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I heard on a podcast last night that journalist are already trying to position themselves to take over Savanna's Today host position.
I know personally, Victims of violent crimes often take years (if ever) returning to their occupations and “before” routines. I can only surmise, SG is having many feelings of her celebrity. You are not responsible SG.
 
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The holster is cheap, easily distinguished and only available at a limited number of retail stores, according to an active-duty Miami-area police officer who shared his analysis with Fox News Digital in the hope it can help investigators find whoever is responsible for the abduction of Nancy Guthrie.

The Fbi teamed up with Google in the groundbreaking recovery of Guthrie’s Nest doorbell camera video last week. It is not publicly known where the device itself is, and she didn’t have a subscription that would have stored it in the cloud. But investigators were able to recover video showing a masked and gloved man on Guthrie’s porch, where law enforcement later found drops of her blood


12 days since Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of Todayshow host Savannah Guthrie, disappeared from her home near Tucson, Arizona. Footage from a doorbell camera near Nancy Guthrie’s front door showing a masked man with a gun only deepened the mystery about what happened to her, where she is, and what investigators are doing to find her.

I asked Danny Coulson, who launched the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) Hostage Rescue Team, to evaluate the investigation, explain what is going on behind the scenes, and interpret the scant details that have emerged so far.
 
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Keep the faith. They have unaccounted for DNA from NG’s house they are processing, and I absolutely believe all the activity last night has gotten them much closer. The reward money is enough to get someone to inform if LE can devise a way to make the informant feel safe from retribution of any kind.

Truly, keep the faith. There will be answers, and soon. There are plenty of positive indicators of that.

Amateur opinion and speculation only
 
  • #29,185
What is the motive for removing an 84 year old lady from her home ? Is it financial or is it something else entirely? Because atm I don't see any perp gaining financially from her disappearance
^ snipped

The New Yorker piece I posted earlier today outlined it this way:

“Leising [retired FBI agent] described five reasons someone might commit a kidnapping:

financial gain,

ideology,

domestic discord,

exploitation (for example, sex trafficking),

and

“delusion,” or mental illness.”

Then, the article’s author added, “One could not help wondering whether Savannah Guthrie’s prominence […] was a factor.”
 
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Do you think it could be people "playing" cartel in an effort to try and gets funds?


Ok, . Getting into this. I worked in NYC for years. A friend of my who left the force during the DeBlasio admin started a landscaping business in a cushy part of Long Island with estates and McMansions. It is no secret that there are crime affiliations and gangs based on ethnic commonality/nationalities. It is not just a cliche that many landscape hires are Spanish speaking. My friend told me "you'd be surprised how many of these guys I hired have connections, a cousin and friend a neighbor. Whatever, I have to be real careful hiring these dudes, bringing them around these houses." We had a huge problem with MS13 in the tri-state suburbs, and most people in those communities are very innocent good hardworking people, but you have to understand they navigate and live in close proximity to that element. From what I understand from colleagues many border towns share this same dynamic. So associates, wannabes, a crazy cousin trying to front as a gangbanger. I can see that sphere of influence here. There's a gray area with the street life as it were.

But it can always be something totally random. Some cases fit the pattern some are way left field.
 
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The holster is cheap, easily distinguished and only available at a limited number of retail stores, according to an active-duty Miami-area police officer who shared his analysis with Fox News Digital in the hope it can help investigators find whoever is responsible for the abduction of Nancy Guthrie.

The Fbi teamed up with Google in the groundbreaking recovery of Guthrie’s Nest doorbell camera video last week. It is not publicly known where the device itself is, and she didn’t have a subscription that would have stored it in the cloud. But investigators were able to recover video showing a masked and gloved man on Guthrie’s porch, where law enforcement later found drops of her blood


12 days since Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of Todayshow host Savannah Guthrie, disappeared from her home near Tucson, Arizona. Footage from a doorbell camera near Nancy Guthrie’s front door showing a masked man with a gun only deepened the mystery about what happened to her, where she is, and what investigators are doing to find her.

I asked Danny Coulson, who launched the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) Hostage Rescue Team, to evaluate the investigation, explain what is going on behind the scenes, and interpret the scant details that have emerged so far.
My goodness, it appears all roads lead to W-mart!

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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The holster is cheap, easily distinguished and only available at a limited number of retail stores, according to an active-duty Miami-area police officer who shared his analysis with Fox News Digital in the hope it can help investigators find whoever is responsible for the abduction of Nancy Guthrie.

The Fbi teamed up with Google in the groundbreaking recovery of Guthrie’s Nest doorbell camera video last week. It is not publicly known where the device itself is, and she didn’t have a subscription that would have stored it in the cloud. But investigators were able to recover video showing a masked and gloved man on Guthrie’s porch, where law enforcement later found drops of her blood


12 days since Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of Todayshow host Savannah Guthrie, disappeared from her home near Tucson, Arizona. Footage from a doorbell camera near Nancy Guthrie’s front door showing a masked man with a gun only deepened the mystery about what happened to her, where she is, and what investigators are doing to find her.

I asked Danny Coulson, who launched the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) Hostage Rescue Team, to evaluate the investigation, explain what is going on behind the scenes, and interpret the scant details that have emerged so far.
The positioning of holster is odd, but maybe not. I have heard talking heads on CNN and Fox stating it shows someone unfamiliar with gun holstering. That could be, but it is unique. Certainly displaying it in that way is bold and anyone watching their camera would immediately call 911. I think that is important.
 
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What if it was a gesture by NG family that they are keeping her house in good order because they have faith she may come back to it?
I thought this too. Not just to show the public but to show Nancy, if she returns, that they never gave up on her and were willing her home.
 
