AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[OldCop]

I would think there would be more vetting of the tip. Again, feel sorry for anyone who even remotely resembles this perp.

Hoping and praying NG is found alive but I don't have much confidence in this SO.

The SO made some serious errors at the beginning of this case. They failed to protect the crime scene. There were a lot of complaints about time lost.
Now people want to spend more time to vet each tip. As I stated above, you need probable cause to get a search warrant.

The Burden of Proof for Establishing Probable Cause​

The burden of proof for establishing probable cause does not demand absolute certainty or conclusive evidence of criminal activity. Rather, it requires a reasonable basis or suspicion backed by factual evidence that would lead a prudent person to believe that a crime has been, is being, or will be committed.

The facts and circumstances used to justify probable cause must be more than mere suspicion or hunches; they should be concrete and substantiated by observable evidence or reliable information. For instance, an officer witnessing a person actively engaging in a crime or possessing illegal contraband can constitute probable cause.

What Is the Burden of Proof for Probable Cause?

Probable cause is often cited as the reason for performing a search. However, it may not be enough to perform a search legally. Read on to learn more.

www.legaldefense.com

LE is evidently providing probable cause to the judges who are issuing these warrants. That would indicate to me that they are properly vetting those tips that have resulted in the police actions we have recently witnessed.

 

[fcavanaugh]

Hey! I'm new here. Is anyone able to tell me if Nancy has been found yet?

No, Nancy hasn’t been found yet unfortunately.

IMO

 

[SlimPickens]

Here’s a compelling TMZ video of Harvey Levin and Merk Geragos discussing the case, where Levin gives a firm statement that he knows (his emphasis on that word) - "100%" - that the FBI is moving on the assumption that the ransom demand and kidnapper are from the same source, and are also very interested in the person wanting bitcoin reward for information about who did this. He also stated this in a Fox News interview this AM.

JMO.

 

[Wishbone]

A high-level source tells Fox News Digital that after last night's activity in Tucson the FBI is still waiting for the Pima County Sheriff's Department's lab results.

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff says no arrests, none remain in custody after major operation

FBI and local authorities conducted a major operation in connection to the Nancy Guthrie case, as at least three people were detained and a vehicle was hauled off. The 84-year-old mother of NBC "Today" host Savannah Guthrie has been missing for two weeks.

www.foxnews.com

Hopefully when they do, results will shed some light.

Well, hopefully these results will shed some light because the handling of this case has been a disappointment since the beginning and continues to remain just that.Instead of inept initial crime scene operations we now have extreme over reactions to possible suspects supposedly sorted from various tips and investigating. We remain in the dark as to what actually transpires during and after the actions of LE on these latest raids.After the first detainment ended so badly one would think LE would be sure before searching another home, but no, they went even deeper and more invasive to the occupants than they did with the first. With nothing to focus on they continued searching well into the night, for nothing. It should have become obvious pretty quickly that the people they detained weren't involved, yet LE continued on with their search to potentially include the medical examiner office. They should have just admitted they blew it again. SG needs to contact her government friend and get this investigation on track. Just call me disappointed. JMOO

 

[Sessiebo]

Source: FBI awaits evidence testing; sheriff reports no signs of Nancy Guthrie

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said Saturday there’s been no signs of Nancy Guthrie while addressing late-night searches conducted near the home of the missing 84-year-old

www.azfamily.com

Curious to find out the results, hoping for some good news

 

[Spectrix]

I wonder if this hints at just because no one was arrested in last night's raid, that doesn't necessarily mean that LE / FBI won't return to make an arrest after the extra evidence that was gathered from the vehicle and residence has been tested.

That is the way I read it. They may need to process swabs, DNA and things like cell phone extractions which can take a really long time to go through when we have our life's history loaded on our phones.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022760296457412838

Doesn’t look the same to me at all. Why do they even give this air play? I simply took the two images and put side by side from the article. Strap length different, angles at curve different.

A $10 Walmart gun holster could help identify suspect in Nancy Guthrie case

FBI recovers doorbell video showing masked suspect with rare $10 Walmart holster in the abduction of NBC host Savannah Guthrie's 84-year-old mother.

www.foxnews.com

 

[stmichael]

All four people questioned last night have been released​

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: All four people questioned last night have been released

The desperate search for Nancy Guthrie is entering its second week — as the 84-year-old mother of “Today” anchor Savannah Guthrie was last seen at her Arizona home on Jan. 31.

nypost.com

edit: that's the actual headline, article like other sources says "3 people"

No one shot themselves in the head. There is no other mention on local news or the original station that quoted a "witness" saying so.

KOLD | Tucson Local News, Weather, Sports | Tucson, AZ

KOLD | Tucson Local News, Weather, Sports | Tucson, AZ

www.kold.com

Criminal defense attorney Donna Rotunno said it is “strange” that multiple people have been detained in connection with Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance without any arrests being made.

“We saw this flurry of activity last night and then several hours later we find out that they brought people in and let them go,” Rotunno said. “That's strange actually.

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff says no arrests, none remain in custody after major operation

FBI and local authorities conducted a major operation in connection to the Nancy Guthrie case, as at least three people were detained and a vehicle was hauled off. The 84-year-old mother of NBC "Today" host Savannah Guthrie has been missing for two weeks.

www.foxnews.com

Looks like Nanos is using the ole' map on the dartboard and detain 'em tactic. Bold move.

 

[ldlager]

True, but no one knows for sure if she is dead or, if so, how long she has been dead. It's not like flipping a switch where as soon as someone dies, the smell appears.

