• #29,701
Brian Entin is the MVP boots on the ground. I trust and like him. He got my attention with his outstanding, respectful and reliable coverage of the horrid Gabby Petito case. I was relieved when he started covering NG’s case. IMO

 
  • #29,702
She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.
I mean if she is of sound mind she is an adult entitled to make decisions that may not always be considered by others to be in her best interest, just like the rest of us do I presume (I know this is true of me and many I know) JMO
 
  • #29,703
She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.

I was referring to the card on Nancy Guthrie's door.


(In my state the officers or if she was transported medical staff would be the reporters, since she was a vulnerable elderly living by herself, to check on her.)

All imo
 
  • #29,704
If LE is interested in a certain vehicle, wouldn’t registration be one of the first things they’d check out? If the vehicle was newly purchased, I’d think a very recent date on the registration would indicate that. In fact they’d likely have access to the entire life history of ownership.
JMO
It's possible they only have a make and model, and anything dodgy/unverifiable about a vehicle like that would trigger a police operation.

If used in the crime, perps may have gone to great lengths to conceal their connection to the vehicle.
 
  • #29,705
I wonder when we can expect lab results from last night’s raid…
 
  • #29,706
I wonder when we can expect lab results from last night’s raid…
Probably soon since it appears most if not all reporters have signed off for the night
 
  • #29,707
I wonder when we can expect lab results from last night’s raid…
If the rest of the investigation is anything to go by, then, to paraphrase a certain someone, it could be days, could be months, could be years..
 
  • #29,708
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
 
  • #29,709
It's possible they only have a make and model, and anything dodgy/unverifiable about a vehicle like that would trigger a police operation.

If used in the crime, perps may have gone to great lengths to conceal themselves.

I’m referring to the Range Rover towed from the Culver’s parking lot or the Range Rover on the sales lot, if ownership changed within the past few days. True though, who owns the vehicle isn’t necessarily the driver. Regardless we don’t know if it was the vehicle or the registered owner who LE was interested in pursuing.

“Officials have not publicly said who owns the SUV or why it was taken, including whether or not the activity is linked to the search for 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of Today show host Savannah Guthrie.”
 
  • #29,710
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
I hope they are leaning toward something then. Not an encouraging statement.
 
  • #29,711
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
This makes me worried. I hope there are some solid leads from submitted tips to be followed. MOO
 
  • #29,712
I hope they are leaning toward something then. Not an encouraging statement.
From the ‘article’: continue to focus on other leads and new additional leads
 
  • #29,713
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
I think this makes the most sense to me
 
  • #29,714
I had been wondering if the pacemaker could still be transmitting a signal. I'm fairly certain the hospice facility or the funeral home disabled my mom's when she passed away. I'm holding on to hope for Nancy!
Just my opinion from personal experience
 
  • #29,715
Why didn’t she have a life alert device?
I have a family member who is elderly, disabled, and walks with a cane. She lives alone, and even after falling and not being able to get back up unassisted, and spending many hours on the floor trying to get to where she left her phone (the police needed to break down the door to get to her), insists that she's not "that old" and doesn't need a life alert device

I think another reason why the older ones insist that they don't need the medical life alert device is the cost.

There's the cost of purchasing the medical alert device and then there is the monthly monitoring service fee for the device.

And the same thing with a home security system such as ADT. There's the installation cost and the monthly monitoring service fee for the home security system.

Believe me, the older ones are frugal when it comes to money. If they feel they don't need something, they certainty won't spend their money on it.
 
  • #29,716
Maybe something on a tether where applicable? IDK
I believe the “sniffer” is a boosted Bluetooth receiver for NG’s specific encrypted pacemaker. I really hope this finds her alive. Hope always!
 
  • #29,717
I believe the “sniffer” is a boosted Bluetooth receiver for NG’s specific encrypted pacemaker. I really hope this finds her alive.
Would that only work in an open environment or would that work if say she was in a housed/enclosed residence? Forgive my ignorance. TIA. MOO
 
  • #29,718
I’m referring to the Range Rover towed from the Culver’s parking lot or the Range Rover on the sales lot, if ownership changed within the past few days. True though, who owns the vehicle isn’t necessarily the driver. Regardless we don’t know if it was the vehicle or the registered owner who LE was interested in pursuing.

“Officials have not publicly said who owns the SUV or why it was taken, including whether or not the activity is linked to the search for 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of Today show host Savannah Guthrie.”
It's clear as mud.

However, I do believe police will have been combing footage from doorbell/surveillance cameras, looking closely at the route of any vehicle driving into or out of that part of the city that night.

Unlike other cases, in a kidnapping they want especially to track where any vehicle seen near NG's home went, since it would have taken Nancy there.

The fact they've seized the RR vehicle indicates to me they believe it might be associated with the crime, just not by that driver.

JMO
 
  • #29,719
So we have now gone from two nights of FBI raids to maybe we'll find Nancy in a few hours or maybe it will be several years.

“Maybe it’s an hour from now,” Nanos told The New York Times Friday. “Maybe it’s weeks or months or years from now. But we won’t quit. We’re going to find Nancy. We’re going to find this guy.”

It's truly disheartening to think it may be years before Nancy Guthrie is found. Sheriff Nanos shouldn't sound so resigned already. While it's realistic to acknowledge she may not be alive, his public statements should prioritize hope and determination. I wish he'd been more reassuring to the family and the public that every effort will continue until she's brought back home. MOO
 
  • #29,720
Would that only work in an open environment or would that work if say she was in a housed/enclosed residence? Forgive my ignorance. TIA. MOO
No worries. There are no insignificant questions at least for me. The “sniffer” (I think) would replicate her own monitoring device. (I.e. IPhone, IWatch). NG’s pacemaker has its own encrypted language to feed info to whatever monitoring device she used, maybe both a watch and phone. If it that encrypted language could be replicated, cloned it could …“sniff”, perhaps with a boosted Bluetooth passed along in LE or FBI phones could find her. Alive or otherwise, because a pacemaker’s battery lasts 7 yrs average and continues until the pacemaker battery dies or is surgically removed. Hope this is helpful to you, others and LE.
 
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