AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Izzylizzy]

@ 16:54 Brian Entin interviews former Undersheriff Rick Hasagar, 40 + yrs in Pima County LE and it echos off of what's taking place now between Nanos and the FBI,
RH goes on to say some not very nice things about Sheriff Nanos and obviously has no problem public ally criticizing him.
Yet paying close attention to Sheriff Nano's words and actions throughout this investigation this is not at all surprising to hear from someone who knew him well.
imo

 

[flowershop]

I guess that's why they were checking septic and water tanks. So where could she be hidden? Isn't it more likely to be relatively far away? (10-30 miles)

I think septic tanks and water tanks were checked to see if the perpetrators flushed anything indicative of a crime. I am unable to find a WS approved source to back that up. JMO

 

[TechGirl]

Isn't the pacemaker attached to the heart? That would mean someone in her family surgically removed it. That's cold.

Not possible. From Mayo Clinic regarding pacemaker removal.

“It is performed in a hybrid operating room using laser or mechanical sheaths to cut through scar tissue.
Key Aspects of the Procedure

• Method: A cardiac electrophysiologist opens the original chest incision, detaches the generator, and uses specialized tools—often laser sheaths—to safely remove wires from the heart muscle and blood vessels.
• Expertise: The procedure requires a multidisciplinary team, including cardiothoracic surgeons, available to manage potential risks like heart perforation.
• Safety Measures: For complex or long-term implants (e.g., >10 years), procedures are done under general anesthesia in a hybrid OR with advanced imaging (fluoroscopy) and, if necessary, sternotomy capabilities.”

 

[unresolvedmystery]

So, her belongings being found in the house -- her pacemaker disconnecting, apparently from there -- the opening and closing of her garage door -- and most conclusively, her blood appearing on the front steps only after a masked man disabled the doorbell camera in the wee hours of the morning -- isn't evidence enough?

I mean, it's possible to suspect SIL even if you think she did get home from their house. But I think Occam's razor would say that she did get home. Your mileage may vary.

JMO

Her pacemaker disconnected from the other devices, we were never told where those devices were when the disconnect actually happened.


The opening and closing garage door literally proves that something else was going on other then dropping her home and suggests someone didnt want to approach the front door camera at that time as it might be seen that she wasn't with them.

And her blood is minimal and in a trail of droplets almost like someone planted it. Until we learn more about the inside of the property as well as the cell data of everyone involved I'm shocked anyone would just accept she was dropped home as claimed.

 

[Sessiebo]

Is there anything more known about that guy checking car doors on 2 feb about 6.9 miles from Nancy's house that was caught on the ring cam?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021950484479926657

Man seen checking car door handle near Nancy Guthrie's home | Fox News Video

A man with a black backpack was spotted on video checking the door handle on a car near Nancy Guthrie's home purportedly the night after she vanished. (Ring)

www.foxnews.com

 

[Curiousobserver]

That seems to be the implication, and I really hope it’s true.

We have to take all reporting with a grain of salt though, as these are law enforcement sources and not direct from law enforcement.

Something could be lost in translation.

Every news organization is competing for clicks right now. It pays to be patient and wait for the story to fully come out.

 

[RayVon]

The jurisdictional pissing contests between federal and local agents seem to go hand in hand with the cases that take ages to resolve.

Competition between jurisdictions is not fair to the families.

 

[stmichael]

Sheriff appears to be a territorial individual that does not play well with others. IMO

If you listen to the interviews of former detectives from that department they have alluded to his political initiatives in the dept. and the leaving of many seasoned detectives because of it. He is an elected official and more of a political figure head in that aspect. He's had past controversy as well.

In the final stages of the 2024 election, Nanos faced severe criticism, including from some fellow Democrats, for placing his political opponent (who was also a department employee) on administrative leave. This action led to calls for his resignation and an investigation by the Pima County Board of Supervisors.

Supervisors vote to request investigation of Sheriff Nanos over election controversy - AZ Luminaria

The Pima County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously Tuesday to request an independent investigation into whether Sheriff Chris Nanos committed criminal wrongdoing when he placed his political opponent and sheriff’s department employee on leave ahead of the election. “I was hoping [Nanos]...

azluminaria.org

 

[white rabbit]

Well, if they ever do come up with a suspect I hope the glove fits.

pffff. omg. please tell me a white bronco isn't involved in this.

fox news just reported that a glove was located in NG's home. what the what? is it a pair to the glove found in the cacti field two miles away? would it "give away" the investigation if LE, begging for the public's help, gave us some idea as to what help they are looking for? "we found a pair of gloves, one in NG's living room and one two miles away amidst brush, that could possibly be those gloves found on the video posted two days ago". how would that "hinder" the investigation?

@ iluvmyelement and thefragile, thank you for your insights. i live in a major metropolitan area and can say there are keystone cops everywhere but your experiences are haunting as well as informative. thanks again.

 

[Skully7100]

I live in the Tucson area and have personal experience with Nanos and his staff. Between the PCSD deputies harassing people in poor areas, not responding to urgent calls, etc. I am not surprised that things are going this way. One day, my spouse and I were driving home and encountered an elderly man (75-80ish) and his dog being gruesomely attacked by two pitbulls. By the time we arrived, the man and his dog were on the ground, the man's clothing partially torn off and blood was everywhere. My husband jumped out of the car and tried to help while I called 911. Needless to say, Pima County Sheriffs office "declined" the call and said they would not come for a dog attack and then transferred me to the fire department - which also declined the call. I begged for anyone to come or to send an ambulance - but they refused. A second incident happened when a neighbor's home was being broken into and we called PCSD and they also refused to come unless someone was home at the neighbor's and injured. After those two incidents, I realized they were not there to help average citizens and had their own agenda.

