AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[grumpybear55]

Intellectually interesting because none of it makes sense. She had such a low risk lifestyle it's madness what happened to her, people want the solution to what seems like an impossible to solve puzzle.

A lot of times with crime we make ourselves feel better by thinking it couldn't happen to us because we'd never do X, or go to Y, or marry Z like the victim did. NG reminds us you can do everything right and evil can still find you.

Emotionally, it's hard not to picture your mom or grandma in her position. It's scary enough when those we love are older and struggling with the normal downsides of advanced age but something like this just takes the turn to nightmare fuel. I think this is touching the heart of a lot of people.

I bet a lot of people are having talks with their elderly parents about security and making sure their camera subscriptions don't lapse.

Well said, thank you for sharing that perspective. After all we are all human and this definitely brings out raw emotion in my opinion

 

[BellaToothless]

But why carry her out? Most criminals just kill and run out leaving the body. Why take the extra time risking getting caught to remove a body? Then do what? Drive down the road with it?

Depends on the motive. Kidnapping for ransom or kidnapping to hide planned murder. Did not see any discussion that it was a burglary.

 

[Wsimm]

I’m thinking this situation with all the media involved, LE almost has to use SWAT. Any suspect in Tuscan let alone anywhere in the country would know there is LE movement….. coming!

 

[Fargo]

Under what circumstances are we allowed to live post scanner info?

Only in the basement. Not on this thread.

 

[birdbox]

Now that LE has recovered footage from NG nest cam, they are asking neighbors to look through their security cameras from several weeks back. Maybe because LE has more video they haven’t released of mask guy from a previous visit.

Why would mask guy show up to NG house more than once? Well maybe the last time(s) didn’t work out for what they intended.

The gun really stands out to me. It looks ridiculous. It’s right there in front like they want to terrify NG and make sure she sees it.

It sounds like home invasion robberies are basically nonexistent in NG neighborhood.

So why would someone show up more than once, with an obvious weapon, and not intending to rob NG? Well maybe they only meant to frighten her. Maybe this whole thing started out to cause anxiety and fear but NG fell, or had a cardiac event and passed. Mask guy panics. No harm was supposed to come to NG! He hauls her body out of there and dumps it.

Ok, so who might want to frighten NG like this? To what end? Maybe to scare her out of living alone in that big house. Maybe she was needing a lot of help and local family was tired of it, maybe they wanted her to sell the house because they need money.

LE keeps circling back to a certain family members home which, to me, says they are suspicious of something. Maybe neither one is mask guy, but they paid a 3rd person. LE is trying to figure out who that 3rd person is because that’s the weakest link to this whole situation.

Those 2 won’t talk, and putting pressure will only make them lawyer up. The digital trail doesn’t have any slam dunks. NG could be anywhere. Therefore, they really need to figure out who that 3rd party is.

This is a little disjointed but I’m talking through my thoughts. All MOO.

Some

I’ve thought that all along! My impression from the video released is that the suspect at the front door first intention was to give a knock at the metal gate (alerting another suspect already inside), but the Nest camera distracted him…he expected the camera to be off. IMO

I am really with a 2-3 person theory involved. 1 person knows her well and other 1 (or 2) know the guy who knows her well. My theory and im not implicating anyone.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Maybe a dumb question, but if we assume that BE's reporting is accurate and SWAT/LE is staging right now, and that such staging is related to this investigation, why would it be taking so long? Or is this a normal amount of time?

Usually they have emergency judges on call to issue warrants so I'm a bit surprised by the wait if it is warrant-related. MO

 

[justwannahelp]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022341997772607739

TMZ posts another video, again the face is blurred out, but you can still see they have a mustache like the person who abducted Nancy. Who knows if it's the same guy, but it's a lead nonetheless.

Why is the face blurred out???

 

[Former Reporter]

Probably not a ton of judges within earshot on a late Friday afternoon. If it's a federal judge it may take even longer to facilitate.

JMO.

At least one judge is on call for emergency warrants 24/7 - daughter of a retired Superior Court judge here.

 

[SRWCF]

Probably not a ton of judges within earshot on a late Friday afternoon. If it's a federal judge it may take even longer to facilitate.

JMO.

With the importance of this case (abduction), I'm guessing there won't be much of a delay from the courts. LE likely has a judge on speed dial.

 

[penguinface]

But why carry her out? Most criminals just kill and run out leaving the body. Why take the extra time risking getting caught to remove a body? Then do what? Drive down the road with it?

Kidnappings for ransom don’t tend to work as well when you don’t have a kidnap victim! ;P

JMO

 

[gbowski]

But why carry her out? Most criminals just kill and run out leaving the body. Why take the extra time risking getting caught to remove a body? Then do what? Drive down the road with it?

Might be harder to prosecute if they can’t find a body….

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

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I am really with a 2-3 person theory involved. 1 person knows her well and other 1 (or 2) know the guy who knows her well. My theory and im not implicating anyone.

Same. 2-3 people. JMO

 

[Stunned]

Usually they have emergency judges on call to issue warrants so I'm a bit surprised by the wait if it is warrant-related. MO

Especially for a high profile case like this one.

 

[cady]

Might be harder to prosecute if they can’t find a body….

EXACTLY

 

[Strangeworld]

With the importance of this case (abduction), I'm guessing there won't be much of a delay from the courts. LE likely has a judge on speed dial.

Agree, they would likely have a judge on standby, a back up and a back up back up. They can't afford any delays in such a visible case

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Something seems to be going on in Tucson tonight. Wish we’d just get some news about it.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Well if the person doesn't know now they wouldn't have known if they were secretly doing it.

Believe it's likely this person is under surveillance and that they likely have LE positioned on neighborhood entrances / exits. JMO

 

[Researche]

But why carry her out? Most criminals just kill and run out leaving the body. Why take the extra time risking getting caught to remove a body? Then do what? Drive down the road with it?

I saw on dateline very recently where there was a murder trial that ended in a mistrial and they thought it happened because no body had been found. (Case went back to trial when body was eventually found.) Maybe the perp here was thinking that disposing of NG would create less of a chance of being caught?
MOO

 

[Emerald1328]

This has been so intense the entire time. Someone give insight to why we are so gripped by this story? My husband thinks I'm nuts and my children are like mom please give me your attention! Just so many crazy ups and downs

I think it’s because a low-risk person being kidnapped in the dead of night out of their own home, in a safe, upper middle-class quiet neighborhood is very unusual. We know that there are places we go where we could be kidnapped, no matter how benign - the park, a mall, a baseball game. However, we feel like we can have some control over that - if we stay in pairs we will be ok, if we keep an eye out for strangers, we can avoid being grabbed. But the fact that someone broke into Nancy’s home and took her out of it, gives everyone a sense of unease. People figure, well, I’ll never get kidnapped from a park because I’ll just never go to a park. But now, the possibility that it can happen in your own home while minding your business is terrifying.

 

[Skigh]

Under what circumstances are we allowed to live post scanner info?

please post it in the Scanner thread ,people would like to read it.