• #29,561
I've been watching the NewsNation special tonight with Brian Entin. I just learned the police had a "signal sniffer" to see if they could connect to Nancy's pacemaker that they had sent in for the search. I wasn't sure that they had tried that, but I'm glad to know they have that tool in case they have a different area to search. I'm still hoping she's alive, but if she's not at least they could find her body.
Source: NewsNation Live
JMO
 
  • #29,562
So according to this article only the man who was detained at the house has been released. It doesn’t mention the main detained at the RR as being released.
It was reported everyone was released that was detained last night.

However, hopefully they’re able to get a match through dna they took from each person that was detained. To get a warrant to tow the Range Rover and search the house they must of had something good! It’s possible they were all released, because they didn’t have enough evidence to make an arrest. Not because they had nothing. Not sure if that makes sense! Trying to stay positive here!
 
  • #29,563
Why not just keep the yellow police tape around the house?
Because police tape means Do Not Cross, We Mean It. When that no longer applies, the tape is taken down. So family can enter the home, etc.

If you leave up police tape that people are routinely crossing, then it no longer means Do Not Cross, it means Ignore this Tape
 
  • #29,564
My main query......what is this distracting us from? It seems like a 3 ring circus. Why the top priority when millions of missing with a tiny fraction, if even that, of coverage. What is the TRUTH??
NG is the mother of a known tv news host. Why begrudge NG's missing because of the fact that millions of others are also missing. In my opinion, if it brings awareness to how quickly all of us can face an abduction or murder. And if it helps LE to develop better methods to catch an abduction earlier and bring them home in days rather than weeks, it's worth the coverage. I don't see a 3-ring circus, outside of social media. JMO
 
  • #29,565
I don't know what the solve rate is for abductions, but I suspect it's quite low. He's dealing with the high likelihood that either she died before she left the house or died shortly afterwards, and her body was left somewhere. This is a vast area with lots of places to leave a body. My opinion is that her body will never be found. I'm sorry to say that, because I know that many here are aching for her return.

If he suspects this, or in fact knows this, he's looking at years of unrewarding, dogged work, chasing thousands of leads. This is the rest of his career frankly and it will never leave him. His entire career will be judged, harshly, by the lack of results and failure to deliver an outcome people want. Who knows if he'll be able to identify suspects who can be prosecuted.

I'm sure it's not a case that he welcomed or wanted. It's not going be a positive outcome or a satisfying end to his career. It's going to be depressing and demoralizing for all.
To be fair, his career has been rocky from the start IMO. It's not just this case he will be judged on, though this case will definitely be huge.
 
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  • #29,567
Is it possible that one of the three detained/released last night is the person caught on NG’s camera?
 
  • #29,568
I don’t find it strange at all. IMO NG was abducted from her home, likely transported in a vehicle. Large ground searches in this case are not effective. You can’t clear thousands of square miles without a target. The investigation is on digital evidence, dna, surveillance, vehicles , developing POI, and of course identifying the suspect(s). They don’t need community volunteers out searching either. No way. If a ground search is needed , LE will utilize their trusted and experienced SAR teams that know how to properly ground search, document and alert to evidence or human remains.

I also don’t think PC’s are needed right now. Definitely not routinely at this stage. The FBI released the video of the suspect. That’s the focus along with the date ranges LE is asking area residents to think back on and to review their own home security video. IMO
The strange things are why do you remove and 84 yr old woman from her home and what do you do with her? Somewhere I read - among all the comments everywhere - that a former FBI experienced agent said the abduction appeared to be staged. Staged well after she was abducted? Staged by who? Why staged? Just an interesting perspective. Not much else to consider right now.
 
