AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[loves2readhistory]

Serious question, is it too much to expect LE/FBI to hold a presser? There was and continues to be huge, worldwide attention from last night, I think it would help for them to clarify and provide some clear information to avoid any more speculation around what happened and why no arrests

LE/anyone tries to avoid a press conference to say “we messed up”. If they didn’t detain anyone and they were basically released at the scene or soon after, it sounds like a tip that went amuck. I sympathize with the pressure they are under and obviously there is no way to approach suspects w/o this cadre of support but looks like better research beforehand would be the order of the day.
They didn’t do ANY real research about the guy in Rio Rico to rule him out going by how fast he was released. How much time did they spend trying to say this last group WASN’T viable as suspects vs WAS???
When you are under pressure you can react in detrimental ways just as positive ones.

 

[Silverstorm]

They detained a mother and son from a house. They detained someone else at a traffic stop. They went to detain a fourth person who shot himself in the head. That speaks as massive guilt to me. Moo. You cannot arrest a dead person. So thats why no arrest was made. @brianentin

 

[wibbleflea]

Hasn’t he been released?

Was never detained. Not involved in yesterday’s LE activity.

 

[zecats]

Thank you. My feelings are all over the place right now and it make’s me sympathize for the Guthrie family. I cannot imagine what they are going through.

I know right? We all get caught up in every lead with hopes of an arrest and the location of NG. I can barely imagine the roller coaster ride her children, family and friends are on following a positive break in the case to have it all come crashing down. JMO

 

[loves2readhistory]

View attachment 644909

Full body shot definitely looks similar to Lantana Man. Worked on height again by guessing these tile are 24x24.
Visually, his full height (feet to head) spans just under 3 tiles vertically. 3 tiles = 72″ (6′0″), He appears closer to ~2.8–2.9 tiles. Estimate:2.85 × 24″ ≈ 68–69″→ 5′8″–5′9″

I think 5'10" Lantana Man and at 5'9" are one and the same.

No wonder dude was so double layered up. He is hairrrryyyyy with a capital H. There's a pic in shorts on his IG. Scary pic with AK rifles too.

All JMOO.

Could you give a reference for why this photo is here w/your conjectures?

 

[penguinface]

There was an unconfirmed rumor that someone shot themself last night. I don't believe this has been substantiated by any reliable source. The rumor originated from a neighbor's statement.

JMO

The rumour was going round before the neighbour’s statement, originating on YT, I believe, but you’re right, no official confirmation or media reporting so far.

JMO

 

[armchairagatha]

They detained a mother and son from a house. They detained someone else at a traffic stop. They went to detain a fourth person who shot himself in the head. That speaks as massive guilt to me. Moo. You cannot arrest a dead person. So thats why no arrest was made.

Please stop spreading misinformation. Or link to an article that says definitively someone shot themselves.

 

[Spectrix]

Wouldn't today be a great day for a Press Conference!
I feel one is LONG overdue.

We don't need a press conference when we have a perfectly good information vacuum to generate our news:

Some random who liked a post on instagram is discovered to look very much like a sketch artist's guess at what the evil armed bandit might look like, so he's assumed to be guilty of kidnapping and God knows what else, he subsequently has to shut down his social media and go into hiding.

Some other random tells the press that three people were detained, but one of them first tried to flee the police, crashed his car into a tree, shot himself in the head and died, and then was detained afterwards.

On the plus side, it probably takes the heat off poor Carlos the delivery driver.

 

[loves2readhistory]

They detained a mother and son from a house. They detained someone else at a traffic stop. They went to detain a fourth person who shot himself in the head. That speaks as massive guilt to me. Moo. You cannot arrest a dead person. So thats why no arrest was made.

You want to put a reliable link to the person who shot himself???
I think that is incorrect info.

 

[cherryleaf]

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No arrests

 

[SRWCF]

There was an unconfirmed rumor that someone shot themself last night. I don't believe this has been substantiated by any reliable source. The rumor originated from a neighbor's statement.

