AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Chili Fries]

I do not know if that’s true in this case though… he seemed bumbling and it appears his outfit and backpack are new. The holster may be new as well and so might the gun. It’s already been noted the holster was not made for that type of gun.

That's a good point but in Arizona a gun can be bought from a private party without a background check. It's easy to do through Armslist, which is a website that connects local gun buyers and sellers. Like Ebay but with the parties having to meet in person because guns can't be shipped except to a registered dealer.

I think law enforcement believed that the gun could have been bought recently like you postulated and the possibility of the perpetrator(s) window shopping at a gun store even if they didn't buy led them to do the canvas but it was probably a longshot. At least they are trying to cover many different possibilities.

 

[wibbleflea]

If I were LE, i'd be wanting to try and identify the donor by using genetic genealogy on the sample. I'm sort of hoping that they're being quiet about it because they are working on the sample.

Yes. The excellent CeCe Moore, speaking to Brian Entin yesterday (here), was positive about the prospect of IGG, given a DNA sample. She was also positive about the quality of the lab used by the sheriff, which she has used herself.

Many people are likely to have visited NG’s house. They may not have identified everyone and taken samples for elimination. Can we assume that the way the sheriff spoke of that unknown male DNA makes him reasonably confident about it?

 

[submarine7]

I think if it is what is behind the pinkish chair, it's a sliding door. From https://www.npr.org/2026/02/12/nx-s1-5711620/nancy-guthrie-video-footage-fbi. It looks to me like a brick half wall around a small patio outside of a bedroom with a sliding door. And that could be a screen door that is not pushed all the way to the edge. Like mine looks. JMO, though.
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You may be right. I think I was judging it partially off the chair in the forefront.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Just

Interesting! I learn so much from Websleuthers.
Do we know if that specific holster was only sold at Walmart? I also imagine they would probably have to cast a rather large net for several Walmarts not just in Tucson or AZ but surrounding states or even a few states over like TX since who knows when and where the backpack and/or holster was purchased. (And hope the backpack wasn’t thrifted…)

moo

So I checked and it appears Walmart would export to a csv file which can then be converted to excel.

So if he bought two items at once, it won’t take long to find the date and time. If he bought them on separate days using the same credit card, they can match using the derivatives of that card to match. If he paid with cash, I mean how many people pay with cash these days. Easy.

If he stole it, that’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. I’ve seen videos of Walmart thieves stealing by putting items in a storage tub and just paying for the tub. They might have to look for all tubs purchased at each Walmart. Not sure how long wal mart keeps their videos though. Regardless, they’ll have to dig real deep for that.

 

[SlimPickens]

Did they release that they found the same/similar glove two miles from NG's house before or after they searched the house that is two miles from NG's house?

JMO.

 

[Data Sleuth]

Did they release that they found the same/similar glove two miles from NG's house before or after they searched the house that is two miles from NG's house?

JMO.

Yes

 

[TheDinks]

Did they release that they found the same/similar glove two miles from NG's house before or after they searched the house that is two miles from NG's house?

JMO.

I believe it was before...

 

[Winter67]

Savannah Guthrie

Savannah Guthrie. 698,200 likes · 841,741 talking about this. Vale & Charley's mom. TODAY cohost. Attorney. Author, Mostly What God Does, #1 NYT bestseller

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I am not saying anyone in particuliar but I've watched this several times and it seems personal. You are not alone, we are here and over and over it's not too late to do the right thing. I am like you all, this is such a strange twisting case.

 

[Bluewing3102]

Just


So I checked and it appears Walmart would export to a csv file which can then be converted to excel.

So if he bought two items at once, it won’t take long to find the date and time. If he bought them on separate days using the same credit card, they can match using the derivatives of that card to match. If he paid with cash, I mean how many people pay with cash these days. Easy.

If he stole it, that’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. I’ve seen videos of Walmart thieves stealing by putting items in a storage tub and just paying for the tub. They might have to look for all tubs purchased at each Walmart. Not sure how long wal mart keeps their videos though. Regardless, they’ll have to dig real deep for that.

Yeah, they probably use something more powerful than Excel- like AWS or Apache but you got the principle right. Using SQL to query for region, item, date/time should yield pretty good results. IMO a task like this would take me 30 minutes tops. The hard part is going to be getting the footage from Walmart depending how long ago these items were purchased. However based on the video of the perp, all of the items seem pretty new and i'd guess he was stupid enough to buy everything at the same time, sometime in January from a local Tucson walmart.

JMO

 

[Han]

Yeah, they probably use something more powerful than Excel- like AWS or Apache but you got the principle right. Using SQL to query for region, item, date/time should yield pretty good results. IMO a task like this would take me 30 minutes tops. The hard part is going to be getting the footage from Walmart depending how long ago these items were purchased. However based on the video of the perp, all of the items seem pretty new and i'd guess he was stupid enough to buy everything at the same time, sometime in January from a local Tucson walmart.

JMO

That would be a break wouldn’t it? They could get a look at his face.

