They could have a warrant. LE and the FBI use listening devices.DOUBTFUL. The fourth amendment protects against unreasonable search and seizures. A hidden listening device is considered a search and your home has the highest level of privacy protection. Your need a court warrant for starters. JMO
I think her whole family is going to have some serious PTSD over this, no matter the outcome.Yes, and it wouldn't be the first time they've done that ?
Was also considering an employee or a friend of one.
Still think it might have been someone Nancy knew by sight at least and they knew she saw them (botched robbery, maybe, but am still leaning towards planned abduction); so they took her !
A crime with a personal element.
How sickening -- and frightening for her !
There are some crimes that deserve the harshest penalties possible, and imo, kidnapping ranks right along with outright murder.
A survivor of an abduction might never be the same and at Nancy's age could cause her health to severely decline, even if released.
Still hoping she's alive !
Omo.
DOUBTFUL. The fourth amendment protects against unreasonable search and seizures. A hidden listening device is considered a search and your home has the highest level of privacy protection. Your need a court warrant for starters. JMO
Imagine normalcy after this? Imagine letting your kids go sleepover at a friend's. Imagine staying alone. This is going to generate a lot of trauma and I sincerely hope they all get the necessary help after.I think her whole family is going to have some serious PTSD over this, no matter the outcome.
How could Savannah and her team know what movie quotes were meaningful to a stranger/kidnapper?
BTW, Crime scene in not in Tucson. If it were, the Tucson police would be handling the case and not the Pima County Sheriff.2 miles in between neighborhoods in Tucson can make a huuuge difference. You can live in a $2M home and 2.5mi away is a bus stop where people are nodding out. It’s a weird place here![]()
But if you're innocent and inconvenienced and had nothing to do with it I can understand that. Put yourself in their shoes.
Tucson is a large “small town” and there is a high likelihood the owner of that car knew of Nancy around town. MOO of course.
I’m conflicted. As a mom I DO I feel a level of compassion for this mom but I’m also ok that mom is upset and son pissed. Anger can lead to saying things out loud that maybe shouldn’t be said and irrational behavior. Regardless if she’s involved or not, she’s rattled and IMO she does know what this is about. You don’t get a federal warrant dropped on your home for nothing. Please. I think watch and wait and see if anything comes of it. MOO
I know that. I am in NG’s neighborhood but we ALL say we live in Tucson, regardless of LE jurisdiction.BTW, Crime scene in not in Tucson. If it were, the Tucson police would be handling the case and not the Pima County Sheriff.
100% lesson learnedEvery day there’s a new “suspect” on social media in this case. First it was TC, then some bandmate, then some electrician, then a couple of randos, and now it’s the Range Rover driver. Tomorrow it’ll be someone else. None of this is coming from law enforcement.
My favorite part is when these influencers confidently accuse a specific person, rack up views, and then quietly delete the post the second it doesn’t pan out, as if the damage they caused just disappears.
I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.
Just be careful of this stuff.
Thanks for posting. This is interesting and what we all are saying. The Lantana guy is an amateur. And LE and FBI are hoping he's panicking. MOFormer FBI profiler thinks guy is clearly an amateur and in over his head.
Grusing does not believe the suspect in the Nancy Guthrie case is a sophisticated criminal, and believes that Savannah Guthrie's Sunday message was coached by FBI profilers with that in mind to try to get the suspect to turn himself in.
"I think he got in way over his head with whatever happened with Nancy, and they're hoping that he is panicking enough since his family and friends haven't turned him in," said Grusing. "They're appealing to him directly, like, ‘Look, guy, this is not going away, you just need to summon up the courage in any humanity you have left and do it.’"
Drawing on his decades of experience, Grusing noted the signs of the suspect's amateurishness. The suspect, who was already masked, kept turning his head away from the doorbell camera, and even attempted to obscure the camera's view with brush pulled from a front garden.
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Former FBI analyst believes Guthrie suspect is amateur criminal, Savannah's latest message tailored to him
Former FBI agent Jonny Grusing says he believes the FBI is playing on the Nancy Guthrie suspect's amateurism to get him to turn himself in after two weeks of searching.www.foxnews.com
I agree but Friday's events seemed too grand for absolutely nothing.Every day there’s a new “suspect” on social media in this case. First it was TC, then some bandmate, then some electrician, then a couple of randos, and now it’s the Range Rover driver. Tomorrow it’ll be someone else. None of this is coming from law enforcement.
My favorite part is when these influencers confidently accuse a specific person, rack up views, and then quietly delete the post the second it doesn’t pan out, as if the damage they caused just disappears.
I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.
Just be careful with this stuff.
Leverage. jmoI wonder if the reason LE thinks the person is local is because NG recognized and man and he decided that she would turn him in if he left without her. Why else would you take a barely mobile older person with you?
I’m in the same area as NG and the raid from a few nights ago and I had no idea that I live within walking distance of Savannah Guthrie’s mother’s house. Neither did a few of my coworkers who live in the general area.Tucson is a large “small town” and there is a high likelihood the owner of that car knew of Nancy around town. MOO of course.
How'd they get to 40 people? My best guess is it's from the one known piece of identifiable evidence - perhaps there were 40 backpacks sold to men at Walmarts in the region within the last x months. IMO.