JMO

There was also a news story with the same title, but when I clicked on the link, it gave me a 404 error.

 

[fcavanaugh]

Dropping this here as seems to be some confusion on thread wrt someone being detained (detention) vs. arrested, which are two different things/meanings.
Snipped from link and BBUM:

“An officer's "brief and cursory" holding and questioning of someone is a detention. An example is a cop stopping someone who is behaving suspiciously in order to ask a few questions. The suspect isn't free to leave, but he also isn't under arrest, at least until the officer develops probable cause. Another common example is an officer pulling over a driver for some kind of traffic or equipment violation.”

“An arrest, on the other hand, involves the police taking someone into custody through a more significant restraint on movement. The quintessential example involves the use of handcuffs and an advisement that the suspect is under arrest.”

“Investigatory stops (or "detentions") must be no longer than necessary and officers must investigate with the least intrusive means that are reasonably available.”

*more in depth explanation at link:

Arrest vs. Detention: How to Tell Whether You've Been Arrested or Detained

In general, if a reasonable person in the suspect’s shoes wouldn’t feel free to leave an encounter with the police, then there’s been either a detention or an

www.nolo.com

IMO

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[priyaya]

Please stop spreading misinformation. Or link to an article that says definitively someone shot themselves.

agree previous KVOA report now has been deleted

 

[layer]

Could you give a reference for why this photo is here w/your conjectures?

Selfie perhaps? Showing latest diet/workout results?

 

[MarSzych]

What if someone paid the initial $50000 from the TMZ ransom yesterday, and the receiver immediately used it to purchase the Land Rover. Maybe was trying to dispose of the evidence when pulled over. And the employee of the car dealership was taken for questioning to get information about the purchaser. I’m not sure if the timeline adds up, but just a thought.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I don't have any brand recommendations but IMO it's best to get a system that records to it's own device (I use a PC as a back end 'server' if you will) and also uploads to the cloud. Redundancy of data collection seems like overkill to many people, but if something happens when your wifi is cut you've got the on-premise device. If they take or destroy your on-premise device the data is still retrievable.

Also get an expandable system where you can add cameras to the same network if needed. I think most are up to a certain number. Mine is very old but IIRC when I bought it it came with 6 cameras and I was able to add up to another 6 to the same instance on the software.

JMO

Maybe start a new thread to discuss or DM?

Please, it’s so hard to keep up here! OT posts only add to the log jam.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

The rumour was going round before the neighbour’s statement, originating on YT, I believe, but you’re right, no official confirmation or media reporting so far.

JMO

I was listening to the scanner last night and yes there was someone shot in the face. However, with that said, I got the impression that it was unrelated to NG investigation. There was also a report of a young man acting strange in the middle of the road that was called in.

IMHO, I don't believe either are related to NG case.

 

[TharTrooth]

View attachment 644909

Full body shot definitely looks similar to Lantana Man. Worked on height again by guessing these tile are 24x24.
Visually, his full height (feet to head) spans just under 3 tiles vertically. 3 tiles = 72″ (6′0″), He appears closer to ~2.8–2.9 tiles. Estimate:2.85 × 24″ ≈ 68–69″→ 5′8″–5′9″

I think 5'10" Lantana Man and at 5'9" are one and the same.

No wonder dude was so double layered up. He is hairrrryyyyy with a capital H. There's a pic in shorts on his IG. Scary pic with AK rifles too.

All JMOO.

Why on earth are you posting this man's photo? Have the police released any suspects names? No, they haven't. This is astonishingly irresponsible

 

[GMG1999]

I am confused, but maybe some of you can help. What do you have to have for a search warrant? I was under the impression you had to have something more than just a lead? It blows my mind that you send that many things as last night, ME, multiple forensics, two SWAT teams, to end with the nothing. This is two major operations now and no arrests? It seems odd.

 

[danablue1]

I think the media need to stay out of this. They create chaos and false hope