I listen to my local scanner. Every call is responded to, no matter what the call is. Sometimes just the law, sometimes both law and emergency medical. Every time.

 

[thefragile7393]

I'm thinking it will not be long before the sheriff is contacted by President Donald Trump.

IMO I don't think this will happen

 

[MassGuy]

Thanks for posting this, @MassGuy... It is staggering. Do you think the Sheriff will have to step down, or be removed from the case?

I don't see him going anywhere. It's just not a good look, at all. We also don't know the full story here, as this is completely one sided.

Looking into this lab though, they are really good.

DNA Labs International (DLI), located in Deerfield Beach, Florida.

They have advanced techniques when it comes to touch DNA, and also do IGG analysis.

 

[steff13]

Not possible. From Mayo Clinic regarding pacemaker removal.

“It is performed in a hybrid operating room using laser or mechanical sheaths to cut through scar tissue.
Key Aspects of the Procedure

• Method: A cardiac electrophysiologist opens the original chest incision, detaches the generator, and uses specialized tools—often laser sheaths—to safely remove wires from the heart muscle and blood vessels.
• Expertise: The procedure requires a multidisciplinary team, including cardiothoracic surgeons, available to manage potential risks like heart perforation.
• Safety Measures: For complex or long-term implants (e.g., >10 years), procedures are done under general anesthesia in a hybrid OR with advanced imaging (fluoroscopy) and, if necessary, sternotomy capabilities.”

But presumably that would be for someone who is trying to remove the pacemaker while not killing the person they're moving it from, correct? I would think if you didn't care what happened to the person you were moving it from the actual procedure of removing it wouldn't be all that onerous.

 

[ssarahbg]

Hi there! I have seen it suggested several times that the blood droplets were staged. I was just wondering if you had any ideas how they would go about staging blood droplets with Nancy's DNA in them. Especially if they only meant to scare her. I'm also having a hard time settling on ideas for who would want to scare her.

Even if I was just trying to scare an 84 year old lady, it seems like a very bad idea to make her bleed. And if something went so wrong that she died, I definitely wouldn't take her dead body with me. Someone is going to realize she's missing. No getting around that. Have an accident, get pulled over and it's hello prison.

I think they probably dropped it with something. The other thought, which I don’t like, is that it was drops from a body transport. I just don’t know because it’s hard to believe blood wouldn’t be found in other areas of the home but we may just not know if there is blood elsewhere.

 

[SaraSmile]

Wow another one. They should take this seriously. It is funny to me that out of all the random emails, this one feels the most important. What do they have to lose at this point?

The ransom note person from yesterday and today, was an over a week late. He says he knows who did it, needs bitcoin for protection (to lay low). Not worth responding. IMO
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Just my impression from that story.

 

[Jessthinkin]

I agree. I think someone may have driven their car there and opened the garage to bring her home at 10 pm ish. Someone else was sent to make it look like a kidnapping. And, if they took her home, why did she Uber there? I wouldn't let my 84-year-old mother Uber to my house, 5 miles away. Just saying. Couldn't they come and pick her up for dinner, etc., that night?

Maybe they had her Uber there so they had a reason to bring her home? I'd be curious if taking Uber over to Annie's house was her custom...

 

[Chili Fries]

Pima County contracts with DNA Labs International in Deerfield Beach, FL. It’s contract #SC2400001565 and expires on March 27, 2026.

https://content.civicplus.com/api/assets/891026be-d8ec-43e3-bdf2-f4671234de92

Not defending the Pima County sheriff if it were truly a case of him turning his nose up at the FBI but DNA Labs International, the private lab in Florida, states on its website that it's accredited under both ISO17025, which is the gold standard for testing labs, and the FBI's quality assurance standards so any tests done there would be up to the FBI's standards.

 

[JoeFromLB]

With all the talk of rewards and this new revelation about a person who may have information but allegedly wants to be paid beforehand, my question is, why hasn't a very large reward been posted?
SG has a reported net worth of $40 million and is paid $8 million a year by NBC. Wouldn't an announced reward of, let's say, $250,000 bring much better results if someone really knows something??

 

[VioletBoxcar]

Her pacemaker disconnected from the other devices, we were never told where those devices were when the disconnect actually happened.

The opening and closing garage door literally proves that something else was going on other then dropping her home and suggests someone didnt want to approach the front door camera at that time as it might be seen that she wasn't with them.

And her blood is minimal and in a trail of droplets almost like someone planted it. Until we learn more about the inside of the property as well as the cell data of everyone involved I'm shocked anyone would just accept she was dropped home as claimed.

How does opening and closing the garage *literally* prove something else was going on? I rarely use the front door and go through the garage. I know other people who do that, too.

 

[HerNameWasBuffy]

Not necessarily if one of the children is her POA...

POA doesn't mean they aren't accountable. In this hypothetical if she named only her criminal child in her revokable trust they could get away with it unless one of the others sued.

But if she has all three of them on the trust, as is likely, they would a full accounting regardless of POA.

JMO