• #32,621
I’m conflicted. As a mom I DO I feel a level of compassion for this mom but I’m also ok that mom is pissed. Anger can lead to saying things out loud that maybe shouldn’t be said and irrational behavior. Regardless if she’s involved or not, she’s rattled and IMO she does know what this is about. You don’t get a federal warrant dropped on your home for nothing. Please. I think watch and wait and see if anything comes of it. MOO
Agree, a federal search warrant is pretty big. They had pretty solid belief that someone in that home was involved in this crime, enough so for a judge to sign off on it. I'm just not willing to write them off as suspects yet. Do feel bad for the mom if she's not involved, though.
 
  • #32,622
I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.

Indeed, and in my experience the who rarely turns out to be as interesting as the why and how anyway.

JMO.
 
  • #32,623
The sheriff revealed that his brother, who was in hospice, died on February 2, just one day after Nancy was reported missing, a news outlet reported on Sunday, February 15.

The local authority made the revelation while firing back at "haters" who questioned how his department had handled the investigation, pushing back on claims that the crime scene was cleared too early.

"My officers were there for almost 20 hours, and they processed their scene, got it done, and brought in all the evidence," he said. "Then the FBI came and did their thing."
 
  • #32,624
Agree, a federal search warrant is pretty big. They had pretty solid belief that someone in that home was involved in this crime, enough so for a judge to sign off on it. I'm just not willing to write them off as suspects yet. Do feel bad for the mom if she's not involved, though.
I agree. I also feel terrible for the poor mom who had to stay with a neighbor. The mom wasn’t the person who was detained and is now quoted as “pissed” their house was raided with a federal warrant. My side-eye was about the owner of the vehicle who made the statement, and only that person.
 
  • #32,625
Every day there’s a new “suspect” on social media in this case. First it was TC, then some bandmate, then some electrician, then a couple of randos, and now it’s the Range Rover driver. Tomorrow it’ll be someone else. None of this is coming from law enforcement.

My favorite part is when these influencers confidently accuse a specific person, rack up views, and then quietly delete the post the second it doesn’t pan out, as if the damage they caused just disappears.

I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.

Just be careful with this stuff.

AB still has her video up with the thumbnail picture that states....
Son-in-law "Prime Suspect"

They were just beginning their investigation when AB leaked this information to the world.

There is a reason that LE do not name potential persons of interest and/or POI's until they are ready. It could not only harm the investigation but the victim and potentially innocent people.

And sad to say, even though TC has been cleared there will always be those who continue to think and/or accuse him of being involved thanks in huge part to AB.
 
  • #32,626
earlier today I saw a post with a Ring or Nest Cam video from a porch...it was posted to The Neighborhood App ... it was of a male, with dark hair and beard and he did not have a mask or head covered. He was rummaging through the mail, skulking at the window .... does anyone have a link for that video
I for some reason think this person was said to have been within 1.5 miles of Nancy home

I have gone back through what threads I think I read today and I can't find it.
Check the media thread for this case. Hopefully all official videos have been posted there.
 
  • #32,627
Check the media thread for this case. Hopefully all official videos have been posted there.
I looked and I can't find it ... if anyone else sees it please repost.
 
  • #32,628
How could Savannah and her team know what movie quotes were meaningful to a stranger/kidnapper?
Maybe by what was written in the ransom notes? If the quotes were specific, then they applied to the notes, IMO.
 
  • #32,629
Thanks for posting. This is interesting and what we all are saying. The Lantana guy is an amateur. And LE and FBI are hoping he's panicking. MO
Exactly what I said earlier. This was an unsophisticated criminal and the crime escalated.
 
  • #32,630
Tucson is a large city. More populous than Atlanta, or Albuquerque, or Kansas City. Double that population if you count the entire metropolitan area. There’s nothing small about it imo.
Nope. Atlanta Metro area over 5 million to Tucson Metro area about 1 million.


 
  • #32,631
Every day there’s a new “suspect” on social media in this case. First it was TC, then some bandmate, then some electrician, then a couple of randos, and now it’s the Range Rover driver. Tomorrow it’ll be someone else. None of this is coming from law enforcement.

My favorite part is when these influencers confidently accuse a specific person, rack up views, and then quietly delete the post the second it doesn’t pan out, as if the damage they caused just disappears.

I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.

Just be careful with this stuff.

There was good reason to suspect RR guy... house SWATTED and the way vehicle was treated and taken made it appear they were really onto something. I mean, I'm not giving up on this direction just because arrests haven't been made...yet.
 
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If the family has been cleared does that mean that they know who it is? It’s a reverse from everyone is considered a suspect. How can you clear anyone if you don’t know who the suspect is?
 
  • #32,634
Until the sheriff got the dna results back Imo he wasn't sure about clearing the family.
 
  • #32,635
If the family has been cleared does that mean that they know who it is? It’s a reverse from everyone is considered a suspect. How can you clear anyone if you don’t know who the suspect is?
I don’t really take anything this sheriff says at face value, who knows what he meant.
 
  • #32,636
The sheriff revealed that his brother, who was in hospice, died on February 2, just one day after Nancy was reported missing, a news outlet reported on Sunday, February 15.

The local authority made the revelation while firing back at "haters" who questioned how his department had handled the investigation, pushing back on claims that the crime scene was cleared too early.

"My officers were there for almost 20 hours, and they processed their scene, got it done, and brought in all the evidence," he said. "Then the FBI came and did their thing."
So the sheriff was working on the Nancy Guthrie/Savannah Guthrie case… arguably the biggest case of his career! Then his own brother dies, then he went to a division 1 basketball game sitting in the front row all within days of each other? Hmm , I’m wondering where his priorities lie ? I’m asking for a friend
 
  • #32,637
The sheriff revealed that his brother, who was in hospice, died on February 2, just one day after Nancy was reported missing, a news outlet reported on Sunday, February 15.

The local authority made the revelation while firing back at "haters" who questioned how his department had handled the investigation, pushing back on claims that the crime scene was cleared too early.

"My officers were there for almost 20 hours, and they processed their scene, got it done, and brought in all the evidence," he said. "Then the FBI came and did their thing."
Poor man. His brother and then this high profile case in less than 48 hrs . That’s a lot for anyone . It’s not said enough the sacrifices that are made by LE. I think if the sheriff and his bro were close it may have been helpful for him in the beginning of this case and given him something else to focus time and energy on. Him being at the game and the lack of conferences could have been him trying to quietly and privately remove himself from the case to process his grief. Idk, I’m not judging him. Truly, grief is different for everyone. Regardless, condolences to the sheriff and his family.
 
  • #32,638
I looked and I can't find it ... if anyone else sees it please repost.

Hiya, Sessiebo posted that info but I see it was deleted - message her to get link...
 
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I don't know, but it bugs me, I do hope there is some smart strategy to it. jmo
The whole “movie quote” thing, I think, is real. The question is, why?

Here is a suggestion: I think it’s fair to say that the FBI is coaching the family on what to say in these videos. They are extremely calculated to achieve the desired result in the given circumstance, meaning that each one is directed toward the specific situation/time in the abduction.

If that’s so, it could mean that the movies in question also use specific wording geared to achieve desired result in a similar circumstance. Or, perhaps there is internal evidence that our perp is a movie watcher. A third scenario is that there is coding involved. I see all three as possibilities.
 

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