• #25,521
I don't see him going anywhere. It's just not a good look, at all. We also don't know the full story here, as this is completely one sided.

Looking into this lab though, they are really good.

DNA Labs International (DLI), located in Deerfield Beach, Florida.

They have advanced techniques when it comes to touch DNA, and also do IGG analysis.
Wouldn’t the glove have been found on the first day if it was inside NG’s home. Curious about the delay to test if info is true.
 
  • #25,522
So the Sheriff gets to make these decisions? If it happened prior to the FBI’s involvement, or there is other evidence already at the FL lab that might be comparative, an argument might be made for using it. I need more information. I would think that the FBI and this case where the director personally showed up would have been able to put this at the top of the pile. If a decision was made with both agencies on board, okay. If this is a pi**ing contest between the FBI and the local Sheriff, that stinks.
 
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@ 16:54 Brian Entin interviews former Undersheriff Rick Hasagar, 40 + yrs in Pima County LE and it echos off of what's taking place now between Nanos and the FBI,
RH goes on to say some not very nice things about Sheriff Nanos and obviously has no problem public ally criticizing him.
Yet paying close attention to Sheriff Nano's words and actions throughout this investigation this is not at all surprising to hear from someone who knew him well.
imo


I mentioned Mr Hasagar a few pages ago (although not by name I used 40+ service and fact he was 2IC to sheriff) - he was on STS talking similarly, sounds REALLY bad there IMO. Another ex-LE Kurt has been equally outspoken. I believe them. The 'glove' example will be a small portion of issues that will be come out, IMO. Nanos won't recover from this, again MOO.

Still, he'll have plenty of time to enjoy Ball games... every cloud
 
  • #25,524
I was wondering about that. The AB leak about the SIL being ‘a likely prime suspect’ came to mind. AB said she’d known the ‘impeccable’ source for a decade and the person was a high-level LE official.
She was very sure, at that time.

I wonder if AB believed the high level LE, and the LE person believed they were accurate. At the time, I thought it could mean someone SIL knows.

It seems it’s been a while since AB has brought that theory up. Maybe she was asked to let investigation run its course.

At this point, it seems LE would know if family was involved. So I really don’t think it’s SIL.

JMO
 
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What is interesting is they have raised the reward to $100,000. Significantly more than the 1 Bitcoin the most recent ransom request asks for. If they really had info, you would think they would take the $100k instead.
Money talks. They need a break and a lower criminal or associate might snitch for that. I was always surprised they didn't up the reward (SG could help through back channels though I understand w/ a supposed ransom she couldn't offer a reward herself risking the optics of that).

The 1 Bitcoin request for info was more in line with the $50K reward they had initially, but the letter was suspect in that you have to provide the info to get the reward (duh). The language of being a "national snitch" etc. does jive with a lower criminal element or one that associates in those circle.s
 
  • #25,526
What purpose would there be in removing her pacemaker? Pacemakers cannot be tracked!!!
Agree. I commented on this previously. Pacemakers don’t function as tracking devices. So, unless the perpetrators weren’t aware of this fact, there would be no reason to surgically NG’s pacemaker for that purpose.
 
  • #25,527
I can guarantee that AG/SIL did NOT open her up and pull out her pacemaker - not a thought even worth pursuing. jmo
I'm not the one who thinks that happened. lol
 
  • #25,528
If the glove inside the house is from the perpetrator, it seems like something they would know they’d left behind and risk going back for. Then again, I always thought that about Kohberger and the knife sheath too so….
Moo
 
  • #25,529
Huge optics move denying the FBI from moving the evidence to Quantico. Agencies, especially the Feds hate this type of stuff which is why you have sources putting this on blast.

