AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shonyakay]

Yeah, unfortunately we must brace ourselves for some bad news in that regard. There is still a tiny bit of hope.

I deeply hope she is found, she has to be back with her family where she belongs.

Love will always conquer this type of evil. However, I cannot comprehend how evil one must be to do this…

If the news reports are true about the suicide, then they have captured the evil entities.

I also believe this i.e. if one of the culprits self deleted.

 

[TharTrooth]

Whilst I think it's vital to consider every angle, and the role of an amateur sleuth is to clutch onto every straw dangled in front of our faces, it's important to say that the link to ZJ, via MG Motors, is tenuous at best.

The car impounded by the police had an MG sticker on it. That means it was purchased at the dealership...nothing more. ZJ 'likes' all the posts made by MG, not those exclusive to the Range Rovers on sale, and he's an employee there, so he's almost duty bound to promote their social media.

Whilst his eyes and facial hair do look remarkably like those of "Lantana man" (I've even superimposed the colourised infrared balaclava images over photos of ZJs face and the resemblance is startling) the same could be said for heaven-knows how many more people.

I'm all for good investigating and I've been swept up in NGs disappearance like everyone else here, but I think we should exercise caution when the links are, at this stage, circumstantial at best.

 

[KivaloNyomozo’]

Did anyone scroll through the IG and see the photos of him standing/his legs/type of shoes?

 

[Voidz]

I can’t seem to get any “latest” results about ZB on X, which makes me think that’s deliberate and this IS the culprit and MAYBE he is the one who shot himself.
I’m speculating, of course.

 

[girlhasnoname]

If LE is checking Walmarts now, this might be over soon!

FBI describes Nancy Guthrie case suspect, backpack as sheriff asks locals for video

The suspect in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie is described as male, approximately 5’9” - 5’10” tall, with an average build, according to the FBI, which increased its reward to $100,000 from $50,000.

www.foxnews.com

“A law enforcement expert speculated Friday that investigators working the Nancy Guthrie case are likely reviewing sales of Ozark Trail backpacks at Walmart stores in the Tucson area.

“If it was purchased new, you can go to Walmart with a subpoena, they will do this, they probably have already done it, and say who has bought that specific backpack in the greater Tucson area over the last couple of months, last six months, year, whatever it is, so now you get a list of names,” NBC law enforcement and national intelligence reporter Tom Winter said on the “Today" on Friday. “Even if they bought by cash, you would still have a record of that person buying, perhaps surveillance video of that person buying.”

The FBI’s Phoenix Office said Thursday that the masked suspect seen in a surveillance video released earlier this week is “wearing a black, 25-liter ‘Ozark Trail Hiker Pack’ backpack.” The Ozark Trail brand is owned by Walmart.”

Good ole' Walmart has been the downfall of too many criminals to name.

 

[shonyakay]

The mods must be sleeping.

 

[Voidz]

Whilst I think it's vital to consider every angle, and the role of an amateur sleuth is to clutch onto every straw dangled in front of our faces, it's important to say that the link to ZJ, via MG Motors, is tenuous at best.

The car impounded by the police had an MG sticker on it. That means it was purchased at the dealership...nothing more. ZJ 'likes' all the posts made by MG, not those exclusive to the Range Rovers on sale, and he's an employee there, so he's almost duty bound to promote their social media.

Whilst his eyes and facial hair do look remarkably like those of "Lantana man" (I've even superimposed the colourised infrared balaclava images over photos of ZJs face and the resemblance is startling) the same could be said for heaven-knows how many more people.

I'm all for good investigating and I've been swept up in NGs disappearance like everyone else here, but I think we should exercise caution when the links are, at this stage, circumstantial at best.

No one here has doxxed him. The FBI has swarmed in on this vehicle and it’s linked to that dealership. I think we are on the money, but innocent until proven guilty. But, again, no one has named him or his associates.

 

[Cassie P]

Aw, shucks, thanks! I'm anxious to see what pans out. I need to give credit to who originally posted the theory that a dealership employee may have been driving the car (due to the paper tag). That's what got my wheels turning.

Eta: it was @Devs who made the comment. Thanks to them!

Kudos to both of you! This is a really good example of why off the cuff and outside the box thinking should be encouraged. Sometimes the biggest breakthroughs come from this kind of dynamic.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Thank you. I hope this gets picked up by a lot of media, because it's wrong to keep accusing people of a crime without having evidence. JMO

Agreed, I got it from the MSN article I posted in the link at the bottom so at least it is out there to some degree. I never thought a family member was involved. I can't explain exactly why I felt that way, I just did.

