AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[stmichael]

OK I'll respect the forum's rules of "no links to Nanos and politicizing not allowed" anymore (apparently Nanos links are deleted) but just want to say this:

He is an elected political figure and backed by a political party.

He's also had a direct history and public statements about his beef w/ the FBI which is directly pertinent to their current relationship on the case.

I see that as important context to current mechanisms of the investigation on this case and not a as
"politicizing" but ok.

 

[SlimPickens]

I'm not sure if there's been any discussion of the suspect's shoes. I went through the footage and grabbed a few screenshots. A couple of things stood out to me:

1. No visible laces
2. Flat heel/ molded platform sole
3. Traditional-style moc toe construction
4. Contrasting outsole, likely rubber
5. Toe spring (or bumper)
6. Non-leather material. Probably canvas or mesh.

I don't know how helpful it is, but the closest match I could find was the Carhartt Men's Haslett Moc Toe Boot in black canvas..

(FWIW, I used to sell shoes)

The first thing that I thought when seeing him in motion is that he was wearing only socks because it looked like I could make out his toes moving. Someone else mentioned that as well. I thought to myself at the time that that was pretty smart on his part if that was the case, because a sock seems like it would be a good buffer between leaving a footprint or shoe print.

In any case, your pictures do look like he is wearing a shoe, so not a bad idea to discern whether he is or is not, and if so the make and model.

JMO.

 

[Bluewing3102]

OMG people- NG's car WAS NOT damaged.
It was a glare hitting the body lines of the car.
This rumor is snowballing on this thread.

Please watch this link at 2:45

 

[EyeCandy]

Nancy Guthrie investigators eye fresh doorbell cam footage of man with goatee lurking near neighbor’s home

A new video has surfaced in the search for Nancy Guthrie’s abductor, which shows a man with a goatee lurking outside a Tucson house one week before she was taken.

nypost.com

Pic 3 .. the rounded back as the guy goes off this porch IMHO looks familiar

Granted it is 6.5 miles away but it is also a week away so a person looking to rob someone or could easily get that far within a week

 

[Van Helsing]

I'm not sure if there's been any discussion of the suspect's shoes. I went through the footage and grabbed a few screenshots. A couple of things stood out to me:

1. No visible laces
2. Flat heel/ molded platform sole
3. Traditional-style moc toe construction
4. Contrasting outsole, likely rubber
5. Toe spring (or bumper)
6. Non-leather material. Probably canvas or mesh.

I don't know how helpful it is, but the closest match I could find was the Carhartt Men's Haslett Moc Toe Boot in black canvas..

(FWIW, I used to sell shoes)
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In some pictures it looks like the shoes are totally covered by fabric, like they are incorporated in the pants or separate shoe covers. But, In that last picture it looks like the the soles are visible.

 

[submarine7]

These TMZ ransom notes (4 now) have been pretty widely discussed here. Is it necessary to re-source every time they are mentioned? Is there some point where it’s considered general knowledge for posting purposes? TIA for any guidance on that.

I provided a source but I was thinking it would really clean up things if we didn't have to cite or source the same things repeatedly?

 

[TheDinks]

I’m surprised we have any information as to whether or not the DNA has been entered into CODIS. I’m not used to LE sharing a blow by blow of their investigation. Sure, if they need footage from residents’ cameras, or have identified someone that they need to speak to and ask for the public’s help, I can see them putting out a request.

Did they find DNA at the house that would absolutely be tied to the crime? In order to clear the family, would you have to be positive that no one connected to a family member is a suspect? I understand that WS is a victim friendly site and family members should be treated as victims. I’m just trying to understand the elimination of all family members while there still appears to be no profile of who did this.

It was only stated Siblings and spouses...

So this doesn't include say, a niece just for example, a bit farther removed from immediate family.

 

[Luna20]

This is way beyond frustrating. What is earth is “quality control”, and how long does it take?? The last I heard was up to 24 hours. That glove went out days ago.
Argh…

I’m hoping to hear some details about DNA from the guest who is on Tricia’s podcast tonight. 8:30CST

The dna details have been too choppy for me to understand. It seems we are getting two narratives on it.

 

[birdbox]

I still don't understand why DNA testing from a roadside glove is eliciting regular updates to the public.

