AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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The Police / FBI will always have more information and be further along then we know / think. If they have a 'definite' suspect, they won't say so until they've got an 'iron clad' case. This case has already demonstrated that with security photos / video.
Yes, agreed --this was made very clear in the Kohburger case as well.
 
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5 miles in 19 minutes, he'd have to be going what at least 100-200 mph.
To get 5 miles in 19 minutes, he’d need to travel about 15 miles an hour.
 
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Yea I agree his body language is a little off but I imagine he's in shock. Being detained, now you have a gaggle of reporters at your house, you're trying to defend yourself while also being confused about what's going on. He may be a little cagey but that doesn't mean he's guilty. IMO
Yes I usually tend to err on the side of benefit of doubt with people in these scenarios unless they do something super outlandish. Although I think I might react a certain way, I have no real idea how I'd react until I'm in the situation (& I hope to never find out)
 
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since Harvey confirmed the video of the suspect on the porch camera was at 2:12, was the “camera disconnecting” caused by cutting power to the house and deactivating internet? My parents house was burgled last year and they cut the power to the house prior to deactivate their alarm and the police said it happened often(this is in Vegas). That may explain why the perp is so nonchalant walking up to the camera, and then realized its battery operated and still recording.
 
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This was mentioned earlier in the thread (with a link), but one of the neighbors was talking to a news guy (sorry I cannot remember which one at this point, and said on camera that LE was asking to look at his home cameras for footage from midnight the night of the crime, which would be two+ hours earlier from when I think they believe someone was abducting Nancy.

Interview with Annie Guthrie’s neighbor. Investigators were checking his camera footage from January 31st around midnight.

 
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Has anyone here compared the single photo of suspect without the backpack and holster to the videos and still of them wearing both? The shoes look a bit different. It almost seems like there’s a black strip on the shoes of the suspect without the backpack that I don’t seem to notice on the suspect that actually walks up to the door.
That photo was altered by the FBI to give a clearer shot of the clothing
 
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Would you like a perspective, from a distance, from a well known UK criminologist?

This video on This Morning TV starts with a reporter from USA but second half goes to the criminologist.
Oh wow, the person has a tattoo on his wrist? Is this why the jacket cuffs appear not right/ taped up ...to hide tattooes?
 
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I keep thinking about Nancy's hearing aids (it is referred to as "hearing aid" in the mentions we've seen).

I brought this up last night and I keep coming back to it.

Most people wear two hearing aids, not one. I would be shocked if she was only prescribed one.

It occurred to me at some point, what if she grabbed one of them to try to identify a sound outside and stuck it in her ear.

There was one found (left behind?).

What if the other one was in her ear when she was abducted.

All this leads to the following - my app has a "FIND MY" feature. Note: I've removed all identifying information.

Before I tried this experiment I had my hearing aids OUT and hadn't opened the actual app for a few days. It still showed that the last place both hearing aids were known to be was inside this house on February 9. I think you can see where I'm going with this. It's an obscure/thought idea and it would depend on a lot of things, but if there is ONE hearing aid on her body, it might provide a clue to where she was at some point.


I'm editing to add what they look like when they are disconnected (not in my ears). The app still seems to know where they are. Of note: they are fully charged so I don't know what happens if one or both would be no longer charged.
 

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are we sure about the relative timings of the two bits of footage? no errors or misunderstandings like "this timestamp is just when it uploaded to the server", etc.?

With this particular investigation, we're sure of nothing.
Most of the information we thought we knew has already changed multiple times :rolleyes:
 
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Yes, agreed --this was made very clear in the Kohburger case as well.
Yeah, and LE said for quite some time that they didn't believe the community was in danger even before they identified and caught BK, so I really take anything that LE says with a grain of salt. They are following up on leads. They aren't going to give a play by play update or insight into their thinking. They shouldn't! Protect the integrity of the case. This case is nuts.
 
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I keep thinking about Nancy's hearing aids (it is referred to as "hearing aid" in the mentions we've seen).

I brought this up last night and I keep coming back to it.

Most people wear two hearing aids, not one. I would be shocked if she was only prescribed one.

It occurred to me at some point, what if she grabbed one of them to try to identify a sound outside and stuck it in her ear.

There was one found (left behind?).

What if the other one was in her ear when she was abducted.

All this leads to the following - my app has a "FIND MY" feature. Note: I've removed all identifying information.

Before I tried this experiment I had my hearing aids OUT and hadn't opened the actual app for a few days. It still showed that the last place both hearing aids were known to be was inside this house on February 9. I think you can see where I'm going with this. It's an obscure/thought idea and it would depend on a lot of things, but if there is ONE hearing aid on her body, it might provide a clue to where she was at some point.
Praying LE sees this. It could help locate her.
 
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Yes I think so. Here's a male one with facial hair and a lady one with lashes too.

I think the mask visible through the eye holes is clearly female and possibly with lashes attached to the mask eyelids.

I think the mask visible through the mouth hole is male and has facial hair.

Maybe they cut up and layered them.

That takes some planning.
This is incredibly disturbing as a possibility. I was going to ask how perp would be able to hold a bite light in his mouth with a mask like this, but if latex material, it would still be possible. Ugh.
 
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Oh wow, the person has a tattoo on his wrist? Is this why the jacket cuffs appear not right/ taped up ...to hide tattooes?
The jacket cuffs are elastic, not taped up.
 
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