AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Roadette]

Agree, a federal search warrant is pretty big. They had pretty solid belief that someone in that home was involved in this crime, enough so for a judge to sign off on it. I'm just not willing to write them off as suspects yet. Do feel bad for the mom if she's not involved, though.

I agree. I also feel terrible for the poor mom who had to stay with a neighbor. The mom wasn’t the person who was detained and is now quoted as “pissed” their house was raided with a federal warrant. My side-eye was about the owner of the vehicle who made the statement, and only that person.

 

[shonyakay]

Every day there’s a new “suspect” on social media in this case. First it was TC, then some bandmate, then some electrician, then a couple of randos, and now it’s the Range Rover driver. Tomorrow it’ll be someone else. None of this is coming from law enforcement.

My favorite part is when these influencers confidently accuse a specific person, rack up views, and then quietly delete the post the second it doesn’t pan out, as if the damage they caused just disappears.

I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.

Just be careful with this stuff.

AB still has her video up with the thumbnail picture that states....
Son-in-law "Prime Suspect"

They were just beginning their investigation when AB leaked this information to the world.

There is a reason that LE do not name potential persons of interest and/or POI's until they are ready. It could not only harm the investigation but the victim and potentially innocent people.

And sad to say, even though TC has been cleared there will always be those who continue to think and/or accuse him of being involved thanks in huge part to AB.

 

[Ghostwheel]

How could Savannah and her team know what movie quotes were meaningful to a stranger/kidnapper?

Maybe by what was written in the ransom notes? If the quotes were specific, then they applied to the notes, IMO.

 

[Gunther Toody]

Thanks for posting. This is interesting and what we all are saying. The Lantana guy is an amateur. And LE and FBI are hoping he's panicking. MO

Exactly what I said earlier. This was an unsophisticated criminal and the crime escalated.

 

[GatorFL]

Tucson is a large city. More populous than Atlanta, or Albuquerque, or Kansas City. Double that population if you count the entire metropolitan area. There’s nothing small about it imo.

Nope. Atlanta Metro area over 5 million to Tucson Metro area about 1 million.

Atlanta Region Population Estimates - ARC

Each year, the Atlanta Regional Commission (ARC) produces population estimates for the Atlanta Region. These estimates are developed using a number of data sources, including building permits, school enrollment and...

atlantaregional.org

Tucson Metro Area Population (1950-2026) | MacroTrends

Chart and table of population level and growth rate for the Tucson metro area from 1950 to 2026.

www.macrotrends.net

 

[TheDinks]

Every day there’s a new “suspect” on social media in this case. First it was TC, then some bandmate, then some electrician, then a couple of randos, and now it’s the Range Rover driver. Tomorrow it’ll be someone else. None of this is coming from law enforcement.

My favorite part is when these influencers confidently accuse a specific person, rack up views, and then quietly delete the post the second it doesn’t pan out, as if the damage they caused just disappears.

I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.

Just be careful with this stuff.

There was good reason to suspect RR guy... house SWATTED and the way vehicle was treated and taken made it appear they were really onto something. I mean, I'm not giving up on this direction just because arrests haven't been made...yet.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023540916792029334

 

[Luna20]

If the family has been cleared does that mean that they know who it is? It’s a reverse from everyone is considered a suspect. How can you clear anyone if you don’t know who the suspect is?

 

[heli]

Until the sheriff got the dna results back Imo he wasn't sure about clearing the family.

 

[agnesgrey]

If the family has been cleared does that mean that they know who it is? It’s a reverse from everyone is considered a suspect. How can you clear anyone if you don’t know who the suspect is?

I don’t really take anything this sheriff says at face value, who knows what he meant.

 

[Gtcomo]

The sheriff revealed that his brother, who was in hospice, died on February 2, just one day after Nancy was reported missing, a news outlet reported on Sunday, February 15.

The local authority made the revelation while firing back at "haters" who questioned how his department had handled the investigation, pushing back on claims that the crime scene was cleared too early.

