• #32,841
Not sure how Walmarts transaction system is set up but if its where you can export to excel, all you have to do is combine all the files into one excel file, work your parameters and find out the redundancy between the skus and time/date. So if this guy bought the backpack and holster at the same time, you’d get a redundancy hit.

If this guy bought any item he’s wearing at the same time at Walmart, he’s probably already figured out right now. It does not take long to combine files into excel and run a redundancy check.

MOO
 
  • #32,842
Apologies if this has been discussed already, but I find this interesting: Maureen OConnell former FBI agent thinks the POI in the ring cam footage was high. I didn’t think of that, though Ive always thought his behavior was very odd for someone supposedly wanting to get into a house. Criminals are FAST when breaking and entering, burglarizing, robbing, etc. but I get no sense of urgency in the video at all. Being high could certainly explain it.

(I’m also not ruling out at this point that he was a fall guy/decoy and wasn’t a major player in the bigger crime). MOO



Thanks M, I always love hearing Maureen's input will watch this now.
 
  • #32,843
Apparently, Walmart only keeps video of purchases for 90 days. Let’s hope he bought the backpack recently.

Speaking of which, I wonder if when NG was dropped off, there was any footage of the vehicle dropping her off or of her walking towards garage.
we haven't seen any footage of NG being dropped off that night, but there is a record of the times the garage door opened and closed. She was probably dropped off inside the garage and went directly in the house. The doorbell camera wouldn't necessarily record that.
 
  • #32,844
AB probably will need to defend herself from a lawsuit after time to sort things out. And shame on social media for jumping on the "witch hunt". I
Its not over. Can we trust anything this sheifs says or does?
 
  • #32,845
Not sure how Walmarts transaction system is set up but if its where you can export to excel, all you have to do is combine all the files into one excel file, work your parameters and find out the redundancy between the skus and time/date. So if this guy bought the backpack and holster at the same time, you’d get a redundancy hit.

If this guy bought any item he’s wearing at the same time at Walmart, he’s probably already figured out right now. It does not take long to combine files into excel and run a redundancy check.

MOO
Interesting! I learn so much from Websleuthers.
Do we know if that specific holster was only sold at Walmart? I also imagine they would probably have to cast a rather large net for several Walmarts not just in Tucson or AZ but surrounding states or even a few states over like TX since who knows when and where the backpack and/or holster was purchased. (And hope the backpack wasn’t thrifted…)

moo
 
  • #32,846
Its not over. Can we trust anything this sheifs says or does?
Well. I did think of that also. But for right now I am going to choose to believe him.

moo
 
  • #32,847
Yes, sorry. That is a tiny piece of photo taken of the front.

Edit to add it is a window and not a sliding door. I looked at it from several angles. Of course this was taken nearly 2 weeks after the fact but it looks open. View attachment 645789

I think if it is what is behind the pinkish chair, it's a sliding door I take it back, I am no longer sure. I added another image and it could well be a very low window or possibly a sliding door with a larger step. My sliding door has a 7 inch step. My mother's had a 2 inch step.

From https://www.npr.org/2026/02/12/nx-s1-5711620/nancy-guthrie-video-footage-fbi. It looks to me like a brick half wall around a small patio outside of a bedroom with a sliding door. And that could be a screen door that is not pushed all the way to the edge. Like mine looks. JMO, though.
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  • #32,848
I do not know if that’s true in this case though… he seemed bumbling and it appears his outfit and backpack are new. The holster may be new as well and so might the gun. It’s already been noted the holster was not made for that type of gun.
That's a good point but in Arizona a gun can be bought from a private party without a background check. It's easy to do through Armslist, which is a website that connects local gun buyers and sellers. Like Ebay but with the parties having to meet in person because guns can't be shipped except to a registered dealer.

I think law enforcement believed that the gun could have been bought recently like you postulated and the possibility of the perpetrator(s) window shopping at a gun store even if they didn't buy led them to do the canvas but it was probably a longshot. At least they are trying to cover many different possibilities.
 
  • #32,849
If I were LE, i'd be wanting to try and identify the donor by using genetic genealogy on the sample. I'm sort of hoping that they're being quiet about it because they are working on the sample.
Yes. The excellent CeCe Moore, speaking to Brian Entin yesterday (here), was positive about the prospect of IGG, given a DNA sample. She was also positive about the quality of the lab used by the sheriff, which she has used herself.

Many people are likely to have visited NG’s house. They may not have identified everyone and taken samples for elimination. Can we assume that the way the sheriff spoke of that unknown male DNA makes him reasonably confident about it?
 
  • #32,850
I think if it is what is behind the pinkish chair, it's a sliding door. From https://www.npr.org/2026/02/12/nx-s1-5711620/nancy-guthrie-video-footage-fbi. It looks to me like a brick half wall around a small patio outside of a bedroom with a sliding door. And that could be a screen door that is not pushed all the way to the edge. Like mine looks. JMO, though.
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You may be right. I think I was judging it partially off the chair in the forefront.
 
