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Exactly. They spent 2 hours going through the Range Rover and then had it towed away. There has to be something there. IMOO
Right, more DNA to find.

I missed part of yesterday, who owns the grey Range Rover, taken from the burger place?
How does the RR fit into yesterday’s raids?

Thanks in advance. jMO
 
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it specifically says the friend helped her .... but whatever. She has mobility issues to the point the article states she quit going out a lot, preferring to stay home. Seems she had friends who liked to visit her and help. The friend helped her to the mailbox, its clear
 
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Her toughness has always surfaced in difficult moments, like when her husband died suddenly in 1988, or when budget cuts threatened a vital public health service at the university where she worked, or even two days before her disappearance, when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help.

Don't see them going out the garage way though to the mailbox when it looks like it is straight down the pathway from the front door ... or am I seeing something else that is not the mailbox

I would certainly go the shorter distance to my own mailbox since I have mobility problems


It also seems from the article that 2 days before disappearance she had friends in for games and I guess early birthday party and that this is when they went to mailbox

Said she would sit up a game table in the living room...which I'd think would be the first room from the front door

all speculation and my opinion .. I have mobility issues from 5 femur surgeries so I know about limiting distance

Is there any info on what caused her mobility ... just age or had she had surgeries other than the pacemaker?
Many elderly people with mobility issues struggle with steps..especially if they use a cane. I believe there are a few steps she would have to walk down if she used the front door.
 
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Respectfully, LE do not owe the public any kind of explanation. We have no idea what they are working off of or what led them to treat the situation Friday like they did, nor should we.
I’m sure, besides the family, no one wants to get to the bottom of this more than the officers and agents working nonstop through this mess.
They have been an embarrassment this last couple weeks. Can’t imagine them doing a worse job
 
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ANYONE else find it strange that there are no organized searches? One lady who volunteers anywhere they are searching for missing people including bodies can't believe there is nothing organized. I don't get it. Also I think LE does owe at least a press conf. every few days with update on things. I have never seen a crime like this with no press conferences.
 
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Agree with you completely. I have done this on the past for elderly family, if you don’t set exclusion zones, the alerts are constant. It’s also why people who don’t fully understand how the camera works end up turning off alerts, etc.
MOO
 
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Correct me if I am wrong. She was found missing by her family on Sunday FEBRUARY 1. Ransom note came in on the morning of FEBRUARY 3 to TMZ and a couple of other news outlets that were local. Perp was waiting for news to break. Attention was desired. IMO. he sure got it. SG had a stalker who wanted her attention. Involving TMZ, which is an entertainment outlet, just further cements it for me. JMO and i am sticking to it
I wish we could see the letters! I agree this person likes the attention.
 
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The FBI cannot obtain a federal warrant for a crime that pertains only to a state criminal statute/matter, and by definition if a federal criminal statute has been violated it supersedes a similar state one. That the FBI was able to obtain a federal warrant regarding this case is prima facie evidence that necessary components exist within this crime to make it a federal crime. Which then makes the FBI the primary investigators of this crime.

JMO.
Yes, they absolutely can under the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act. It’s literally the entire premise of Safe Streets Task Forces.

For a WS-centric example, the FBI obtained search warrants to search the house and property of RL in the Delphi case, which was a state case the FBI was providing assistance on. There were never federal charges pending or investigated in that case.

JMO
 
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Nancy Guthrie cops 'did not arrest ANYONE' after two dramatic raids
It was the Daily Mail that I read this morning that an NBC affiliate KVOA had unconfirmed report of a neighbor seeing someone shoot themselves in the head during the SWAT raid of the Tucson home but no further information about the alleged incident”
according to the Sheriff, there was no shooting or suicide involved in last night’s operations, as had been claimed by some.
 
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something that I find odd is it seems few of the homes I have seen on maps in the area have fences or gates, don't coyotes and other wild animals live in the area?

Grew up in a rural area with coyotes. They aren’t interested in people generally. As a kid roaming the fields, occasionally we would see one. A couple of hand claps from us little kids and they take off running.
 
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what the hey??? Man released was their poi?? wow
 
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He sounded frustrated, with what we can't know, the whole investigation? People holding stuff back when questioned? Perhaps some detail they overlooked?
He sounded frustrated from the very first presser. As I recall, he made a comment about the media/reporters calling him all night and said “you’re driving me crazy.” If he’s exhausted why not appoint a PIO to handle the media and press conferences? JMHO
 
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This case began as a mystery, morphed into a suspected tragedy and has been turned into a farce by law enforcement!

this woman deserves better than this
 
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Yes, they absolutely can under the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act. It’s literally the entire premise of Safe Streets Task Forces.

For a WS-centric example, the FBI obtained search warrants to search the house and property of RL in the Delphi case, which was a state case the FBI was providing assistance on. There were never federal charges pending or investigated in that case.

JMO
Were the feds simultaneously prosecuting some individuals for Internet related crimes that they thought he was related to?
 
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It's interesting they went through the trouble of evidence sealing and towing the Range if the traffic stop amounted to nothing. For them to go in full cavalry last night, there had to be something there that made them think "this is it." They can't be blindly chasing tips.
 
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We have coyotes here...it's an issue with pets etc. Coyotes have the ability to get over a 7 to 8 ft high fence or wall. Lots of cases here.
Right, coyotes are bad here. Many people have enclosed dog runs, livestock pens, to guard pet animals.
JMO
 
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what the hey??? Man released was their poi?? wow
I took this statement as the man detained was according to investigation deemed to be their main POI, but after they interviewed him, they determined he was not. Nanos told Fox News on Saturday the man detained in a traffic stop outside the Culver's restaurant Friday night was investigators' "person of interest," and was cooperative.

Source Fox News latest updates. Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff says no arrests, none remain in custody after major operation
 
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Who does Nano report to? Who is his boss? I live in a very large city where we don't really have a strong presence of sheriffs, state police or county police. Our police commissioner reports directly to the mayor.
 
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