AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Calcano]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022860424878694497

Does it not seem a little unwise on their part to make this public?

 

[Bluewing3102]

Anyone wonder if this signal sniffer is a ploy to get a criminal to move the body?

Theoretically it could work but LE
has no clue where to even search and it wouldn't be very time/cost effective to fly around aimlessly trying to stay within 50 ft of the ground. I'd imagine whoever committed this crime didn't know NG had a pacemaker, but now they're hearing news that it can possibly be "located".

Perhaps they throw out some news that there's a method to locate the pacemaker to make the suspect panic.

JMO

 

[Cedars]

My understanding was that the RR has been under the ownership of the car dealership since before the incident at Ms Guthrie's took place.

Could still have been taken off the lot for a test drive one night...

 

[m00c0w]

This was a federal warrant, not a state warrant. What I said was that because this was a federal warrant ordered by a federal judge for a federal crime that pertains to a federal statute that this case now has federal jurisdiction. Which then means that the FBI leads this case by definition. Period. There is no ambiguity in that. No malicious usurpation. No games being played. No relevant IAVCA qualifiers.

It is via Constitutional fiat.

JMO.

Just your opinion. So we’re clear.

The congressionally passed law is equally clear on the matter. I’m not sure what is confusing. FBI obtaining a federal search warrant that we know nothing about does not in any way, by default, mean that the FBI has taken over an investigation. They have had federal jurisdiction since the Sheriff asked for assistance. They would not be able to function otherwise. I can only keep posting the same law that this all predicated on so many times.

Not my opinion. Literal law. 28 USC 530C.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

IMO the real question here for us at WS is the motive.
It seems highly unlikely that NG willingly answered the door. For a time I did think if she knew the person, this may be the case. However, since the Nest footage, I don't believe this to be true.
However, what I can't fathom is this - if NG had passed away during this incident from a medical condition - why didn't the peeps leave her there, to be found as a crime gone wrong? The hope of ransom?
The above makes me think that NG could've been alive when she left the property. However, I can't work out WHY they took her. It leads more and more to some sort of hostage/demand situation which may have gone wrong.

 

[NewYork625]

Could still have been taken off the lot for a test drive one night...

That's pretty late for a customer to take a test drive, but maybe someone else had access to the key?

 

[ilgirl]

I found this about the sniffer technology. I think it could work in this case, but they probably need a focused area. JMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022893699978641733

 

[Cedars]

That's pretty late for a customer to take a test drive, but maybe someone else had access to the key?

Yes, I should have written "test drive", ie not legit...

Just a possibility.

 

[NewYork625]

Yes, I should have written "test drive", ie not legit...

Just a possibility.

I did wonder if you meant it that way. It does seem like a possibility.

 

[Normancita]

I am surprised by the lack of searching. There are three possibilities, as far as I know.

1) there is a body somewhere outdoors which has not attracted any attention in the usual ways, and it was transported and left without being noticed. I understand the terrain; I live somewhere not unlike Tucson. But even so, I could not guarantee that I could do such a thing with no hikers, no side by side atv or dirtbike users, etc catching me at some point in the act or discovering this shortly thereafter.

2) there is a body in a structure somewhere which has attracted no attention. This is doable imo, as seen in other cases, but requires some luck or some very specific circumstances.

3) there is a living 84 year old woman somewhere with a substantial reward associated with noticing her, and no one has noticed.

#2 is my biggest concern.

There are quite a few “snowbird” houses in NG’s neighborhood and general area. Many of them sit empty for part of the year and some have small sheds in the backyard.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

It seems highly unlikely that NG willingly answered the door. For a time I did think if she knew the person, this may be the case. However, since the Nest footage, I don't believe this to be true.

I agree.

When the Sheriff was quoted earlier as saying NG was "taken from her bed", and then he walked that back by saying he didn't actually know if she was literally in her bed or not, that sounds to me like he is confirming that she didn't come to the door.

Man, I just wish that some of her neighbors were night owls who were up at 2am gazing out their windows or just arriving home at 2am and saw whatever as they drove past. Of course maybe someone did and reported to LE, but nothing seems to have come of it so far. MOO

 

[Lalalacasbah]

This is all starting to feel like one big giant game being played on LE and the media.

Either that, or cat and mouse and the perp is one step ahead every time.

Two SWAT events and nothing.

All within the general area of Tucson... maybe LE have a general geographic area in mind hence the sniffer/helicopter strategy?

It seems like they are so close and know they're close but then keep getting either outsmarted or missing one thing to get the person(s).

I am hoping something happens the next few days.

 

[NewYork625]

I agree.