"My officers were there for almost 20 hours, and they processed their scene, got it done, and brought in all the evidence," he said. "Then the FBI came and did their thing."

So the sheriff was working on the Nancy Guthrie/Savannah Guthrie case… arguably the biggest case of his career! Then his own brother dies, then he went to a division 1 basketball game sitting in the front row all within days of each other? Hmm , I’m wondering where his priorities lie ? I’m asking for a friend

 

[cherryleaf]

The sheriff revealed that his brother, who was in hospice, died on February 2, just one day after Nancy was reported missing, a news outlet reported on Sunday, February 15.

The local authority made the revelation while firing back at "haters" who questioned how his department had handled the investigation, pushing back on claims that the crime scene was cleared too early.

"My officers were there for almost 20 hours, and they processed their scene, got it done, and brought in all the evidence," he said. "Then the FBI came and did their thing."

Sheriff Under Scrutiny in Savannah Guthrie's Mom Disappearance Says He Was Hit by Personal Tragedy 1 Day After Nancy's Abduction

The sheriff under scrutiny in Savannah Guthrie's mom Nancy Guthrie's abduction revealed he suffered a personal tragedy just one day into the investigation.

okmagazine.com

Poor man. His brother and then this high profile case in less than 48 hrs . That’s a lot for anyone . It’s not said enough the sacrifices that are made by LE. I think if the sheriff and his bro were close it may have been helpful for him in the beginning of this case and given him something else to focus time and energy on. Him being at the game and the lack of conferences could have been him trying to quietly and privately remove himself from the case to process his grief. Idk, I’m not judging him. Truly, grief is different for everyone. Regardless, condolences to the sheriff and his family.

 

[fridaybaker]

I’m

I don't know, but it bugs me, I do hope there is some smart strategy to it. jmo

The whole “movie quote” thing, I think, is real. The question is, why?

Here is a suggestion: I think it’s fair to say that the FBI is coaching the family on what to say in these videos. They are extremely calculated to achieve the desired result in the given circumstance, meaning that each one is directed toward the specific situation/time in the abduction.

If that’s so, it could mean that the movies in question also use specific wording geared to achieve desired result in a similar circumstance. Or, perhaps there is internal evidence that our perp is a movie watcher. A third scenario is that there is coding involved. I see all three as possibilities.

 

[Bodhi]

It's not necessarily that he's bumbling, it's that he's always driven by ego and defensive to the point of putting himself first and a lot of the scandals and lawsuits point to that.

I posted the Sgt. Cross lawsuit along w/ Lt. Lappin's lawsuit against Nanos a few pages back along w/ his fiery interview against the FBI on KGUN from 2016, when he was investigated by the feds (and also a few other issues). In that post I also used one of your sources (azcentral that has plenty of coverage of his scandals and election).

Sgt. Cross, who personally worked the Giffords case btw (and Mark Kelly's political party props Nanos's election campaigns), believes Nanos's icy relationship with the FBI on this case goes back to that 2015 RICO fund investigation.

Both lawsuits also cover retribution so the reputation is that he is petty and defensive and egotistical (and of course Lappin who ran against him in his last election was placed on administrative duty by Nanos, and then calls for Nanos's resignation even came from his own democratic party). All those cited examples above/in that post point more to an egotistical driven individual who used his power to punish those in his dept. that went against him (Lt. Lappin's campaign was launched because she found that the classes she trained all expressed dismay with Nanos's leadership.). That is poor leadership that is despised by the rank and file.

There have been other detectives that have also interviewed sharing Cross's assessment that Nanos (who lost his last campaign, and only won the latest in razor close recount) is not popular among rank and file and most of the department's experienced personnel left because of the climate at the dept. brought upon by him. It is factual that the dept. currently is very green with a large percentage of probationary deputies, and a large percentage of detectives being Det. 1s.

I missed your previous post about this. You're versed in the specifics, thank you. My take is based solely on the findings by the US District Court, the Attorney General, and trusted local sources. I can't evaluate opinions that members of the department or political opponents may or may not have. They're subjective. I don't have the familiarity you have. I appreciate your assessment and take it into account.

