• #32,081
Just wanted to post of prayers to the family and I hope they find NG today. I hope the family can take time to heal after all of this is over. I can't imagine.
 
  • #32,082
Results of DNA testing should be back any minute now or it already came back. IMO, if we hear radio silence today it means that they're getting ready to move in on a suspect. Might see another SWAT raid tonight.

JMO
Results likely back and LE isn't releasing any information. I believe they are actively honing in and surveilling a suspect or suspects. JMO
 
  • #32,083
Results of DNA testing should be back any minute now or it already came back. IMO, if we hear radio silence today it means that they're getting ready to move in on a suspect. Might see another SWAT raid tonight.

JMO
Also, remeber when Laci Peterson's body washed up? LE had been following SP for weeks keeping tabs on him although "not a suspect" and as soon as her body washed up they caught him on the way to Mexico with dyed hair and gotee!!
 
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Maybe easier for the driver to drive up to the front door, but maybe not for mobility-impaired NG.

In addition to the steps she’d have to climb, it looks like there is a stone path she’d be walking on to get to those steps. The stone path looks appealing to the eye, but has an uneven surface which could be hazardous for one who is not sure-footed.
The garage likely had better light and a flatter, easier to walk on surface.

jmo

See pic: (from this link)

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All good points. I can see how it may be easier for Nancy vs the driver / SIL. Seems as though SIL probably dropped her off and waited/watched her go in. The stairs in the pic are a bit off tho - really not as steep as they appear because of the angle of pic - but apparently she was pretty frail in her age. I wonder if she ever took Ubers home and if they dropped her off on the other side to the garage. Too many questions that i am sure LE knows.
 
  • #32,085
Can someone copy all of the ransom notes in one post? And all of the Guthrie messages? Maybe we can all start to analyze the wording.
 
  • #32,086
Since everyone is noticing the movie quotes from the videos...

"Do the next right thing" is both a quote and climactic song from Frozen 2
Weird. Are they picking quotes from a suspect's social media public film list? It's a silly thought, but I'm stumped.
 
  • #32,087
Why do people think if the family pays the ransom money that the note writer will keep their word and give them information to recover Nancy? We’re talking about someone who is extorting a grieving family, whether or not they’re telling the truth. Money can’t buy morals.

I’ve said it before, but what if the FBI has advised the family that by paying the money, any leverage they have over the kidnapper to keep her alive is gone? If the FBI told me that it was a bigger statistical probability she would die if I paid, rather than if I didn’t pay, there is no way I’m paying the money, no matter how wealthy I am.
 
  • #32,088
Yes! IMO, there has been "something" that has led LE to induce SG to make this video. Some clandestine contact? Some maybe old cryptic post on Instagram., recently found? Some new communication saying he has NG and is willing to barter...something... I also thought SG looked more distraught. Weakened, almost like she was suffering from the guilt of the weight of all of this because, no matter what, she, herself, might blame her fame as a direct cause of the kidnaping of her mom. JMO
I agree that she looked quite distraught, but this one was taken closer up than the ones with her siblings.
 
  • #32,089
The problem with the Wal-Mart video is you have to have narrowed it down to a time frame OR an electronic receipt in the system where all of this was bought on one ticket.

THEN you can go find the video that corresponds
Lots of time and manpower spent on this case! I know, I know very obvious. Just saying…
I’m all for it, just adding it up, blown away!

I’d like to know what it costs all together, when the case is solved. AZ county, FBI, private experts, plus numerous people had to miss work ( SG, family, people who were investigated)
Much, much more. Experts who work on these cases are not cheap, but vital to the mission.

