AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I believe I read the low that night was 34.

It was cold that night.

 

[MesquiteO21]

Maybe there is footage that has not been shared with the public, that shows more of what happened that night.

I absolutely think this is the case. Rarely do police release everything. I’m sure they have more footage of MM in the Tepe murder case than just like 10 seconds or however long it was of him walking in the alley.

moo

 

[submarine7]

Was it a warm-ish night where she might have cracked a window open for the night air to come in? Just a thought. I don’t know.

I recall reading in a NYTimes article that she’d open her windows during the summer.

look at this photo where it looks like a window is open. Look closely.

 

[jtfolden]

Call me crazy, but I think checking into gun stores isn’t very helpful. Most people who have guns, already have them. I doubt most criminals buy a gun right before committing a crime. Usually you have a gun you’re comfortable using and it’s not a last minute purchase. Totally my own opinion.

Edited to add— I’m grateful they’re checking into things though!

I do not know if that’s true in this case though… he seemed bumbling and it appears his outfit and backpack are new. The holster may be new as well and so might the gun. It’s already been noted the holster was not made for that type of gun.

 

[Han]

View attachment 645785look at this photo where it looks like a window is open. Look closely.

Is that a door in the front? A private terrace?

 

[submarine7]

Is that the door in the front? A private terrace?

Yes, sorry. That is a tiny piece of photo taken of the front.

Edit to add it is a window and not a sliding door. I looked at it from several angles. Of course this was taken nearly 2 weeks after the fact but it looks open.

 

[templeton]

I do not know if that’s true in this case though… he seemed bumbling and it appears his outfit and backpack are new. The holster may be new as well and so might the gun.

New items so there’s no dna on them

 

[MesquiteO21]

Apologies if this has been discussed already, but I find this interesting: Maureen OConnell former FBI agent thinks the POI in the ring cam footage was high. I didn’t think of that, though Ive always thought his behavior was very odd for someone supposedly wanting to get into a house. Criminals are FAST when breaking and entering, burglarizing, robbing, etc. but I get no sense of urgency in the video at all. Being high could certainly explain it.

(I’m also not ruling out at this point that he was a fall guy/decoy and wasn’t a major player in the bigger crime). MOO

 

[Turkeytrot]

Maybe there is footage that has not been shared with the public, that shows more of what happened that night.

I believe this. More video and possible audio

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Not sure how Walmarts transaction system is set up but if its where you can export to excel, all you have to do is combine all the files into one excel file, work your parameters and find out the redundancy between the skus and time/date. So if this guy bought the backpack and holster at the same time, you’d get a redundancy hit.

If this guy bought any item he’s wearing at the same time at Walmart, he’s probably already figured out right now. It does not take long to combine files into excel and run a redundancy check.

MOO

 

[TheDinks]

Apologies if this has been discussed already, but I find this interesting: Maureen OConnell former FBI agent thinks the POI in the ring cam footage was high. I didn’t think of that, though Ive always thought his behavior was very odd for someone supposedly wanting to get into a house. Criminals are FAST when breaking and entering, burglarizing, robbing, etc. but I get no sense of urgency in the video at all. Being high could certainly explain it.

(I’m also not ruling out at this point that he was a fall guy/decoy and wasn’t a major player in the bigger crime). MOO

Thanks M, I always love hearing Maureen's input will watch this now.

 

[MarciB]

Apparently, Walmart only keeps video of purchases for 90 days. Let’s hope he bought the backpack recently.

Speaking of which, I wonder if when NG was dropped off, there was any footage of the vehicle dropping her off or of her walking towards garage.

we haven't seen any footage of NG being dropped off that night, but there is a record of the times the garage door opened and closed. She was probably dropped off inside the garage and went directly in the house. The doorbell camera wouldn't necessarily record that.

 

[detectivewannab]

AB probably will need to defend herself from a lawsuit after time to sort things out. And shame on social media for jumping on the "witch hunt". I

Its not over. Can we trust anything this sheifs says or does?

 

[MesquiteO21]

Not sure how Walmarts transaction system is set up but if its where you can export to excel, all you have to do is combine all the files into one excel file, work your parameters and find out the redundancy between the skus and time/date. So if this guy bought the backpack and holster at the same time, you’d get a redundancy hit.

