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If the locals are blocking the FBI they have truly lost the plot! @#$&!
 
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That's what I thought. He was comfortable with the bite light. He had used it before and chose it over a head light or flash light. So what professions or hobbies use this light? Yes something at night, or inside dark recesses. Not outdoor day light workers. Electricians, plumbers, etc.
Mechanics. I believe they also wear similar gloves to the ones he was wearing.
 
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I’d like to know more about this before jumping to conclusions. According to the Reuters article, the county already spent a bunch of money doing DNA tests through this lab. This implies the lab already has comparative samples and reference samples, and it’s unclear if FBI has any of this. It may simply be far more expedient to use the contract lab at this point. Lot of pot-stirring going on lately.

JMO
 
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SIL is very tall based on the family holiday pic. Way taller than 5’9”. Who is DE?
Nah, SIL is in pictures with NG and AG, in both he is only a little taller maybe 2-3inches and we know from LE that Nancy is 5'5
 
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So I just did a google explore search. I did custom dates from 1/1/25 until 1/30/26. The only time her home was searched for was on January 18th, and it was searched 29 times. I am hoping that they were able to find out from where and maybe that is pushing the dates.
Oh that’s interesting and pretty significant. I wonder if SG by chance mentioned her mom or anything on the show that day that ticked someone off. What other events happened that day that could have triggered 29 searches for her home. I’m sure LE has checked into that but it’s worth submitting it as a tip.
 
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A lot being said about the possible 'bite light' in lantana mans mouth and so I wanted to post up a run down of the most likely people to have such a light handy.

Common user profiles include:
Pilots (especially general aviation and night flyers) — They use models like the Flight Gear Bite Light with white light for pre/post-flight checks and red light to preserve night vision in the cockpit.

Theater technicians, lighting crew, stagehands, and wardrobe personnel — In tech theater and backstage work, bite lights (often called "bitelites") are popular for climbing ladders, focusing lights, quick changes in dark wings, or when carrying gear.
Mechanics, auto technicians, or anyone working under vehicles/dashboards — Hands are occupied with tools, so mouth-held light helps see tight spaces.

Performers or quick-change artists (sometimes in drag, costume, or low-light creative work) — Soft, teeth-friendly versions exist for hands-free illumination during fast changes or detailed work.

Jewellers and Crafting Hobbyists — Anyone who works regularly with crafts that require both hands to be free during intricate work.

DIYers, electricians, plumbers, or home repair folks — Anyone who's ever held a regular flashlight in their mouth under a sink or in an attic ends up appreciating a purpose-built bite version.

Outdoor/night workers — Like some night fishing setups (though "bite light" there more often means bite indicators/alarms), or cavers/explorers who prefer mouth-held options over headlamps in tight spots.
Jewelers and musicians you say?
 
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That's what I thought. He was comfortable with the bite light. He had used it before and chose it over a head light or flash light. So what professions or hobbies use this light? Yes something at night, or inside dark recesses. Not outdoor day light workers. Electricians, plumbers, etc.
I have been posting about this however technicians/laborers who go into small spaces and need hands free - like HVAC techs. She just had the roof (repainted?) and it appeared to have a lot of piping etc on it...this was reported earlier in the thread and was the roof the FBI was on that we watched from the drone (when they removed another camera?)
 
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Sheriff seeks fame before retirement 😁😁😁
 
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So the current description is a male suspect approximately 5'9" - 5"10" tall, with an average build.

But what kind of male suspect are they looking for?

Are they looking for a white male? A black male? A hispanic male? A middle eastern male? A oriental male?

What kind of a male suspect does the public needs to be on the lookout for?
"Large boulder size of a small boulder" comes to mind.
 
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i know in the BK case the fbi used othram over their own lab, no? so not sure that's a crazy big deal but what do i know.
Othram was used for IGG because the FBI crime lab doesn't do that particular lab work. Once that was done, the FBI finished the genealogy work, using investigators who specialize in that sort of thing.
 
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i know in the BK case the fbi used othram over their own lab, no? so not sure that's a crazy big deal but what do i know.
Personally I think the biggest deal is that obviously there is friction between local and federal and by this being out there it’s obvious that the local sheriff is holding things up and frustrating the smartest ppl in the room. jmo

Maybe i wasn’t far off when i suggested the tape measure 🤷‍♂️
 
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Why would the sheriff do that?
Possible kickbacks from the lab? Sheriff Nanos was investigated by the FBI back in 2016 for misuse of over $200,000 in seized funds.



 
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I got this and I got the same for 2025. Maybe I'm not doing right. I also searched her name. There is also someone with her name in AZ who is somewhat well-known. I found searches for the other NG in AZ.




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Yes I've been aware of the other woman with the same name, and have considered whether there's a mistaken identity here. She is well known.
 
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thank you for the response but i'm not referring to reward money...i'm talking about all of these 'tmz' letters, bitcoin asks, etc...SG pleading to the 'kidnappers' that the family is willing to 'pay'. has nothing to do with LE.

why hasn't the guthrie family chucked some money at...anything? i know the answer but i'm asking...if it was your loved one and you were worth millions, wouldn't you throw a few into an account, however fake, to see what transpired?

everything covered here in over 2,000 pages (and on the news) says that once money starts moving, bitcoin etc. gets easier to track. so why not do anything and everything to 'move mountains' to find your loved one?
Hypothetically, if one was actually contemplating paying a $6m ransom for return of kidnapped person (had it been deemed credible enough/proof of life), then one might now see what a public $1m reward for location of and return of kidnapped person might do.

(NOT an equivalency, but as an example, a singer offered a $500k reward for return of stolen pets, and that did lead to someone returning them for reward. So sometimes an incredibly large “life changing” reward amount might get a different response than a $50k reward. (Enough for someone to be willing to betray a friend, or to risk retaliation from the criminal, for example)

But I certainly don’t want to motivate more kidnappings, and there likely many other considerations.
 
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