AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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If you look at Harvey Levins video right above talking about this — the timestamp for the perp at NG’s is 2:12. So that gives this person 19 minutes to drive 5 miles to NG’s house and suit up. Odd things going on with backpacks that hour - that’s for sure. Weird coincidence— but could be.
Thanks. I wish those times could be confirmed then. It doesn’t make sense there would be three backpacks and two different jackets if it were the same person though.
 
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I asked AI, and they might make a visit if someone was reported missing.
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I wonder if anyone reached back out to APS after the business card was left? And wouldn't LE work directly with APS in this case if there were concerns about NG's well-being prior to her going missing?
I'm thinking that any info regarding a possible case wouldn't be released to the public.
Just pondering. As I said, it's been weighing on me.
IMO.


IMO.
 
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I think a pp indicated there was an attempted burglary around that date in the neighborhood...I believe it was posted this AM I'd have to review alot of posts back though...
There is video on TMZ but I read it can’t be posted here. Maybe the mods can respond.
 
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…but how well planned was it? The guy is bumbling around the porch with not even the most basic plan for dealing with the doorbell camera. Even if you don’t know if she had a camera, you would at least be prepared in the event it was there. Just an inch long piece of tape would cover the lens. Or a clawfoot hammer would quickly unmount it. Instead he wastes time holding his fist in front of his face while he sees how tight the camera is mounted then looking around the porch and yard before deciding that a scraggly plant is the best thing to block it.

Tape has residue and is more likely to leave DNA (or trace DNA) than his gloves. It would also be virtually impossible to unroll and cut tape with those meat gloves on. A hammer is just another tool for him to have to stop, remove backpack, unzip, take out, zip backpack, put backpack back on, and risk dropping and/or leaving an identifier along the way. And I can't really see a perp wearing a pair of Lee Dungarees just so he can have have his trusty Estwig at the ready for inconveniences like this.

He didn't panic when he saw the camera, so even if it surprised him (probably just the activated 'snap' noise they make when you are close and they photograph you), it didn't startle him enough or divert him from his ultimate mission. I'm not even sure the flowers were an attempt to cover the lens since flowers left at a front door have all kinds of symbolic meanings, from affectionate to ghoulish. Maybe, for example, he saw the camera, smirked to himself, and then considered it another way to taunt anyone who would be viewing it later. Or as a way to verify it was him at the scene in the later ransom notes.

JMO.
 
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Have not thought of this! I’ve been trying to put my finger on his general demeanor approaching the entry. No hurry or anxiety. Reluctance seems to fit.

MOO
Based on my same sense of his demeanor, I’m actually wondering if he was somehow coerced into it. Coercion has such tremendous currency in our digital era.

MOO, of course.
 
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Who is Harvey and what’s the actual source for the timeline change? It’s been consistently stated there were two different cameras reporting events at 1:47 and at 2:12.
Harvey Levin of TMZ. See my post up thread.
 
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Something about this guy is off. His body language is too extra. Too exaggerated.
Agree. And while it’s possible, you mean to tell me he hadn’t heard about the abduction until he was in custody? Anything is possible, but I don’t buy it
 
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I asked AI, and they might make a visit if someone was reported missing.
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I just want to add something to this, this particular APS worker owns a PI agency and a former cop. Since I am not sure what the rules are regarding this, and I am not going to give the last name. With the card info, it is a simple google search of the name, and viewing her LinkedIn page. Not that her work background is important to why a card would be at the door, but she does seem to have extensive career and background in law enforcement. If this is not allowed, because I am not providing something of fact, then please remove, and I do apologize for breaking a rule.

All of the above is IN MY OPINION on what I found upon a search.
 
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A person yesterday posted that both that mouth flashlight and the gloves are habitually used by mechanics.
(Not that this perp is a mechanic)
I think I may be the one who posted that thought. I mentioned it, because those two items are used together in mechanics. My thoughts were MAYBE Mrs. Guthrie had recently had her car serviced and that could be a possible lead for investigators. It would probably be easy for them to check service records.
 
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1.52 am and 5 miles from NG house is very interesting.
I don't believe in coincidences; that backpack looks identical to the perps on NG’s front porch. Notice the back of it when he’s flipping it around to the pic of perp’s backpack on NG’s porch – it’s just as taunt. There’s no reason anyone should be in an alleyway trying to get into another’s back yard. Why are they blocking the alleyway perps face?

MOO.......
 
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according to the FBI website, arrests for robbery and murder are over 80% male.

the odds of it being a woman are astronomically low. the build does not suggest woman at all, nor does the gait. not to mention the height, you can tell from the video he's tall. there was a great post a few pages back estimating the height to be between 5'10"-6' of course there are women who are that tall but the odds of it being a woman at all, let alone one over 5'10" are just... so extremely low.

i can't understand why so many people always speculate it's a woman in these types of crimes. i know this crime is already extremely unusual and weird, but it being committed by a woman on top of all that... i have a better chance of winning the lottery.
100%. Pelvis shape is male, which is evident from the gait, stiffness of lower body, and limited flexion of the hip joints. Distribution of muscle mass also indicates a male body.
 
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CP is very clearly lying about this as he's clearly in the driver's seat when they pull him over. Lying very, very well. I imagine he lied that his wife was driving because she's probably the DoorDasher, but if he's lying so easily about this what else is he lying about? Timestamp: 00:38.

Ha! Everything about that interview he gave is a lie.

Wife was driving. Got out because he saw unmarked police cars following them. Come on now
 
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I think I may be the one who posted that thought. I mentioned it, because those two items are used together in mechanics. My thoughts were MAYBE Mrs. Guthrie had recently had her car serviced and that could be a possible lead for investigators. It would probably be easy for them to check service records.
or potentially her or in the neighborhood the HVAC serviced. Recently the roof on one of the structures at her home was said to have bee repainted - a neighbor it was said had to call them to come back and look on the roof and the seemed to have found more cameras..there was some HVAC venting? etc all across it...Just a thought
 
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If the NG front porch video really was 2:12 (which has not been confirmed), the guy in the 1:52-1:53 security cam video (reportedly recorded approx 5 miles away) just put out by TMZ sure looks like the guy to me. 19 minutes

Jmo
 
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DBM wrong link
 

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