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100 percent. I can’t watch it. I’ve seen it 4 times. That’s enough. I can study images and videos from the chest down. His covered face and eyesare legitimately terrifying to me. Makes me sick to my
Stomach. I just scroll past quickly. I agree with you, and I have no idea why this person did what they did. Prayers for Nancy and family
It's disheartening to watch the video, knowing that while Porch Guy's fiddling with Lantana, a helpless woman is inside, unaware her life is about to change forever.
 
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Canvass of gun stores done 'several days ago'​

Kelly O'Donnell'Donnell
Kelly O'DonnellKelly O’Donnell is Chief Justice and National Affairs Correspondent for NBC News.
A federal law enforcement official said today that agents conducted a canvass of gun stores "several days ago" as part of the Nancy Guthrie investigation.

The official said that no canvass was done today. If a specific lead requires additional canvassing, it could be possible, the official noted.

"Things are still very fluid and we are out on many leads," the official said.

The federal official noted that this is part of the regular investigative process. The official further cautioned that too much public exposure or reporting on specific steps being taken by law enforcement "whether accurate or inaccurate, gives the perpetrator a window into the investigation. That's not helpful."
Call me crazy, but I think checking into gun stores isn’t very helpful. Most people who have guns, already have them. I doubt most criminals buy a gun right before committing a crime. Usually you have a gun you’re comfortable using and it’s not a last minute purchase. Totally my own opinion.

Edited to add— I’m grateful they’re checking into things though!
 
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I wonder if Nancy’s wallet was found in the house with all her credit and debit cards accounted for.
I don’t know about her credit/debit cards, but this older article says: (bbm)

“Nancy Guthrie's belongings, including her purse, wallet, cell phone, and vehicle were at her home. PCSD said she suffers from limited mobility and her medications that she needs are still inside of her house.”

 
  • #32,765
Still chilling ~ a week after its release. There's something very nonchalant and unconcerned in his behavior.
I think he's calm because he's got an accomplice inside handling NG. I mean the guy inside has the hard job and guy outside just has to disable the camera(s).
 
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Othram coming up in 10 minutes
I’m curious what you mean by that? My head is swimming at the moment I may be missing something.
 
  • #32,767
It's weird how, after attempting to bang the camera (it looks like), he turns around and appears to scan the bed on one side inside the entry area (which was all stones) before stepping down outside the entry area to grab the Lantana planted on one side (outside that little portico area). I wonder if he was communicating with someone who told him to go further out. Wish we knew whether they have audio.
Maybe he was looking for something there to block the camera or thinking that he could pry up one of those stones to smash it.

JMO
 
  • #32,768
i would pay the 50K to the "ransom" writer. they are spending likely millions on this case already, if it's a dead end that's fine. they will eventually identify the writer and prosecute him. it's worth it.
America has a long history of not paying ransom. They don't do it in most situations.
 
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Call me crazy, but I think checking into gun stores isn’t very helpful. Most people who have guns, already have them. I doubt most criminals buy a gun right before committing a crime. Usually you have a gun you’re comfortable using and it’s not a last minute purchase. Totally my own opinion.

Edited to add— I’m grateful they’re checking into things though!
Exactly what I thought as well… highly doubt the perp bought the gun recently…
 
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I think he's calm because he's got an accomplice inside handling NG. I mean the guy inside has the hard job and guy outside just has to disable the camera(s).
Are we sure there was someone inside with her?
If you’re already inside the house, why go up to the front door camera? Just block it and remove it from inside the front door so you aren’t seen by camera.
 
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I agree! I imagine SG is pondering if her Mom's global visibility from being a guest on her show may have something to do with this. Speaking of which, I wonder who's idea if was to showcase NG on SG's morning shows. Would the employer have come up with the idea? Of course, to the employer, it's all about ratings. IMO television personalities exhibiting older folks to the general public is as risky as letting them get to know your children on camera.
MOO
David Letterman used to have his Mom on the show, she was a big hit.
 
  • #32,773
Exactly what I thought as well… highly doubt the perp bought the gun recently…
Maybe they have some reason to believe it was purchased recently.

Jmo
 
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This gives me the creeps every time I watch it. Here’s what perplexes me— he knows there is a cam, which is why his head is down as he very slowly walks forward. Then he goes to use his gloved hand to block the camera while trying to remove it. That doesn’t work well, so he thinks a plant stems will help? I’m sure he didn’t want to get his face too close the camera while trying to exert the strength to break it. One would think there would be a lot of better ways to do this.

Just thinking about it, I wonder why he needed to go to the front door anyways. If he entered through the back door to get inside then he didn’t have to break this camera from the front. Before taking her out the front door, he could’ve placed something over that cam to break it without ever being seen.

How does he know there isn’t a silent alarm system in the house? You’d think in a neighborhood like that if you’re a stranger you have to think there might be an alarm system in place.

I think it’s a stranger to NG but not a stranger to somebody who did work in that house. And if that’s the case, what’s the motive? If it’s burglary why is he taking NG from the home?
 
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“That can triangulate exactly where Nancy is directly off of her pacemaker.”

Former NSA hacker tells OutFront about the “bluetooth sniffer” he created and shared with law enforcement to try to ping the signal on Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker.
 
  • #32,777
Maybe he was looking for something there to block the camera or thinking that he could pry up one of those stones to smash it.

JMO
I think that he WAS looking for something to block or smash the camera, but my point was about how he was moving about... it was like he was told to grab the plants beside the walkway, so he looked directly down to one side and didn't see any there and then was told to step down out of the walkway to grab the plants there. It was like he was following instructions as they were spoken aloud to him.
 
  • #32,778
Are we sure there was someone inside with her?
If you’re already inside the house, why go up to the front door camera? Just block it and remove it from inside the front door so you aren’t seen by camera.
I wondered this SAME thing. It makes no sense to me I can’t make sense of it. Unless the perps hadn’t been to the front door yet and dint know exactly where the camera was or if there even was a camera.
 
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I was out most of the day and it’s hard to keep up with the threads. I feel such a strong sense of sadness. They have not arrived at a motive? I just cannot imagine the pain. I wish there was a way for FBI to pay ransom when it is first asked for and then track down the perps. Surely they have the tools to find them now.
 
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Has anyone wondered why they made the helicopters searching for the pacemaker info public?? I feel the perp would immediately then remove the pacemaker from her body..
 

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