AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[oc1234]

Has it been confirmed that one person shot himself during the raid and is deceased? So there were 4 but 3 were actually detained?

imo NO. This information came from a neighbor's statement that MSM reported. LE has not verified it.

 

[armchairagatha]

When I went to bed last night, supposedly a lot of reporters got a big tip about SWAT and they assumed it would be either at AG's house or at the house they are staying, which turned out to be wrong? But then NewsNation followed SWAT from staging area and they were the first ones at the SWAT situation. So, who is ZJ? Not a name, I know we can't do that, but we do we know of any connection of ZJ with the Guthrie family at all? I did see a post from last night that someone at the house supposedly works in same office as AG, but that was early, so I'm not sure if that was true or not. Dang, I was really, really hoping Nancy was at the house, just sitting there, perhaps handcuffed to a chair by her captors, and was going to be okay...

The connection if any may have been NG stopping by this dealership recently to look at a car to buy. And car salesmen are chatty so I can see the conversation turning to Savannah based on the last name. And from there, we can speculate that the suspect saw an opportunity for kidnapping and ransom. MOO

 

[rebel123]

I dunno This thread has been a WILD ride for sure so far. And my brain is still being twisted into a trying to figure it all out.

ETA @tricia posted that she is allowing initials fwiw.

There are lots of 'threads' to this, it's 'fluid' situation, when you think you've 'nailed facts', they change. Everyone has in their mind what's happened, then the facts alter that, the mind adjusts, then our minds alter with the facts.

 

[SMK777]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022606590646587691

 

[birdbox]

Im sure someone already shared from last night. I am really far behind. Saw this video of Range Rover search.

Also another photo before yellow tarp put up shows what looks like a black sheet covering something and a tan utility type trunk sitting on top of black rolled item. I am guessing maybe some evidence on here tools, clothes, etc.

 

[Duk3]

When I went to bed last night, supposedly a lot of reporters got a big tip about SWAT and they assumed it would be either at AG's house or at the house they are staying, which turned out to be wrong? But then NewsNation followed SWAT from staging area and they were the first ones at the SWAT situation. So, who is ZJ? Not a name, I know we can't do that, but we do we know of any connection of ZJ with the Guthrie family at all? I did see a post from last night that someone at the house supposedly works in same office as AG, but that was early, so I'm not sure if that was true or not. Dang, I was really, really hoping Nancy was at the house, just sitting there, perhaps handcuffed to a chair by her captors, and was going to be okay...

the vehicle that was seized last night had what appeared to be temporary plates (the plate number was covered) but a dealership could be determined even though the plate was covered. Someone here sleuthed to the dealership page and saw a male that bears a notable resemblance to the person at NG's house that covered her camera with a plant. It is against rules to point at someone that is not officially named a POI

 

[oc1234]

When I went to bed last night, supposedly a lot of reporters got a big tip about SWAT and they assumed it would be either at AG's house or at the house they are staying, which turned out to be wrong? But then NewsNation followed SWAT from staging area and they were the first ones at the SWAT situation. So, who is ZJ? Not a name, I know we can't do that, but we do we know of any connection of ZJ with the Guthrie family at all? I did see a post from last night that someone at the house supposedly works in same office as AG, but that was early, so I'm not sure if that was true or not. Dang, I was really, really hoping Nancy was at the house, just sitting there, perhaps handcuffed to a chair by her captors, and was going to be okay...

The AG rumor was put to bed by PCSD on twitter.

 

[connie9030]

< back to look at bald guy on IG >

It's pretty far down. Keep going.

 

[catpatrol]

There's no confirmed report of anyone shooting themselves. I was following this live last night and first the shooting was allegedly at the white van traffic stop and now people are saying it was in the Range Rover at Culvers. There is a YouTuber who says they saw it happen and is traumatized, but so far none of that has been confirmed by police and judging from the emergency response, at least near the Range Rover, it didn't seem like someone was shot there.

 

[K9Enzo]

uh IF THERE WAS A DEAD BODY IN THE CAR, no one COULD SIT IN THERE FOR LONG. The odor would be horrendous. If you,ve never been exposed to decomposing remains, you can't even imagine the stench..

Agreed. The smell, IMO, is also sweet. It can stay in your nostrils. Horrendous. It’s hard to describe. There would also be visible blow fly activity. It would be a gnarly scene. Not to mention this is AZ weather. There could be trace decomp of course.

I think it’s likely LE was wisely shielding the area so “we” couldn’t see what they were collecting or even looking at. IMO

 

[oc1234]

Also another photo before yellow tarp put up shows what looks like a black sheet covering something and a tan utility type trunk sitting on top of black rolled item. I am guessing maybe some evidence on here tools, clothes, etc.

This is LE SUV, not the RR

 

[NoeticSoul]

There are lots of 'threads' to this, it's 'fluid' situation, when you think you've 'nailed facts', they change. Everyone has in their mind what's happened, then the facts alter that, the mind adjusts, then we our minds alter with the facts.

Exactly. It's mentally exhausting.. I can't even begin to imagine what the family is going through

 

[NonnaBalogna]

Does anyone know if there is a way to determine when the Google street view image of the van in the driveway was taken?

The year yes, I don’t think anything more than that. You can also see I think it’s the past 4 images from pull down. Year is white script in several places on photo.

 

[Napoli]

Recently moved it?

Odor from decomposition doesnt fade quickly and lingers on fabrics and walls. If you open the front door of a home that has or has recently had a body decomposing, you can smell it from across the street. You can't perfume it away either.

 

[birdbox]

the vehicle that was seized last night had what appeared to be temporary plates (the plate number was covered) but a dealership could be determined even though the plate was covered. Someone here sleuthed to the dealership page and saw a male that bears a notable resemblance to the person at NG's house that covered her camera with a plant. It is against rules to point at someone that is not officially named a POI

Sleuthers doing what they do best!! Haha

 

[naomiuk]

Also another photo before yellow tarp put up shows what looks like a black sheet covering something and a tan utility type trunk sitting on top of black rolled item. I am guessing maybe some evidence on here tools, clothes, etc.

That isn’t the Range Rover IMO, it’s the FBI car

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Good morning. Just catching up. Did LE ever release a statement? Or was it a nothing type of statement?

 

[Nikynoo]

Unfortunately, there is a paywall.

Where are you based?

 

[birdbox]

Odor from decomposition doesnt fade quickly and lingers on fabrics and walls. If you open the front door of a home that has or has recently had a body decomposing, you can smell it from across the street. You can't perfume it away either.

Remember with Caylee Anthony? The grandmother is the one who said it smelled like a dead body had been in the trunk of Casey's car.

 

[Sessiebo]

I absolutely agree. My son looks like this. My husband used to look like this before going gray and bald . I hate that we are sleuthing this person. Yet, what I understand is that last night a websleuth noticed a car at the scene being investigated (?) with dealer plates/paper and looked up the dealership. An associate looks like the Lois Gibson sketch. Others have found more about this person. It’s interesting— we will see.

I'm pretty sure more people who know people acquainted with those people look like that too. I mean, it's overstretching and IMO really not ok to just randomly point out men unless they acted suspicious and are on cctv like that guy on a porch caught on Ring on 23jan for example. JMO