List of significant LE action to solve crime:
1. Reviving a non subscription camera feed( very time consuming). Cloud, lots of proprietary coding, several entities involved.
2. An army of FBI, including swat, doing raids, multiple interviews with detectives.
3. Searching Walmart camera feed to find perp images. Searching disguise clothing, gear, tools.
4. Ground searches, detectives and dogs, air flyover searches, body heat searches, pacemaker searches. Geofence phone searches. Tech searches of computers, home equipment. Searches of multiple homes.
5. Paragon genetic genealogy lab, getting close “ matches” distant relatives, doing family trees, a lot of expert time. Then when down to 2-3 people, long interviews, alibis etc.
6. Loads of very smart, very talented investigators, scientists, hoping for a break soon.

It just irks me that we taxpayers foot the bill for these investigations of creeps, and then keeping the preps safely in prison for life, meanwhile poor NG was taken against her will, she did not deserve that!

All JMO
 
  • #32,090
Can someone copy all of the ransom notes in one post? And all of the Guthrie messages? Maybe we can all start to analyze the wording.
They are probably in the media thread if you want to bring them here.
 
  • #32,091
I totally believe the ransom note writer has ask them to communicate in movie quotes. There is no other way to explain these bizarre movie quotes
You're on to something. That's highly plausible.
 
  • #32,092
Weird. Are they picking quotes from a suspect's social media public film list? It's a silly thought, but I'm stumped.
Do the next right thing?? Does that mean he reached out to do one right thing already? Do we still get the vibe she is asking for body back?
 
  • #32,093
Weird. Are they picking quotes from a suspect's social media public film list? It's a silly thought, but I'm stumped.
It’s not weird. I’d like all of the notes and all of the Guthrie messages to be posted in one post so we can begin to analyze. We could possibly help!
 
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IMO I feel that something very big is happening right now. I believe a lot of small pieces are starting to connect. I’m just LOST on why they haven’t identified this SAME person who wrote the last 3 ransom letters through the bitcom ID. BUT maybe they have…Each time Savannah speaks, I feel It’s intentional, purposeful and while it is cryptic to us, it has a LOT of meaning to the case. I’m sure strategists are working with her. She actually looked somewhat calm and positive, exhausted and drained also. 🙏🏼 Some of her messages may have hidden messages to the captor’s.
IMO after Friday night's SWAT raid and with then newest DNA info that we aren't privy to, LE and FBI are focused on particular people as the perpetrators.

IMO the Sheriff is intentionally releasing information to scare the perps in the hopes that the perps do something stupid. JMO
 
  • #32,096
I thought abduction for ransom was a federal crime, but maybe not. 🤔
I believe you're correct. Lindbergh Law, right?
IMO.
 
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Why do people think if the family pays the ransom money that the note writer will keep their word and give them information to recover Nancy? We’re talking about someone who is extorting a grieving family, whether or not they’re telling the truth. Money can’t buy morals.

I’ve said it before, but what if the FBI has advised the family that by paying the money, any leverage they have over the kidnapper to keep her alive is gone? If the FBI told me that it was a bigger statistical probability she would die if I paid, rather than if I didn’t pay, there is no way I’m paying the money, no matter how wealthy I am.
Agree. It's pretty hard to trust someone when the only knowledge you have about them is their willingness to extort, which is a crime. Same as terrorism. How do you negotiate with someone who isnt playing by the rules? Kinda hard.
 
  • #32,099
It’s not weird. I’d like all of the notes and all of the Guthrie messages to be posted in one post so we can begin to analyze. We could possibly help!
We don’t have the notes, they are not public.
 
  • #32,100
Why do people think if the family pays the ransom money that the note writer will keep their word and give them information to recover Nancy? We’re talking about someone who is extorting a grieving family, whether or not they’re telling the truth. Money can’t buy morals.

I’ve said it before, but what if the FBI has advised the family that by paying the money, any leverage they have over the kidnapper to keep her alive is gone? If the FBI told me that it was a bigger statistical probability she would die if I paid, rather than if I didn’t pay, there is no way I’m paying the money, no matter how wealthy I am.
IMO the family is doing whatever the experts in hostage negotiation in the FBI tell them to do. MOO
 

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