Actually, as bodily fluids may release, it can be exactly instantaneous

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Doesn’t look the same to me at all. Why do they even give this air play? I simply took the two images and put side by side from the article. Strap length different, angles at curve different.

A $10 Walmart gun holster could help identify suspect in Nancy Guthrie case

FBI recovers doorbell video showing masked suspect with rare $10 Walmart holster in the abduction of NBC host Savannah Guthrie's 84-year-old mother.

www.foxnews.com

Having a weapon in the holster could make a difference in some of those features IMO.

 

[RedHaus]

Here’s a compelling TMZ video of Harvey Levin and Merk Geragos discussing the case, where Levin gives a firm statement that he knows (his emphasis on that word) - "100%" - that the FBI is moving on the assumption that the ransom demand and kidnapper are from the same source, and are also very interested in the person wanting bitcoin reward for information about who did this. He also stated this in a Fox News interview this AM.

JMO.

Interesting... This is has NOT been my presumption. Do we trust Harvey?

As you summarized:

"...Levin gives a firm statement that he knows (his emphasis on that word) - "100%" - that the FBI are moving on the assumption that the ransom demand and kidnapper are from the same source..."

 

[j322]

David C., who lives next door to the home that investigators searched overnight, said the home’s owner told him that her son had been questioned and released and was now with friends.

The woman was home by herself when investigators showed up at about 6 p.m. Friday with a search warrant, Mr. C. said in an interview on his back patio on Saturday morning. She was not allowed to be inside her home as investigators searched, Mr. C. said, so the woman instead spent the night at Mr. C’s house.

It is unclear what drew dozens of law enforcement officials to the home late Friday, and the authorities said on Saturday that no one had been arrested.

Nancy Guthrie Live Updates: Authorities Say No One in Custody After Search Warrant Served

www.nytimes.com

Have they said the actual address yet? They interviewed a PM yesterday who said his house was right across the street from the raid.. he’s on Camino De Michael

 

[BellaToothless]

Updates on the case from AZ local news source.

Also see the excellent timeline of events they’ve laid out.

Source: FBI awaits evidence testing; sheriff reports no signs of Nancy Guthrie

 

[ArmchairDetectif]

I've been thinking about how this old lady could have opened her door to let the kidnappers in.

Was she a religious lady? I think maybe she thought she "heard" a voice beckoning her to "the other side" (aka heaven!) and to "open the door" to let the Holy Spirit in.

I know of a number of the older members of the Congregation at my church have had similar out of body experiences. I wonder if this happened to Nancy.

 

[CandyKiss]

They cannot ask the FBI to take the lead. The FBI only takes the lead in federal crimes such as terrorism, bank robbery, kidnapping across state lines., civil rights, counter intelligence.. FEDERAL CRIMES. Local law enforcement is the lead for most cases as that is how the pecking order it is designed. FBI assists in local crime when asked and it is appropriate.

Since there’s not proof NG’s kidnapping and ransom are two separate operations; the FBI could take over the case under the ‘Cryptocurrency Extortion’ scheme.

Specifically, "Extortion and Blackmail (18 U.S.C. § 873): This statute broadly criminalizes using threats or pressure to force someone to give up something of value, including cryptocurrency."

Also, there is a belief that (if not proof) more than one perp is involved, this statute may apply as well. "Conspiracy Statutes (18 U.S.C. § 371): If more than one person is involved in the scheme, federal conspiracy statutes may be used" and is also under the ‘Cryptocurrency Extortion’ scheme/umbrella for Federal Crimes.

MOO...

 

[abams]

Well, hopefully these results will shed some light because the handling of this case has been a disappointment since the beginning and continues to remain just that.Instead of inept initial crime scene operations we now have extreme over reactions to possible suspects supposedly sorted from various tips and investigating. We remain in the dark as to what actually transpires during and after the actions of LE on these latest raids.After the first detainment ended so badly one would think LE would be sure before searching another home, but no, they went even deeper and more invasive to the occupants than they did with the first. With nothing to focus on they continued searching well into the night, for nothing. It should have become obvious pretty quickly that the people they detained weren't involved, yet LE continued on with their search to potentially include the medical examiner office. They should have just admitted they blew it again. SG needs to contact her government friend and get this investigation on track. Just call me disappointed. JMOO

bbm. How do you know this?

 

[tricia]

 

[thefragile7393]

I've been thinking about how this old lady could have opened her door to let the kidnappers in.

Was she a religious lady? I think maybe she thought she "heard" a voice beckoning her to "the other side" (aka heaven!) and to "open the door" to let the Holy Spirit in.

I know of a number of the older members of the Congregation at my church have had similar out of body experiences. I wonder if this happened to Nancy.

No. IMO.

 

[cathathorse]

I wonder if one of the leads LE was following was connected to the Range Rover being newly purchased (it had temporary plates in all the pictures). Maybe they were looking in the area between NG and AG's homes because they didn't get any hits on main roadway cameras so they figured the suspect traveled through the neighborhood. And then maybe they combined that with looking for recently purchased cars in the area, thinking that the suspect would have gotten rid of his car in order to destroy evidence. Perhaps if the suspect merely traded his old car in, LE impounded it yesterday from the dealership/buyer and found evidence. Or perhaps the suspect's car drove to Mexico and never came back... just a theory that I think could justify probable cause for a search warrant...

 

[shonyakay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022760296457412838

I don't know. The band around the middle of the holster looks thinner in the nest cam footage and I am not seeing a protruding area where the snap should be. Same overall shape though.