It will be the biggest let down if it doesnt yield something.

 

[birdbox]

I thought the 24 hours included the "quality control" and it's been way past 24 hours. JMO

Federal holiday tho, maybe.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

i might disagree with all the respect i have, personally. AB did something very very foolish in the name of being the first to break the hot story — that’s no better than some of the more salacious tabloids we come across. journalism in these spaces have got to do better. these are real people going through the worst time of their lives.

not attacking you or op, just my opinion

If she rushed to run the story in order to be the first to break the hot story and didn't do due-diligence with cross-checking what she heard from a trusted source, that is problematic.

At the time, though, LE was searching the family member's house and the neighboring property, and it did seem that LE was checking things out very carefully with that family member.

She did make a mistake and I would hope that she learned to be more careful. Hopefully she also learned that the media have a great deal of power in conveying what is happening in a situation, and as a media person, one needs to recognize their own authority and do their reporting respectfully.

JMO

 

[CandyKiss]

The pacemaker sniffer is so advanced that I've seen several experts not know what it is.

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[Moonchime]

Imagine normalcy after this? Imagine letting your kids go sleepover at a friend's. Imagine staying alone. This is going to generate a lot of trauma and I sincerely hope they all get the necessary help after.

It's hard to fathom the amount of trauma this will have, no matter how it ends. It's unbelievably sad.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

It will be the biggest let down if it doesnt yield something.

Maybe all of these updates about the DNA results are intended to scare the perpetrator(s). Knowing that the FBI and LE will soon have their DNA--and continually hearing about it--will likely create enormous fear with the perps and they may make desperate phone calls or rush somewhere that would then give FBI and LE more information to use to get a conviction. MOO

 

[Luna20]

If she rushed to run the story in order to be the first to break the hot story and didn't do due-diligence with cross-checking what she heard from a trusted source, that is problematic.

At the time, though, LE was searching the family member's house and the neighboring property, and it did seem that LE was checking things out very carefully with that family member.

She did make a mistake and I would hope that she learned to be more careful. Hopefully she also learned that the media have a great deal of power in conveying what is happening in a situation, and as a media person, one needs to recognize their own authority and do their reporting respectfully.

JMO

AB is going to learn the hard way if the family goes after her for slander.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Former CIA member and FBI special agent Tracy Walder tells Page Six of the methods used to clear the family, “Authorities have been able to alibi all of them and account for their whereabouts on that evening.

“They look at their cell phone data and figure out if it matches up to where they were. They also use license plate scanners to see if they’re driving at the time and if they’re caught on cameras.”

Exclusive | How cops ruled out Nancy Guthrie’s family in her disappearance — even without a suspect: experts

Authorities can “confidently” rule out Nancy’s family in the mysterious disappearance, according to an expert.

pagesix.com

 

[swanniee11]

These TMZ ransom notes (4 now) have been pretty widely discussed here. Is it necessary to re-source every time they are mentioned? Is there some point where it’s considered general knowledge for posting purposes? TIA for any guidance on that.

I'm not sure if they are in the "media thread" which can be found at the bottom of this thread, but maybe putting all of the MSM talk about them there so we can go back and remind ourselves what was said. Just a thought IMO Sorry, I don't have it in me tonight.

 

[cherryleaf]

DBM. Replies to wrong post. Apologies

 

[VegasGirl35]

I'm confused by the chain of custody as well, but if the FBI hasn't received samples so they can do their own testing, that is insane. What is the holdup? It's been days.

 

[shonyakay]

Agree. She had a source that she trusted who gave her the information she reported. Everybody was still a suspect at that time, and also at that time, LE was conducting searches in the property near that family member as well as in that family member's house. It's plausible that she was given correct information at that moment but then things changed somewhat rapidly.

It's got to be hard to be a media person who has to make decisions in the moment as to what is true and to be trusted, and what needs much more investigation before reporting on it.

JMO

The problem isn't that AB 's source told her this, or that they may have believed it, or that she may have believed it.

The problem is that she shared it publicly with her over 300,000 YT subscribers at a time when the investigation was in it's early stages.

I think she wanted to be the first to break the story, maybe believing that he was responsible and was going to be charged.

What's more important - the integrity of an investigation or being first for clout?