Especially from a controversial elected Sheriff who has admitted to misteps of the case in his own press conferences and has been getting a lot of heat. The feds will not take that stance well, considering he's being called the keystone cops in the media.
What does it matter if both labs are just as good? Why is the FBI leaking to the news their grievances unless they too are lost and want to finger-point. Look personally? I think both teams have made some mistakes from what I can see...and there have been well publicized issues with the FBI as well recently. Maybe instead of finger-pointing they could have concentrated on doing a top to bottom thorough search on the residence and property when they arrived instead of also it seems missing things that should not have been overlooked (like the roof search and the removal of the other camera) or taking 2 weeks to get google to give them the footage they had. My POV is Local LE and the FIB are both wrong and have made mistakes and need to just concentrate on solving this or calling in some agents who can get somewhere, instead of making a case to the press for a failure. JMO
 
  • #25,530
But presumably that would be for someone who is trying to remove the pacemaker while not killing the person they're moving it from, correct? I would think if you didn't care what happened to the person you were moving it from the actual procedure of removing it wouldn't be all that onerous.
Why is this even a point of discussion? There is absolutely no reason to suspect anything close to this happened. I think it’s more likely that a javelina kidnapped her than someone randomly excising a pacemaker for unknown reasons.

JMO
 
  • #25,531
The Pima county sheriff has primary jurisdiction in this case.

Why would the Pima county sheriff not want to cooperate with FBI? I hope that he would welcome all and share all information with valid law enforcement agencies. Is he now hiding something? JMO
 
  • #25,532
Sorry if this has already been posted - but I just scrolled down further in the "Google Trends" results and saw it also shows what country the January 21st "Nancy Guthrie house" Google search(es) came from. See screenshot attached

Source:
By the way, from what I've read, the "100" on the chart doesn't represent the number of actual searches that day. It just means that within my chosen date parameters (January 1 to January 30), 100% of the searches for "Nancy Guthrie house" fell on that single day (January 21). Edited to add: the country is probably not too useful though, because of VPNs (IMO / MOO)
To you all doing this Google Search research, I hope you're submitting your findings and methods to the FBI.... :cool:
 
  • #25,533
I just hope wherever the evidence went, we get helpful results and soon!
 
  • #25,534
Have you seen the tourists at NG's home in front of the flowers and cameras ..... eewww.. just such a 'ick' factor. 🤮What is wrong with this society!😡
AI?
 
  • #25,535
Wouldn’t the glove have been found on the first day if it was inside NG’s home. Curious about the delay to test if info is true.
It could have been sent to a state crime lab, and then it was forwarded on to Florida for some reason.

But logically, they still should have had results a while ago.

Very vague and confusing stuff.
 
  • #25,536
So I just did a google explore search. I did custom dates from 1/1/25 until 1/30/26. The only time her home was searched for was on January 18th, and it was searched 29 times. I am hoping that they were able to find out from where and maybe that is pushing the dates.

Submit that tip! They can narrow that down easily!!!
 
  • #25,537
Why is this even a point of discussion? There is absolutely no reason to suspect anything close to this happened. I think it’s more likely that a javelina kidnapped her than someone randomly excising a pacemaker for unknown reasons.

JMO
I thought the person who originally posted about this was a troll. Surprised so many are discussing it.
 
  • #25,538
About the only thing we know for sure in this case is that Brian Entin needs to use more SPF30.
 
  • #25,539
I’m glad the backpack has been identified, but I feel like the holster and its placement are far more important. I have never seen a holster or anyone carry a gun like that before.
 
  • #25,540
So the Sheriff gets to make these decisions? If it happened prior to the FBI’s involvement, or there is other evidence already at the FL lab that might be comparative, am argument might be made for using it. I need more information. I would think that the FBI and this case where the director personally showed up would have been able to put this at the top of the pile. If a decision was made with both agencies on board, okay. If this is a pi**ing contest between the FBI and the local Sheriff, that stinks.

Multi agencies involved in a high profile case get into p****ng contests all the time. However, given his ineptitude Nanos should stand aside, and the FBI probably expected him to do so. Step up or step aside. Now they are fed up and putting him on blast.

But you got to understand Nanos is a guy who once put his political opponent in an election on administrative leave cause he dared to run against him (and that prompted an investigation and calls for him to resign). Elected Sheriffs are more like egotistical mayors than beat cops.
 
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