in vehicle, make it easier to move her).
Just my ideas.

 

[abanddb123]

Out of the blue question, Those gloves everyones talking about, would those gloves be used like in a lab or to handle hot things? Just asking. Moo

 

[Der Detektiv]

How could he, or even multiple people, move a body on foot out of the area?

Stretcher?

Cheap and easily available in shops.

 

[UsernameRequired]

"They now have over 15,000 phone calls that have come in leads. Some of them have been dead ends. I think the guy in Rio Rico is an example of that. But you can feel how they're, you know, desperate," Kelly said. "We're in 11 days. She's elderly. She has health problems. You know, Gabby and I, you know, we live there in Tucson. We live, you know, pretty, pretty close by, probably about five miles away. And we're, you know, praying for you know, for savannah's Mom, for Nancy."

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021748206590099657

 

[Friday Fan]

First time I'm seeing Border Patrol in the area. Could be routine or unrelated
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They actually can assist LE to some extent. Maybe they can look for a body etc. See that it's night, they may have heat sensing equipment etc.

They showed up in Uvalde and it was a BP agent who finally shot the Robb Elementary school shooter.

It looks like they're going where others haven't been able to go. I don't think this is immigration enforcement.

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[Sticksandspades]

thank you...i don't disagree.

what i'm saying is that over the last 1160 pages we've gone round and round with zilch. IMO the "ransom requests", TMZ, etc etc are simply 'hoax' distractions. those of us that have been here for (too) a long time see 'it is what it is'.

for all we know the intruder video was filmed last night under the FBI and LE watch. we have no idea. they're trying to make someone nervous IMO. the media is analyzing stride length, posture, behavioral biometrics. PULEEEZ.

after thousands of speculations, i'm only more cemented in the who the why the where and the how. JMO.

How do you explain the Harvey Levin Interview about whats in the 'ransom letter'? He discusses items only the 'kidnapper' would know?

TMZ receives third letter claiming to know Nancy Guthrie kidnapper | Fox News Video

TMZ founder Harvey Levin joins 'America's Newsroom' after receiving another letter demanding cryptocurrency to ensure the safety of Nancy Guthrie. Levin says the note has been handed over to the FBI.

www.foxnews.com

 

[ssarahbg]

MOO
Speculation and theory:
After researching and reading a few theories and watching this most recent video, I do not think this was an intentional kidnapping or murder. I think the person was sent/hired to scare her. Then things went terribly wrong and then staging of the scene happened after the fact in the 40 minutes or before the pace maker disconnected. Now we are left to put the pieces together which is why none of what we see makes sense. Ransom notes are just opportunists trying to cash in and not related at all. I thought this from the beginning but after watching the video, I feel more strongly about this. I don’t think camera was removed right after this video of the perp but possibly after the situation went very wrong but not totally sure on that one.

My reasoning for this:
1. He’s way too nonchalant on camera for a kidnapping and really appears to inexperienced (weapon placement, foliage to cover the camera, body language)
2. He seems to want to be seen on the camera. Maybe not for police and the public but for Nancy to see him given that he does not know how this “scare” ends up.
3. He’s in the house for a long time based on the timeline given by police.
4. Blood on porch appears as if it was dripped (staged)
5. All of his “get up” appears to be newly purchased with the intention of looking scary. Weapon was placed where it was awkwardly so it was clearly visible. Not holstered on the hip which is more common.

Again, just my thoughts and MOO but things just do not add up at all.