When the Sheriff was quoted earlier as saying NG was "taken from her bed", and then he walked that back by saying he didn't actually know if she was literally in her bed or not, that sounds to me like he is confirming that she didn't come to the door.

Man, I just wish that some of her neighbors were night owls who were up at 2am gazing out their windows or just arriving home at 2am and saw whatever as they drove past. Of course maybe someone did and reported to LE, but nothing seems to have come of it so far. MOO

Hard to imagine a woman her age who walks with a cane putting up much of a fight against the intruder(s), but I have wondered if she went out the back door only to be chased back in. It's fairly common for older people to have trouble sleeping at night.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Maybe the perp set up the people in the house that was raided last night. Possibly knows the RR guy. Maybe bought a burner phone and reconned NG house at night with that then drove to RR guys house and dropped off the burner phone in a bush somewhere. Next day he picks it up and turns off the phone. He never brings his personal phone with him. Rinse and repeat several times.

That would be pretty cunning but if the ransom letter was written by the perp it would make sense. He’d be tech savvy enough to think of that. LE sees the ip address connection between the two homes and figures they have their suspect.

I mean they had to be sure they had strong evidence to go into that house and tow the RR. The only other thing I can think of is the RR bears a striking resemblance to the actual perp.

 

[SlimPickens]

Just your opinion. So we’re clear.

The congressionally passed law is equally clear on the matter. I’m not sure what is confusing. FBI obtaining a federal search warrant that we know nothing about does not in any way, by default, mean that the FBI has taken over an investigation. They have had federal jurisdiction since the Sheriff asked for assistance. They would not be able to function otherwise. I can only keep posting the same law that this all predicated on so many times.

Not my opinion. Literal law. 28 USC 530C.

Again, the Sheriff asked for assistance. The FBI assisted. In the course of that assistance, the FBI discovered that elements existed that make this crime a violation of a federal statute or statutes, which then supersedes state laws for similar crimes. That means, by definition, that federal jurisdiction now applies and now leads. A federal judge issuing a federal warrant explicitly confirms that.

The law you reference is no longer germane to this case (if it was applied), and the only way it would be again (if it was used) is if or when federal jurisdiction is surrendered because of, for example, the FBI upon further investigation could not confirm, to a prosecutable degree, one or more elements that established federal jurisdiction. They would then 'give it back' to the state in which the crime occurred for the state to move forward (if the state has a similar statute).

The FBI, if requested again, would then assist.

JMO.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I found this about the sniffer technology. I think it could work in this case, but they probably need a focused area. JMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022893699978641733

Wait -- he says you have to be within 50 feet.

Is there some reason technically that this only works vertically?

Because with all the challenges of flying anything aerially that low, why not use the same sniffer device in a vehicle driving each street slowly? Wouldn't 50 feet from the road reach most buildings? Maybe not backyard sheds, I guess... MOO

 

[ab01]

At this point I really hope the unidentified DNA they have from inside NG residence is from the perpetrator.

I say that bc the longer this drags on I think it's their best piece of evidence and their best hope of solving this case.

The obvious leads of suspicious vehicle, random individuals that might fit the profile and close proximity seem to have all been dead ends.

The only other way I could entertain a possible connection is via video that has yet to be recovered via the other cameras on the property if those images even exist.

I think if this case is solved it's going to be via a lab. moo

 

[ilgirl]

Wait -- he says you have to be within 50 feet.

Is there some reason technically that this only works vertically?

Because with all the challenges of flyonh anything aerially that low, why not use the same sniffer device in a vehicle driving each street slowly? Wouldn't 50 feet from the road reach most buildings? Maybe not backyard sheds, I guess... MOO

Good questions. He doesn't say, but I wonder if searchers could even carry it along with a K-9 search or something like that. I hope the sheriff's department will do something like that (or all of the above if feasible).
Just my opinion.

 

[moonglow123]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: Sheriff says no arrests, none remain in custody after major operation

“Fox News has learned that a task force in Tucson, Arizona, is awaiting forensic results from a late-night operation Friday, miles from Nancy Guthrie's home.”

I’m sure it’s been shared, but, cautiously optimistic. MOO, it does seem like a possibility that the people from last night are involved. Seems like a possibility that they could be close to an arrest, but just need the DNA or otherwise evidence to seal their case. Speculation only though.

 

[ArabianLover]

Just my opinion here, but maybe all of this appearance of confusion with LE is because they are completely stumped and have resorted to this “sniffer scanner” technology. They get what they perceive as a “hit” and they raid that house, vehicle, etc. This could explain why none of what they’re doing is making any sense.