Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[ctstarke1]

A person yesterday posted that both that mouth flashlight and the gloves are habitually used by mechanics.
(Not that this perp is a mechanic)

I think I may be the one who posted that thought. I mentioned it, because those two items are used together in mechanics. My thoughts were MAYBE Mrs. Guthrie had recently had her car serviced and that could be a possible lead for investigators. It would probably be easy for them to check service records.

 

[CandyKiss]

1.52 am and 5 miles from NG house is very interesting.

I don't believe in coincidences; that backpack looks identical to the perps on NG’s front porch. Notice the back of it when he’s flipping it around to the pic of perp’s backpack on NG’s porch – it’s just as taunt. There’s no reason anyone should be in an alleyway trying to get into another’s back yard. Why are they blocking the alleyway perps face?

MOO.......

 

[planet]

according to the FBI website, arrests for robbery and murder are over 80% male.

the odds of it being a woman are astronomically low. the build does not suggest woman at all, nor does the gait. not to mention the height, you can tell from the video he's tall. there was a great post a few pages back estimating the height to be between 5'10"-6' of course there are women who are that tall but the odds of it being a woman at all, let alone one over 5'10" are just... so extremely low.

i can't understand why so many people always speculate it's a woman in these types of crimes. i know this crime is already extremely unusual and weird, but it being committed by a woman on top of all that... i have a better chance of winning the lottery.

100%. Pelvis shape is male, which is evident from the gait, stiffness of lower body, and limited flexion of the hip joints. Distribution of muscle mass also indicates a male body.

 

[wibbleflea]

if it ends up being a woman, i'll give every person who's posted in this thread a million dollars.

We’re going to need to see bank statements. This place has rules.

You have got to be kidding me.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022007554742923398

Genuine Axon evidence.com domain name, weirdly.

 

[luc1fer12]

CP is very clearly lying about this as he's clearly in the driver's seat when they pull him over. Lying very, very well. I imagine he lied that his wife was driving because she's probably the DoorDasher, but if he's lying so easily about this what else is he lying about? Timestamp: 00:38.

Ha! Everything about that interview he gave is a lie.

Wife was driving. Got out because he saw unmarked police cars following them. Come on now

 

[PCHS]

I think I may be the one who posted that thought. I mentioned it, because those two items are used together in mechanics. My thoughts were MAYBE Mrs. Guthrie had recently had her car serviced and that could be a possible lead for investigators. It would probably be easy for them to check service records.

or potentially her or in the neighborhood the HVAC serviced. Recently the roof on one of the structures at her home was said to have bee repainted - a neighbor it was said had to call them to come back and look on the roof and the seemed to have found more cameras..there was some HVAC venting? etc all across it...Just a thought

 

[Puzzles8]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021973173294837890

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I have no doubt LE has more video than they are showing the public. Remember, they only released the four snippets as an attempt to identify the person at the door (clothing, backpack, facial features, etc) and generate tips. LE won't release any more video than they need to.
I am hopeful they have a lot more video.

JMO

 

[Rush4087]

If the NG front porch video really was 2:12 (which has not been confirmed), the guy in the 1:52-1:53 security cam video (reportedly recorded approx 5 miles away) just put out by TMZ sure looks like the guy to me. 19 minutes

Jmo

 

[SUNchips]

DBM wrong link

 

[whowy]

Completely agree.

It seems like they’ll need a confession or similar in hopes someone takes a deal before it goes to trial.

Even in that case, not sure it would stand up to an appeal.

What a nightmare.

Hopefully, their primary focus is locating Nancy - and the prosecution's needs are secondary

LE found a PAIR of black gloves—not together apparently.

Haven't been able to read all the comments due to pace of the thread, so apologies if this has already been commented. 1) If found glove(s) worn by perp, would expect to find NG's DNA on exterior & possibly perp's DNA on interior. 2) Evev if perp had 2 layers of gloves - it would be difficult to remove them from one hand while the other hand was still fully gloved. So, either another person assisted with glove removal, or double layer was removed as one. Moo

 

[PCHS]

I have no doubt LE has more video than they are showing the public. Remember, they only released the four snippets as an attempt to identify the person at the door (clothing, backpack, facial features, etc) and generate tips. LE won't release any more video than they need to.
I am hopeful they have a lot more video.

JMO

Oh I have to believe they do...the issue/concern to me was that it appears to have take multiple searches to find the cameras..

 

[cait2007]

Thanks. I wish those times could be confirmed then. It doesn’t make sense there would be three backpacks and two different jackets if it were the same person though.

Honestly, the guy with the two backpacks just looks high. I don’t think he has any association. JMO

 

[Magic8Ball]

You have got to be kidding me.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022007554742923398

What in the actual Barnum & Bailey.

A NEIGHBOR decided they'd appoint themselves the unofficial spokesperson for the PCSO and send out an alert?

Good Grief.

We have officially jumped the shark in this case.

JMO.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

I wonder if anyone reached back out to APS after the business card was left? And wouldn't LE work directly with APS in this case if there were concerns about NG's well-being prior to her going missing?
I'm thinking that any info regarding a possible case wouldn't be released to the public.
Just pondering. As I said, it's been weighing on me.
IMO.


IMO.

I think the card was left shortly after she was reported missing, and imo not left there prior.

 

[nightowl2728]

Here is Harvey Levin’s commentary regarding the new video of individual with similar backpack just before kidnapping.

It’s strange that this shows the glove being found on Campbell. That’s what I had assumed in the first place (closest main street to NG’s house) but the following says the glove was found on 1st Ave, a mile away from Campbell.

Maybe one glove was found in each place?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021994752770785742

From the original Twitter post about the Ring camera footage, there was a general area highlighted of where the Ring camera was, but it was not specific in order to protect privacy. Based on the streets in the area that you could make out, I think it was just West of the Mountain 1st Avenue neighborhood in Tucson and north of Sugar Hill neighborhood (you can look up the original Twitter post, I didn't quote it here sorry).
I don't have NG's exact home address but this is a Google maps screenshot of the area where the Ring camera footage is stated to be TO NG's house.
Interestingly, less than a 19 minute drive which is relevant if you read the TMZ article explaining timing (which I was originally confused on), and it goes along N Campbell Ave which is where they reportedly found the gloves. EDIT: The other glove was apparently found on 1st Ave, which directly borders Mountain 1st Avenue (hence the name) neighborhood.
Obviously none of this is conclusive or exact. Just my speculation, but if I were LE I would pinpoint the home from the Ring camera and get a search warrant/search the block tbh.

 

[ogold45]

The camera footage is from 5 miles away. So in 15 minutes he’d geared himself up and driven that distance? I don’t think so.

5 miles in 19 minutes, he'd have to be going what at least 100-200 mph.

 

[Chainspell]

You have got to be kidding me.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022007554742923398

I was wondering this before but thinking now the January 11th date is a typo by the neighbor that put this out, and they meant Jan 31st 9pm-midnight, and then 930-11am on the same date. JMO.

 

[arielilane]

Back at @WFLA after being on assignment.Live at 2:00pm ET:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022015470413787362

 

[Lebowski]

ohhh great thinking.

IF this is the same guy, this is happening before he'd get to nancy's house, we believe, right? maybe trying to find a place to stash it with plans to return to it after taking her so he wouldn't have to bring two big backpacks?

just speculating, IMO, etc.

are we sure about the relative timings of the two bits of footage? no errors or misunderstandings like "this timestamp is just when it uploaded to the server", etc.?

 

[nightowl2728]

miles in 19 minutes, he'd have to be going what at least 100-200 mph.

See my post just above re: timing. It would track