What is most relevant to me here is who is leaking supposed insider info to sensationalist sites. While a few have a political bent (or cater to viewers who do), most sensational news media will promote any insider allegations that will garner clicks. It's their business model. Here, the self-serving leaks from 'insiders' are coming only from federal side. It's unlikely career agents are casting blame on a law enforcement partner in the middle of an investigation. They'd understand the dynamics. I doubt career agents take their eye off the ball. If the Pima County Sheriff's Office leaked information about the incompetence of the current FBI, the allegations would certainly be published. The absence of such reporting speaks to the professionalism of local law enforcement as well as career FBI. In my opinion, that leaves associated non-career federal law enforcement personnel promoting a narrative through leaks.

I'm interested to hear what you and others familiar with criminal investigations think about the source, credibility, and volume of the leaks in this case.

 

[tomatotraveler]

Until the sheriff got the dna results back Imo he wasn't sure about clearing the family.

Which is totally fair.

I’m not a huge fan of him being pearl-clutchy that people may have still been speculating about this before then, though.
A HUGE percentage of murders, kidnappings, assaults are done by someone known to the victim. That’s not a dig on the Guthries; that’s just statistics. Unless and until he SAID they had cleared them, I’m not sure what he expected. Of COURSE when something like this happens people will look at the family.

 

[Ghostwheel]

How'd they get to 40 people? My best guess is it's from the one known piece of identifiable evidence - perhaps there were 40 backpacks sold to men at Walmarts in the region within the last x months. IMO.

My guess would be the craptastic holster. No one who appreciates a gun would own one of those, IMHO.

 

[MagicalMysteryTour]

I was trying to figure out how to describe his manner on the footage-best I can do is “laid back”. Not what I would expect to see, but that might just be my own stereotypical thought process. I expect someone that looks more sure of themselves, determined, a little quicker with their steps and process. The lantana is a head scratcher.

Lantana has stems which are square shaped in cross section so it could be that the Perp used it to poke behind the nest camera and release it from the bracket. The battery powered nest cam has the release button located behind the device on the upper section.

Lantana also has hairy leaves and stems, so it could also be that he used these parts of the plants to aid with grip.

This doesn't mean he knew about these qualities of the plant though as it looks like he grabbed the first thing he came across rather than trawling through the garden carefully selecting a plant for its properties.

 

[fridaybaker]

I don’t really take anything this sheriff says at face value, who knows what he meant.

Yes! I think there are likely many phrases used that can be used interchangeably, but also, in a more formal situation, be distinct.

From what I’ve seen, for a person/persons to be officially declared “cleared”, it would mean that the crime has actually been solved. However, there is also “everyday” type of talk, which is what I perceive this sheriff is doing at this stage. Meaning that they are no longer looking right now at the family, who were a huge part of the initial focus, as people close to the victim always are. They’ve done their initial drill-down on those closest to the victim (family) and so far haven’t found anything. Hence, they are “cleared”.

 

[Arkay]

First thing I thought was that it’s a lie like everything else this person has written in an attempt to misdirect, obfuscate, and confuse.

Of course, no evidence pointing either way yet!

On the second or third letter they issued a threat (speculating toward Nancy) of what they would do if they didn't get their money. They shifted from observer of kidnappers to kidnapper. Total bs

Same.

It all sounds phony to me.

“Gee, I know about Nancy, down here south of the border, and I saw a guy, and I knew that was Nancy with him, and I want the reward for informing on him, but I can’t do it myself because I’ve been in trouble with the law so I don’t think they’ll give me the reward, but I really know who it is, just give me the money first though.”


I wish it were true somehow that somebody out there has seen Nancy alive and has genuine info, and contacts the FBI.

But this whole spectacle and writing to TMZ rather than contacting LE strikes me as 100% B.S.


Just my opinion.

 

[clearskies1]

The amount of LE hours going into this is incredible. Not complaining. JMO.