If this guy bought any item he’s wearing at the same time at Walmart, he’s probably already figured out right now. It does not take long to combine files into excel and run a redundancy check.

MOO

Interesting! I learn so much from Websleuthers.
Do we know if that specific holster was only sold at Walmart? I also imagine they would probably have to cast a rather large net for several Walmarts not just in Tucson or AZ but surrounding states or even a few states over like TX since who knows when and where the backpack and/or holster was purchased. (And hope the backpack wasn’t thrifted…)

moo

 

[MesquiteO21]

Its not over. Can we trust anything this sheifs says or does?

Well. I did think of that also. But for right now I am going to choose to believe him.

moo

 

[Ghostwheel]

Yes, sorry. That is a tiny piece of photo taken of the front.

Edit to add it is a window and not a sliding door. I looked at it from several angles. Of course this was taken nearly 2 weeks after the fact but it looks open. View attachment 645789

I think if it is what is behind the pinkish chair, it's a sliding door I take it back, I am no longer sure. I added another image and it could well be a very low window or possibly a sliding door with a larger step. My sliding door has a 7 inch step. My mother's had a 2 inch step.

From https://www.npr.org/2026/02/12/nx-s1-5711620/nancy-guthrie-video-footage-fbi. It looks to me like a brick half wall around a small patio outside of a bedroom with a sliding door. And that could be a screen door that is not pushed all the way to the edge. Like mine looks. JMO, though.

https://www.fox.com/watch/clip/6389275585112/search-for-nancy-guthrie-experts-analyze-massive-police-activity-home-invasion-theories-in-tucson

 

[Chili Fries]

I do not know if that’s true in this case though… he seemed bumbling and it appears his outfit and backpack are new. The holster may be new as well and so might the gun. It’s already been noted the holster was not made for that type of gun.

That's a good point but in Arizona a gun can be bought from a private party without a background check. It's easy to do through Armslist, which is a website that connects local gun buyers and sellers. Like Ebay but with the parties having to meet in person because guns can't be shipped except to a registered dealer.

I think law enforcement believed that the gun could have been bought recently like you postulated and the possibility of the perpetrator(s) window shopping at a gun store even if they didn't buy led them to do the canvas but it was probably a longshot. At least they are trying to cover many different possibilities.

 

[wibbleflea]

If I were LE, i'd be wanting to try and identify the donor by using genetic genealogy on the sample. I'm sort of hoping that they're being quiet about it because they are working on the sample.

Yes. The excellent CeCe Moore, speaking to Brian Entin yesterday (here), was positive about the prospect of IGG, given a DNA sample. She was also positive about the quality of the lab used by the sheriff, which she has used herself.

Many people are likely to have visited NG’s house. They may not have identified everyone and taken samples for elimination. Can we assume that the way the sheriff spoke of that unknown male DNA makes him reasonably confident about it?

 

[submarine7]

I think if it is what is behind the pinkish chair, it's a sliding door. From https://www.npr.org/2026/02/12/nx-s1-5711620/nancy-guthrie-video-footage-fbi. It looks to me like a brick half wall around a small patio outside of a bedroom with a sliding door. And that could be a screen door that is not pushed all the way to the edge. Like mine looks. JMO, though.
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You may be right. I think I was judging it partially off the chair in the forefront.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

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Interesting! I learn so much from Websleuthers.
Do we know if that specific holster was only sold at Walmart? I also imagine they would probably have to cast a rather large net for several Walmarts not just in Tucson or AZ but surrounding states or even a few states over like TX since who knows when and where the backpack and/or holster was purchased. (And hope the backpack wasn’t thrifted…)

moo

So I checked and it appears Walmart would export to a csv file which can then be converted to excel.

So if he bought two items at once, it won’t take long to find the date and time. If he bought them on separate days using the same credit card, they can match using the derivatives of that card to match. If he paid with cash, I mean how many people pay with cash these days. Easy.

If he stole it, that’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. I’ve seen videos of Walmart thieves stealing by putting items in a storage tub and just paying for the tub. They might have to look for all tubs purchased at each Walmart. Not sure how long wal mart keeps their videos though. Regardless, they’ll have to dig real deep for that.