  • #32,851
Just
Interesting! I learn so much from Websleuthers.
Do we know if that specific holster was only sold at Walmart? I also imagine they would probably have to cast a rather large net for several Walmarts not just in Tucson or AZ but surrounding states or even a few states over like TX since who knows when and where the backpack and/or holster was purchased. (And hope the backpack wasn’t thrifted…)

moo

So I checked and it appears Walmart would export to a csv file which can then be converted to excel.

So if he bought two items at once, it won’t take long to find the date and time. If he bought them on separate days using the same credit card, they can match using the derivatives of that card to match. If he paid with cash, I mean how many people pay with cash these days. Easy.

If he stole it, that’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. I’ve seen videos of Walmart thieves stealing by putting items in a storage tub and just paying for the tub. They might have to look for all tubs purchased at each Walmart. Not sure how long wal mart keeps their videos though. Regardless, they’ll have to dig real deep for that.
 
  • #32,852
Did they release that they found the same/similar glove two miles from NG's house before or after they searched the house that is two miles from NG's house?

JMO.
 
  • #32,853
Did they release that they found the same/similar glove two miles from NG's house before or after they searched the house that is two miles from NG's house?

JMO.
Yes
 
  • #32,854
Did they release that they found the same/similar glove two miles from NG's house before or after they searched the house that is two miles from NG's house?

JMO.


I believe it was before...
 
  • #32,855
I am not saying anyone in particuliar but I've watched this several times and it seems personal. You are not alone, we are here and over and over it's not too late to do the right thing. I am like you all, this is such a strange twisting case.
 
  • #32,856
Just


So I checked and it appears Walmart would export to a csv file which can then be converted to excel.

So if he bought two items at once, it won’t take long to find the date and time. If he bought them on separate days using the same credit card, they can match using the derivatives of that card to match. If he paid with cash, I mean how many people pay with cash these days. Easy.

If he stole it, that’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. I’ve seen videos of Walmart thieves stealing by putting items in a storage tub and just paying for the tub. They might have to look for all tubs purchased at each Walmart. Not sure how long wal mart keeps their videos though. Regardless, they’ll have to dig real deep for that.
Yeah, they probably use something more powerful than Excel- like AWS or Apache but you got the principle right. Using SQL to query for region, item, date/time should yield pretty good results. IMO a task like this would take me 30 minutes tops. The hard part is going to be getting the footage from Walmart depending how long ago these items were purchased. However based on the video of the perp, all of the items seem pretty new and i'd guess he was stupid enough to buy everything at the same time, sometime in January from a local Tucson walmart.

JMO
 
  • #32,857
Yeah, they probably use something more powerful than Excel- like AWS or Apache but you got the principle right. Using SQL to query for region, item, date/time should yield pretty good results. IMO a task like this would take me 30 minutes tops. The hard part is going to be getting the footage from Walmart depending how long ago these items were purchased. However based on the video of the perp, all of the items seem pretty new and i'd guess he was stupid enough to buy everything at the same time, sometime in January from a local Tucson walmart.

JMO
That would be a break wouldn’t it? They could get a look at his face.
 
  • #32,858
Yes, sorry. That is a tiny piece of photo taken of the front.

Edit to add it is a window and not a sliding door. I looked at it from several angles. Of course this was taken nearly 2 weeks after the fact but it looks open. View attachment 645789
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From this pic, it looks like there may be a doormat underneath, which makes it seem like it IS a sliding door.

Hard to say if it is slightly open, or is it just the screen that is not all the way closed. But I do see what you see about it appearing open.

Where I got this pic from: Fox10phoenix link
 
  • #32,859
I am not saying anyone in particuliar but I've watched this several times and it seems personal. You are not alone, we are here and over and over it's not too late to do the right thing. I am like you all, this is such a strange twisting case.
It may just be me, but it sounds like she is "addressing" someone who is thought might actually know something and are out of their league and are scared. Like if you help us, we will help you. They can't say this, but IMO, they are implying that if this someone comes forward, they can make a deal where the person won't be charged or have greatly reduced charges. The notes may have nothing to do with it (or they might). That is my take on this.
 
  • #32,860
It may just be me, but it sounds like she is "addressing" someone who is thought might actually know something and are out of their league and are scared. Like if you help us, we will help you. They can't say this, but IMO, they are implying that if this someone comes forward, they can make a deal where the person won't be charged or have greatly reduced charges. The notes may have nothing to do with it (or they might). That is my take on this.
I wonder if in this instance she is addressing the person who is in contact with Harvey Levin. I listened to Levin's video this morning and I thought of Savannah's words in relation to whoever that person might be.
 

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