AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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so the blue shirt that was at the driveway of the home was it ever picked up by le
It could have been left there by someone (LE, press, YouTuber, etc.) days later and was placed on the rock to make it more visible to whoever left it behind.
 
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Could it be intruder went there to get money from Nancy, supplies backpack to tie her hands and gag her. Was going to take her to an ATM and out of fear she says, “I don’t have money but my daughter does.”

This guy doesn’t seem all that bright, took a couple of days to learn about Bitcoin and to write a letter.

I feel some relief that her medicine and equipment was being looked for in the search last night.

Do you have a link for “her medicine and equipment was being looked for last night”?
 
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so the blue shirt that was at the driveway of the home was it ever picked up by le
That's what I'm concerned about. Is it still there? Where is it from? Who left it there, and when?
 
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Has something been stated that the internet was disabled?
All I have heard was that the pacemaker lost contact with the phone/watch. I haven't heard anything about the internet.
 
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How do you explain the Harvey Levin Interview about whats in the 'ransom letter'? He discusses items only the 'kidnapper' would know?

IMO, paid fluff distraction
 
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That's what I'm concerned about. Is it still there? Where is it from? Who left it there, and when?
Blu shirt? I missed that
 
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I don't think anyone has talked about the rope the criminal picks up ,in the video. Bends down on right side of entrance , can plainly see it's a rope.Or has that been mentioned ?
 
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If this were an inside job involving family, and the ransom is an unrelated opportunist, why take her off the property? Could take years to have someone declared dead and get inheritance if that’s motive. If the ransom is related why are they still holding out when the family said they would pay? Nothing makes sense… MOO
 
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Did anyone else notice that in the snapshots of the suspect, one of them he does not have the gun and backpack on him. Are there 2 separate people wearing the same clothing? Or is that a photo of him captured after committing the crime..? Walking back to the house after using the gun and items in the backpack, to remove the camera?
 

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The shrub pulling made me think “gardener/landscaper”.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

I have to disagree. Most gardeners would by habit pull from the bottom of the stem in order to get the root out.

The masked man simply pulls off a few leaves. He seems to struggle to bend down too. He certainly doesn’t do it regularly.
 
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Stretcher?

Cheap and easily available in shops.

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How would they get her away from her property on foot with a stretcher? They can't walk down the street without risking detection even in the middle of the night. I understand the lots are large and hers wouldn't have been captured on the ring cameras of neighbors, but they'd have been caught on some camera if they tried to move her any distance.

This would work if they were moving her into the yard, but how would they get her out of the area?
 
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It could have been left there by someone (LE, Press, YouTuber, etc.) days later and was placed on the rock to make it more visible to whoever left it behind.
Yeah, that used to happen when I lived in a condo complex: Gloves, jackets, etc would be left near the group mailboxes so people could see they had lost them.

I'd say it belongs to someone from the press.
 
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I mean imo it is more straightforward now that there is someone on video in a mask. And occam's razor would say someone who has some familiarity with the home and that an elderly well off lady lived alone. She had staff that took care of the home inside and outside the house, not to mention the recent roof work. All of those people could realistically be familiar enough if they wanted to commit a robbery or take her to the ATM or whatever else their purpose was. There is no leap in logic there - the path is pretty linear to me imo
BBM

But they didn't. Instead, they dress up in a ridiculous outfit, monkey with some lantana for ultimately no real reason, and then theoretically kidnap her and hold her for ransom, but don't even send the ransom note until quite a while later. And the ransom note that's sent is sent to two different news agencies days apart. Someone wanting to commit strong-arm robbery against an old lady is not going through this amount of trouble and effort, least of all ending it with insane ransom demands.

JMO
 
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What I've seen so far from LE and FBI doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Sorry, but the idea that they're playing 4D chess is kind of laughable.
This poor woman might never be found. We've seen enough cold cases here to know that the odds are slim at this point.
You can't search every home and backyard in this large area. She might also have been taken to Mexico. So frustrating and sad.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Taken to Mexico by who?
 
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I don't think anyone has talked about the rope the criminal picks up ,in the video. Bends down on right side of entrance , can plainly see it's a rope.Or has that been mentioned ?
In which video? Do you have a link? I am only aware of the two videos officially posted on the FBI site. I just re-watched both, and don't see a rope being picked up anywhere.
 
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There was discussion of bears and coyotes yesterday. Could the perps have left the house unlocked and these animals have gone in, and… eaten Nancy’s body? That might explain the blood by the door.
I don't think so. Animals leave a horrible mess behind and there would be.... bits all over. Clothes, bone, and blood smears. It would have been clear to LE almost right away that there was no need to search for her.
 
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