AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Also think they should look into restaurants NG, and maybe even her and AG together, went to in past 2 months. Where one or both of them had complained a lot. If they were together and it was AG who threw a fit, then maybe someone wanted to punish her.
I get exploring possibilities, but that seems like a far reach. There’s nothing to suggest a restaurant complaint would connect to something this serious.
 
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Man with similar backpack is like man with similar Nike shoes. I can't believe TMZ put this out or it's getting any traction. 🙄
I know. Neither one is the ozark trail backpack and the jacket isn’t the same either…
 
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I get exploring possibilities, but that seems like a far reach. There’s nothing to suggest a restaurant complaint would connect to something this serious.
Yes I mean that is looking basically to find a reason this is AG - it likely imo isn't and some details re: the purpose intent and where she is will hopefully be filled in soon moo
 
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Always Walmart!
WalMart should have a section "Crime", like "Housewares" or "Automotive". One aisle could be items needed for committing crimes (ski masks, holsters, gloves, duct tape, shovels, etc) , the other aisle could be for cleaning up from crimes (bleach, paper towels, etc).
just kidding of course!!!
 
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Outdoor electrical panels? That’s wild! And an easy way to get someone out of bed and outside. AC shutting off would wake me up.
If she wore hearing aides and did not have them in at night, perhaps she would not hear the AC shutting off. My mom wears them (not at night) and no way would she hear the AC was not running. I tease her that a marching band could come through and she'd be oblivious.
 
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AC runs in AZ even in the winter?
I wouldn't wake up if heat/AC shut off until I got too cold or too hot.
I wouldn't notice for a bit if the AC/Heat was off but I'd notice very quickly if the fan turned off LOL
 
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I’ve noticed the Daily mail gets US news faster than we do!
I wouldn't put much stock in it. From whaat I just read on Google, The Daily Mail is not a reputable news source and is more of a tabloid
 
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I'm still in shock that someone could get away with this for this long. Poor Nancy. đź’”


Video of the route from AG to NG's house. There are a lot of businesses on the way to NG's house. It gets more secluded the closer you get to her house, but still, I'm sure the perpetrator turned off of that main road. How many cars are out from 2-3am? His vehicle must've been caught somewhere, at some point.

I just hope they know more than they're letting on and that maybe one of the tips they got will lead to him.
 
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WalMart should have a section "Crime", like "Housewares" or "Automotive". One aisle could be items needed for committing crimes (ski masks, holsters, gloves, duct tape, shovels, etc) , the other aisle could be for cleaning up from crimes (bleach, paper towels, etc).
just kidding of course!!!
And an indoor cafe named "Alibi"!
 
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I don't think any ransom notes should be taken seriously at this point. It will be almost two weeks now. The chances that she is still alive at this point is very slim.
 
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WalMart should have a section "Crime", like "Housewares" or "Automotive". One aisle could be items needed for committing crimes (ski masks, holsters, gloves, duct tape, shovels, etc) , the other aisle could be for cleaning up from crimes (bleach, paper towels, etc).
just kidding of course!!!
LOL. Non-stop surveillance of aisle 6
 
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I don't think necessarily, though I think it depends on why you think they used the flowers to begin with.

I think they used them as a "grip" to help remove the camera. Before pulling them up, it looks like they looked around the porch for something else to use. Failing to find anything, the plant became the best option.

If you think they used the flowers to somehow disguise themselves, then maybe? I don't think this is the most likely reason, though, since they were able to mostly shield their face from the camera using their left hand prior to removing it. 🤷‍♀️
I agree the most likely usage of the flowers was to get a better grip for removing the camera, when it seemed the glove might tear from the first attempt, or the glove was slipping on it in the first attempt. We see the first attempt, glove-only.

IMO, etc.
 
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AC runs in AZ even in the winter?
I wouldn't wake up if heat/AC shut off until I got too cold or too hot.
We sure run ours here in Texas. That and the fan shutting off is automatic wake up.
 
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For the letters that did not have any way to contact whoever sent them, I get why SG and her family made public pleas to ask for proof of life and to please get in touch with them.

Other than that, I think the media talking about them is creating major risk issues. Monitoring the account and reporting live if there is activity in it is a risk. Especially if it was first a smaller amount to test whether it worked or if LE can get anything from it. They bring every expert on to their news shows who cheerfully and loudly proclaim, "Oh yea, it definitely can be traceable." Sir. LE is trying to CATCH an active kidnapper with a still missing victim. If it is in fact traceable, maybe keep that to yourself and let the adductor try to move money so LE can... catch them.

If a kidnapper thinks their pay day isn't going to work out (and I have no idea how legit these letters even are), then you run the risk that they drop the plan, cause harm, and peace out over the border. This real time reporting is awful.

Also, there is no need to report on whether the family paid a ransom or not or if there is activity in the account. Pretty sure the abductor will see there is money and try to get a pay day. There is real risk involved in advertising how much a ransom was and if it was paid because it rewards horrific crime and may encourage other criminals that this is a good business. If the family opts to pay, great, I completely get it, but details do not need to be confirmed or advertised.

If Nancy is found and LATER someone wants to do a story and talk about what the ransom notes said or more details, okay, but I don't think any media people should be compromising an investigation. Also LE seems like such a mess with no clear line of who is in charge, I don't even trust the media people are being advised on how much they can actually say or not. Harvey wouldn't report the amount that the "activity" in the wallet showed, but yet a local news station did. There is absolutely no game plan.
IMO if it comes to them, they are reporting it. That's what they do
 
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AC runs in AZ even in the winter?
I wouldn't wake up if heat/AC shut off until I got too cold or too hot.
absolutely. I've had to turn it on in february. It can get hot inside some homes,
 
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lsI wouldn't put much stock in it. From whaat I just read on Google, The Daily Mail is not a reputable news source and is more of a tabloid
Here in the UK The Daily Mail is also known as the Daily Fail!
 
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Video of the route from AG to NG's house. There are a lot of businesses on the way to NG's house. It gets more secluded the closer you get to her house, but still, I'm sure the perpetrator turned off of that main road. How many cars are out from 2-3am? His vehicle must've been caught somewhere, at some point.
Thanks, that was interesting to see. Very few lit roads. Not good for this case.
 

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