  • #29,569
So the sheriff has come out today and said that the person pulled over in the Range Rover *was* their primary suspect. It was clear from the video I saw that this guy was definitely NOT the same build as "front door guy". Now it's possible he was the one who broke in the back door....but... what if the *vehicle* is why they think this is their guy (car's wifi pinging cell towers or such)? The Range Rover had just been purchased in the last 2 days....and the ad is still around showing that it was for sale at MG Motors on Oracle Rd. for $17,995. So...couldn't the owner of MG Motors (who looks like he fits the description of the front door guy and has similar facial features) be the true suspect since he would have had possession of the car 2 weeks ago?
MOO—
What you’re saying makes sense, but I don’t think he was the main suspect just because of the car. BE mentioned that he believed this lead was someone who they had been surveilling already.
 
  • #29,570
How does the pool come into play?
We don't know how the pool was serviced in the past, at least I've never seen a reference to it; however, we do know (via the CNN article I posted earlier in the thread) that the company providing the recent service was there for their first time. NG's house was apparently new to them and their service route (starting with this most recent visit).
 
  • #29,571
He sounded frustrated from the very first presser. As I recall, he made a comment about the media/reporters calling him all night and said “you’re driving me crazy.” If he’s exhausted why not appoint a PIO to handle the media and press conferences? JMHO
He sounds like he is struggling with the job. Leadership during a high profile, high stress situation is not easy.

He cannot delegate? Wants to be in control and in charge of everything? Has trouble setting boundaries, lets the reporters "drive him crazy."

Likes the limelight, keeps holding press conferences, but then complains about all the work. His comments seem more like stream of consciousness, rather than well thought out strategic communication.
 
  • #29,572
Doesn't she walk with a cane? So cane in one hand and purse in the other. Possible.
Sounds like she had an App to control the garage door, likely gave family access to it as well. The App is how they knew the garage door timing imo. Usually, you would open the door with the App (some have sensors for cars and it auto opens for the vehicle) and you would close the door with the wall button near the interior entry door. Easy, quick. Avoids the 3 steps and curved path at the front entrance in the dark.
 
  • #29,573
84 year old woman with mobility and health issues getting dropped off 120 seconds from time garage door opened by family members is a red flag. I truly believe something happened to Nancy by someone super close to her that she recently interacted with on 1/31/26. Based on all presented in media, it just appears to me the suspect at house tampering with the cameras is an aftermath to coverup what happened to Nancy prior to 2/1/26.
every time I hear about her not making it home or on the way in, etc. have the same question: why is there blood on the front walk?
 
  • #29,574
So have the kidnappers given up trying to get paid and stopped demanding ransom money? And how about the bitcoin man and his information on who the kidnapper is? Have these two just disappeared into the ether no longer to be heard from? Too many questions and no answers.......
There will be more communications, IMO.
 
  • #29,575
Sounds like she had an App to control the garage door, likely gave family access to it as well. The App is how they knew the garage door timing imo. Usually, you would open the door with the App (some have sensors for cars and it auto opens for the vehicle) and you would close the door with the wall button near the interior entry door. Easy, quick. Avoids the 3 steps and curved path at the front entrance in the dark.
Exactly + purse on shoulder + cane - it's probably easier to go in that way then front door . ETA : I am legitimately confused as to why using the garage door as a main entry is seen as unusual in general or in this case. JMO
 
  • #29,576
Many elderly people with mobility issues struggle with steps..especially if they use a cane. I believe there are a few steps she would have to walk down if she used the front door.
I agree. I hope we can put this issue to bed. Entry and exit through the garage seems sensible for someone with mobility issues, IMO. I'll explain why.

The route through the garage offers sure footing. The floor is even. The steps into the house from the garage are likely utilitarian, made of concrete or wood, and therefore flat. Electric or electronic doors make them easy to operate. In my opinion, a garage with electronic controls on the doors would be the main entry point for NG. It would offer the surest footing and ease.

The front door route is more demanding. The front walkway is beautiful. Nancy probably used often until a few years ago. It has stairs in 2 places, however. You can see in the Google Streetview images below, a black railing was added to the middle of the lower stairs between 2022 and last November. The addition of a railing indicates Nancy needed more assistance with steps in recent years.

Using the front walkway requires navigating two steps closer to the driveway and another step up into the alcove at the front door. The walkway has an upper section that is brick and the lower section that is stone. The screenshot from last fall highlights the unevenness of the stone section between the driveway and stairs. It appears to be cobbles, IMO, like the surrounding landscaping. A cobble walkway is far more uneven than brick.