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Ok, . Getting into this. I worked in NYC for years. A friend of my who left the force during the DeBlasio admin started a landscaping business in a cushy part of Long Island with estates and McMansions. It is no secret that there are crime affiliations and gangs based on ethnic commonality/nationalities. It is not just a cliche that many landscape hires are Spanish speaking. My friend told me "you'd be surprised how many of these guys I hired have connections, a cousin and friend a neighbor. Whatever, I have to be real careful hiring these dudes, bringing them around these houses." We had a huge problem with MS13 in the tri-state suburbs, and most people in those communities are very innocent good hardworking people, but you have to understand they navigate and live in close proximity to that element. From what I understand from colleagues many border towns share this same dynamic. So associates, wannabes, a crazy cousin trying to front as a gangbanger. I can see that sphere of influence here. There's a gray area with the street life as it were.

But it can always be something totally random. Some cases fit the pattern some are way left field.
I agree this sounds like a definite possibility. Of course they don't know all the real ins and outs of their business or how kidnappings work. If so, I think they have simply gotten very lucky so far.
 
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Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos admitted the search for Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy, could take “years.”

After hitting several dead ends in the investigation, the weary sheriff promised that his team would remain dedicated to finding Guthrie — even if their search goes on for longer than intended.

“Maybe it’s an hour from now,” Nanos told the New York Times on Friday. “Maybe it’s weeks or months or years from now. But we won’t quit. We’re going to find Nancy. We’re going to find this guy.”

The update arrived shortly after authorities believed they had received a break in their investigation after they detained a delivery driver, Carlos Palazuelos, for questioning on Tuesday.

On Megyn Kelly's show, (27 minute mark-ish) the former FBI agent Maureen O'Connell who imo is pretty good, said:

With regard to the meds, um my mother-in-law was put on hospice because they were she was it was during COVID and she was in assisted living and they said we're taking her off all of her meds for whatever reason and we don't expect her to last long. We don't think she can last long without all this heart medication, everything, right? They took her off the meds. She lasted another couple years and she felt better than she felt while she was on the meds. So that gives me a little bit of hope.

We have to work this case. Law enforcement has to work this case like she's alive. It's the only way to work this. And that's why tensions run high. That's why the stakes are so high is because everyone's trying to believe she's going to be a she's going to come home.

And then you have Sheriff over here saying, "well it may be years." Like what?! Sir, the woman is 84. He does need to stop talking. I mean, I get reality, but I still think they are in a timeframe to keep acting with urgency until proven otherwise. At least pretend you're still on it.
 
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A new theory surrounding Nancy Guthrie's abduction points to an inside job, according to reports.

RadarOnline.com can reveal insiders close to the case believe the 84-year-old's captors would be familiar with the inside of the 84-year-old's $1million home, given interior cameras were allegedly smashed during her kidnapping.

The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone.
 
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^ snipped

The New Yorker piece I posted earlier today outlined it this way:

“Leising [retired FBI agent] described five reasons someone might commit a kidnapping:

financial gain,

ideology,

domestic discord,

exploitation (for example, sex trafficking),

and

“delusion,” or mental illness.”

Then, the article’s author added, “One could not help wondering whether Savannah Guthrie’s prominence […] was a factor.”
Revenge
 
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I agree re: it being reasonable.

I just think it's interesting and something to make note of for possibile future developments.

Looking at her landscaping, I'm guessing she didn't need weekly maintenance. We had weekly maintenance in California, but in Arizona we've always had either monthly or every other month maintenance. For the pool it was always weekly and as I mentioned, the same person for years and then his son.

Other regular maintenance items would be pest control which we have done more regularly in Arizona then we did in California. HVAC just twice a year. For us, we saw the pool guy and the weekly landscapers more than anyone else (in CA).

I would be hard pressed to think that NG was doing her own pool maintenance prior to her disappearance.
My husband is gone for months at a time so I tend to be the one to deal with things like the pool company, HVAC twice yearly service, appliance delivery and most recently a bathroom remodel. I like our pool guy but I'm 90% sure he is a former felon. And I have no problem with that but people who you have weekly contact with or even come to your home for a service do tend to learn a lot about you and your schedules, what is left unlocked and when - like say the gate leading to the back yard pool.

I imagine NG to be a gregarious outgoing woman who was always happy to chat. It's sad to realize she was taken advantage of no matter what the circumstances.
 
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I know personally, Victims of violent crimes often take years (if ever) returning to their occupations and “before” routines. I can only surmise, SG is having many feelings of her celebrity. You are not responsible SG.
From my own experience, not others.
 
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That's absolutely your right to feel that way. I would like to say that no one would criticize you if you ever were in a similar position and decided to pay without proof of life, but no matter what anyone does these days, someone will surely criticize it. However, LE generally does not recommend paying a ransom without proof of life. They are the experts and have all the statistics, so I would probably follow their advice.
and what if you pay first one without proof of life and a plan in place to exchange NG for ransom and she isn't returned do you continue to pay random people hoping one is the right one, it would be beyond insanity to pay anything without knowing NG is alive and a solid negotiated plan is in place to exchange, which is why I don't see this is a kidnapping, the messages sent to media have never provided contact details so an exchange could be negotiated that we know of,
and the families messaging was initially asking whoever took NG to get in touch
 
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I’m so very sorry to say this and it’s MOO, but I don’t think NG is with us any longer. I am thinking about my own 80 year-old plus parents and I don’t have much hope. I really and sincerely hope that I am wrong. 🙏

The kidnappers would have had to pack all of her medications for her to still be alive. They wouldn’t be taking her to the pharmacy to pick up her refills either.

I heard it mentioned once on the thread that LE was checking in to her prescription info. Has that been confirmed?
 

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