JMO

 

[TIGER0822]

Waiting to hear. I have a bad feeling about what was found in the Range Rover.

 

[UsernameRequired]

The car impounded by the police had an MG sticker on it. That means it was purchased at the dealership...nothing more.

If this is the same Land Rover, it was not purchased recently and is still for sale. You can see the price history of it here on the CarFax website. The dealer, MG Motors lowered the price to $17,995 on February 3rd. Several days AFTER Nancy went missing.

The last ransom letter sent to TMZ that Harvey read, is either legit or extremely coincidental given that "international" line. Look up those who own and work at MG Motors. And we aren't talking about Mexico.

"The manhunt of the main individual that can give you all the answers, be prepared to go international"

2017 Land Rover Range Rover Sport for sale in Tucson, AZ - CARFAX

Make a more informed buying decision at CARFAX by first viewing vehicle history on this 2017 Land Rover Range Rover Sport.

www.carfax.com

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

And he has access to many vehicles so evidence could be in any of them

 

[shonyakay]

So now I wonder if it was the range rover or the white van that LE was looking into regarding the vehicle of interest seen at the Circle K early last week. Maybe both.

Why was it so hard to track? Was it because it wasn't registered to anyone current i.e. from the motor company?

 

[connie9030]

What is your opinion on why he was knocking?
Maybe knocking for his accomplice(s) who entered from the back door to let him in?

I think NG was knocked out with a substance while at dinner. This is why the

Waiting to hear. I have a bad feeling about what was found in the Range Rover.

Me too. Why hold the yellow tarp up before opening the hatch unless you think there is something very sensitive in there?

 

[mickey2942]

Hawthorne man accused of sending fake ransom note to Guthrie family appears in Tucson federal court

A Hawthorne man accused of sending a fake ransom note connected to Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping case appeared in a Tucson federal courtroom on Thursday, according to federal investigators.

abc7.com

 

[boomburger]

Hawthorne man accused of sending fake ransom note to Guthrie family appears in Tucson federal court

A Hawthorne man accused of sending a fake ransom note connected to Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping case appeared in a Tucson federal courtroom on Thursday, according to federal investigators.

abc7.com

What a loser. I hate it when people do this.

 

[elliefant]

Nancy Grace was saying LE were asking about a grey van when doing neighbourhood searches some days ago, fwiw.

 

[CuriousCricket]

If this is the same Land Rover, it was not purchased recently and is still for sale. You can see the price history of it here on the CarFax website. The dealer, MG Motors lowered the price to $17,995 on February 3rd. Several days AFTER Nancy went missing.

2017 Land Rover Range Rover Sport for sale in Tucson, AZ - CARFAX

Make a more informed buying decision at CARFAX by first viewing vehicle history on this 2017 Land Rover Range Rover Sport.

www.carfax.com

Interesting. It has occurred to me that someone working at a dealership and having access to so many different vehicles to drive might explain why LE has never had a vehicle to look for.

 

[Napoli]

I have given this a lot of thought. I am perplexed as to WHY the ransom hasnt been paid. SG said "we will pay". I am tired of the MSM excuses.." the ransom notes might not be real"--- "It will encourage others to do this"---- "Kidnapping for ransom is rare". FIRST OF ALL, kidnappings for ransom are often not done in the public eye. Money is exchanged. Person is returned. SECOND, cartel type kidnappings are frequent, especially south of the border ( not suggesting that is what this, BTW ) Kidnappings for ransom do happen. If it has "fallen out of fashion", it's back. Even for this one case. What is old often becomes new again.

I still maintain that the kidnapper is a celebrity stalker who hyperfocused on SG. Age disparity doesnt even enter into this. He can't have SG and decided to get her mother to garner SG's attention and to have the aura of possessing something close to SG.. They are dealing with a delusional, marginalized, socially awkward man who imagines SG is his secret lover. imo. Someone out there knows this person. Thus, the ransom note writer. Although perp and the ransom note writer could be one and the same. I believe the ransom should have been paid. There was a window of opportunity that, IMO, has passed. The "belief" that others would copycat this is not a good enough reason to have not paid the ransom and the FBI suggests but never tells them yes or no. It's up to the family and resources. Finally,while I sincerely wish all wonderful things for this entire family and pray for NG's safe return, the media frenzy over this has become over the top and is probably only FEEDING the ego of the perp. Pray for the families of the little girls who are kidnapped and barely get 2 minutes airtime on the local news. MOO

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

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