 

[slowpoke]

Yes, sorry. That is a tiny piece of photo taken of the front.

Edit to add it is a window and not a sliding door. I looked at it from several angles. Of course this was taken nearly 2 weeks after the fact but it looks open. View attachment 645789

From this pic, it looks like there may be a doormat underneath, which makes it seem like it IS a sliding door.

Hard to say if it is slightly open, or is it just the screen that is not all the way closed. But I do see what you see about it appearing open.

Where I got this pic from: Fox10phoenix link

 

[Ghostwheel]

Savannah Guthrie

Savannah Guthrie. 698,200 likes · 841,741 talking about this. Vale & Charley's mom. TODAY cohost. Attorney. Author, Mostly What God Does, #1 NYT bestseller

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I am not saying anyone in particuliar but I've watched this several times and it seems personal. You are not alone, we are here and over and over it's not too late to do the right thing. I am like you all, this is such a strange twisting case.

It may just be me, but it sounds like she is "addressing" someone who is thought might actually know something and are out of their league and are scared. Like if you help us, we will help you. They can't say this, but IMO, they are implying that if this someone comes forward, they can make a deal where the person won't be charged or have greatly reduced charges. The notes may have nothing to do with it (or they might). That is my take on this.

 

[LRinCA]

It may just be me, but it sounds like she is "addressing" someone who is thought might actually know something and are out of their league and are scared. Like if you help us, we will help you. They can't say this, but IMO, they are implying that if this someone comes forward, they can make a deal where the person won't be charged or have greatly reduced charges. The notes may have nothing to do with it (or they might). That is my take on this.

I wonder if in this instance she is addressing the person who is in contact with Harvey Levin. I listened to Levin's video this morning and I thought of Savannah's words in relation to whoever that person might be.

 

[Roadette]

I just thought of something. What if the perp felt like things are getting “too hot” in Tucson and sent the latest ransom letter to TMZ trying to throw off the scent a bit, by implying she’s out of the country?

 

[submarine7]

I wonder if in this instance she is addressing the person who is in contact with Harvey Levin. I listened to Levin's video this morning and I thought of Savannah's words in relation to whoever that person might be.

It seems like burglary gone wrong also purposefully minimizes the crime and the severity of punishment.

 

[submarine7]

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From this pic, it looks like there may be a doormat underneath, which makes it seem like it IS a sliding door.

Hard to say if it is slightly open, or is it just the screen that is not all the way closed. But I do see what you see about it appearing open.

Where I got this pic from: Fox10phoenix link

I'm definitely wrong about that I didn't see this excellent photo. It's a door. MOO

 

[hopeprayer]

As someone whose elderly mom was targeted by people who knew her in real life as well as by strangers through online means (she regularly downloaded viruses; my cybersecurity son even found spyware on her laptop!)...I keep wondering if the perp(s) were after more than just the typical valuables like cash on hand and jewelry. Is it possible that they were after bigger things like access to her bank accounts?

Some of the reasons this comes to mind: 41 minutes (longer than a typical home invasion, which could have bought time to look through files), the adult protective services business card stuck in the door, dealings with bitcoin (if the ransom notes are legit and tied to the perps), bungling lantana man's efforts (might be cyber savvy but not burglary savvy), no mention of valuables stolen (there might have been, but LE has said her wallet and other things were left behind).

My mom would keep a paper list of her passwords. She was old school, no matter how much we told her it was dangerous to do that.

JMO

 

[fridaybaker]

Just


So I checked and it appears Walmart would export to a csv file which can then be converted to excel.

So if he bought two items at once, it won’t take long to find the date and time. If he bought them on separate days using the same credit card, they can match using the derivatives of that card to match. If he paid with cash, I mean how many people pay with cash these days. Easy.

If he stole it, that’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. I’ve seen videos of Walmart thieves stealing by putting items in a storage tub and just paying for the tub. They might have to look for all tubs purchased at each Walmart. Not sure how long wal mart keeps their videos though. Regardless, they’ll have to dig real deep for that.

I read somewhere that they keep video for 90 days max.

 

[submarine7]

I wonder if in this instance she is addressing the person who is in contact with Harvey Levin. I listened to Levin's video this morning and I thought of Savannah's words in relation to whoever that person might be.

I think they are one in the same but I have no clue who they are or why they took Nancy. But I think the letters are coming from the real perp(s?) and they don't appear to genuinely be motivated by money.

 

[hopeprayer]

It may just be me, but it sounds like she is "addressing" someone who is thought might actually know something and are out of their league and are scared. Like if you help us, we will help you. They can't say this, but IMO, they are implying that if this someone comes forward, they can make a deal where the person won't be charged or have greatly reduced charges. The notes may have nothing to do with it (or they might). That is my take on this.

I am wondering if she is talking to an unwilling accomplice (maybe the mom of the perp?) who might know something but is scared to come forward. Maybe the mom is torn between trying to protect her son and doing the right thing.

JMO.