In my experience, people with mobility issues prefer a hardpacked or paved surface to an uneven one. Relatives who rely on canes approach brick walkways with caution. I don't think they'd even attempt to negotiate a cobble one.

While the driveway is dirt instead of paved, it is hardpacked and easy to maintain. Both the front door/walkway route and the garage route require using the driveway. The front walk ends at the driveway, not at the street. What appears like it may be a mailbox at the end of the walk in the Nest video is actually the post of the black railing on the steps between the upper and lower sections of the walkway. The front door/walkway route to a waiting car or to the mailbox requires more walking on the driveway than the garage route does.

In summary, my opinion is that the garage route offers the safest and easiest access for someone like NG. My opinion
supports what the family member reported Nancy did on January 31st. The sheriff confirmed the garage door opened at 9:48 and closed at 9:50. The facts, the timeline of occurrences at NG's house that night, have been established by law enforcement based on evidence and analysis.

I hope this comparison of two routes helps those with doubts to understand that common sense supports the evidence established by law enforcement here. Practical analysis makes it reasonable and likely she did, and the investigation establishes she did.


Here's the screenshot of Streetview from Nov. 2025. Note there is a black railing in the middle of the lower set of stairs and the unevenness of the cobble section of the walkway.
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The screenshot from Streetview in March 2022 is below. Note the two sets of stairs: by the front entrance and halfway down the walkway toward the driveway.
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ETA: eliminating bad breaks and typo
 
  • #29,577
I don't think we know definitively that no one paid a ransom. As far as I know, that hasn't been officially disclosed. I think all we really know is that there was no (or very little) activity on the bitcoin account listed in the original ransom demand that Harvey Levin and a couple other news outlets received. We are not privy to whether the second letter denoted another form/method of payment, or if another communication altogether was sent more privately that requested another form/method of payment.

We should not assume that a ransom wasn't paid, that proof of life wasn't given, that proof of life was overtly asked for, or that those two ransom emails that the FBI are treating as authentic (or almost certainly authentic according to Harvey Levin and Mark Geragos on the TMZ podcast posted earlier today) are the only communications received.

We do know that someone may have recently purchased a luxury SUV.

JMO.
 
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  • #29,578
Good points. I wonder why her pacemaker did not send an alert at the time she was awakened by masked armed strangers. My husband has a pacemaker and it sends data every night but it also has triggers setup to alert doctors if heart rate goes to high or too low. Certainly it would have spiked if she woke up. Maybe someone spiked her drink at dinner to make sure she slept soundly.
It did spike at 2am, but as explained on news recently, the spike could have also been the device was programmed to check in once a day to make certain that it was communicating.
“A pacemaker not only has the ability to create a heartbeat, triggering a heart to beat, but it’s also a sophisticated monitor of the patient’s heart rhythm, and a pacemaker is programmed to check in once a day, just to check in with its communication device and then ultimately the app that monitors it once a day,” he explained.
MSN
 
  • #29,579
The strange things are why do you remove and 84 yr old woman from her home and what do you do with her? Somewhere I read - among all the comments everywhere - that a former FBI experienced agent said the abduction appeared to be staged. Staged well after she was abducted? Staged by who? Why staged? Just an interesting perspective. Not much else to consider right now.
IMO they are saying staged by the last people to have been with NG. And yes, I could go down that path and even did kinda firmly in the beginning. But I have backed off thinking that because it just went too far with the weird ransom stuff.

Who knows, maybe the staging grew legs from afar. An elderly lady is missing who has a famous daughter. Something clicks with an unknown grifter/opportunist.

It's just all weird. Doesn't neatly fit into a box.

I still think it's someone in her orbit which could include family but at this particular moment I'm not leaning toward it being family.

All MOO
 
  • #29,580
Is it possible that one of the three detained/released last night is the person caught on NG’s camera?
Certainly it’s possible, as well as millions of other people that are of similar build and height.
 

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