AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Han]

Nah. She left behind blood.

 

[dogmom805]

Agreed I think this suspect just has some really weird eye structure. Really big and upturned eyes, lots of room in bleph area, lots of space between corner of eye and nose.
JMO

The things your mention are what made me think this is a mask/disguise. Really unnatural. Brow does not arch towards the nose, it goes straight across all the way to the center of the nose, but not in a unibrow sort of way.

Almost looks like they shaved or covered their own brows with tape, and then glued on fake brows. And also fake lashes, with mascara and eyeliner.

 

[Han]

Leaving everything behind is likely a strategy to avoid losing track of something of hers that would give them away.

 

[clearskies1]

I think the unknown male DNA found in NG's house is the best lead they have atm because it's linked to the crime scene. In saying that, we don't have enough information to determine how important this DNA is as it's dependant on where it was found and what type of sample it is, i.e. hair, skin, blood or other bodily fluids.

If I were LE, i'd be wanting to try and identify the donor by using genetic genealogy on the sample. I'm sort of hoping that they're being quiet about it because they are working on the sample.

Brian Entin did a great interview of a genetic genealogist about this case.

 

[RedHaus]

Agreed I think this suspect just has some really weird eye structure. Really big and upturned eyes, lots of room in bleph area, lots of space between corner of eye and nose.
JMO

You mean like this sketch of porch perp?

Source video for image, artist, context: Unofficial sketch of Nancy Guthrie suspect released

 

[lilyk]

I noticed this just now. Look at his droopy upper eyelids. They look to be almost covering his upper lashes. I thought he was quite young at first till I noticed this. View attachment 645655

I don't see droopy. I don't see a second mask. I see a hooded eyelid and possible epicanthal fold. Both are quite common in various ethnicities. Epicanthal folds have been found "in 50% of the Latino population (...). Epicanthal folds in normal adults are typically attributed to Asian heritage and are rare in Caucasians."

Source: The Latino eyelid: anthropometric analysis of a spectrum of findings - PMC

Also this is not an older person, early 30's to 40 yo tops. All IMO.

 

[Wsimm]

Was it a warm-ish night where she might have cracked a window open for the night air to come in? Just a thought. I don’t know.

I recall reading in a NYTimes article that she’d open her windows during the summer.

I believe I read the low that night was 34.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I believe I read the low that night was 34.

It was cold that night.

 

[MesquiteO21]

Maybe there is footage that has not been shared with the public, that shows more of what happened that night.

I absolutely think this is the case. Rarely do police release everything. I’m sure they have more footage of MM in the Tepe murder case than just like 10 seconds or however long it was of him walking in the alley.

moo

 

[submarine7]

Was it a warm-ish night where she might have cracked a window open for the night air to come in? Just a thought. I don’t know.

I recall reading in a NYTimes article that she’d open her windows during the summer.

look at this photo where it looks like a window is open. Look closely.

 

[jtfolden]

Call me crazy, but I think checking into gun stores isn’t very helpful. Most people who have guns, already have them. I doubt most criminals buy a gun right before committing a crime. Usually you have a gun you’re comfortable using and it’s not a last minute purchase. Totally my own opinion.

Edited to add— I’m grateful they’re checking into things though!

I do not know if that’s true in this case though… he seemed bumbling and it appears his outfit and backpack are new. The holster may be new as well and so might the gun. It’s already been noted the holster was not made for that type of gun.

 

[Han]

View attachment 645785look at this photo where it looks like a window is open. Look closely.

Is that a door in the front? A private terrace?

 

[submarine7]

Is that the door in the front? A private terrace?

Yes, sorry. That is a tiny piece of photo taken of the front.

Edit to add it is a window and not a sliding door. I looked at it from several angles. Of course this was taken nearly 2 weeks after the fact but it looks open.

 

[templeton]

I do not know if that’s true in this case though… he seemed bumbling and it appears his outfit and backpack are new. The holster may be new as well and so might the gun.

New items so there’s no dna on them

 

[MesquiteO21]

Apologies if this has been discussed already, but I find this interesting: Maureen OConnell former FBI agent thinks the POI in the ring cam footage was high. I didn’t think of that, though Ive always thought his behavior was very odd for someone supposedly wanting to get into a house. Criminals are FAST when breaking and entering, burglarizing, robbing, etc. but I get no sense of urgency in the video at all. Being high could certainly explain it.

(I’m also not ruling out at this point that he was a fall guy/decoy and wasn’t a major player in the bigger crime). MOO

 

[Turkeytrot]

Maybe there is footage that has not been shared with the public, that shows more of what happened that night.

I believe this. More video and possible audio

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Not sure how Walmarts transaction system is set up but if its where you can export to excel, all you have to do is combine all the files into one excel file, work your parameters and find out the redundancy between the skus and time/date. So if this guy bought the backpack and holster at the same time, you’d get a redundancy hit.

If this guy bought any item he’s wearing at the same time at Walmart, he’s probably already figured out right now. It does not take long to combine files into excel and run a redundancy check.

MOO

 

[TheDinks]

Apologies if this has been discussed already, but I find this interesting: Maureen OConnell former FBI agent thinks the POI in the ring cam footage was high. I didn’t think of that, though Ive always thought his behavior was very odd for someone supposedly wanting to get into a house. Criminals are FAST when breaking and entering, burglarizing, robbing, etc. but I get no sense of urgency in the video at all. Being high could certainly explain it.

(I’m also not ruling out at this point that he was a fall guy/decoy and wasn’t a major player in the bigger crime). MOO

Thanks M, I always love hearing Maureen's input will watch this now.

 

[MarciB]

Apparently, Walmart only keeps video of purchases for 90 days. Let’s hope he bought the backpack recently.

Speaking of which, I wonder if when NG was dropped off, there was any footage of the vehicle dropping her off or of her walking towards garage.

we haven't seen any footage of NG being dropped off that night, but there is a record of the times the garage door opened and closed. She was probably dropped off inside the garage and went directly in the house. The doorbell camera wouldn't necessarily record that.

 

[detectivewannab]

AB probably will need to defend herself from a lawsuit after time to sort things out. And shame on social media for jumping on the "witch hunt". I

Its not over. Can we trust anything this sheifs says or does?