AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[LarryLujack]

I noticed this earlier too. Eyes usually don’t droop until after 40 and mostly later than 50. IMO

I never see the perps eyes blink but that could be from adrenaline....

 

[Diddian]

in earpiece ??

Maybe in earpiece. Maybe just talking loudly through the window beside the door.

"Not there 'ya dummy, go further out and step down, THERE - to your right!"

(ETA: I hope they swabbed the interior of the window beside the door opening.)

 

[Black eyed pea]

I have brightened and oversaturated the video (attached). Not sure it makes any difference but why not!

This is so helpful.

 

[SRWCF]

Totally agree! I was just stating how dumb it was for him to access the front door camera from outside RATHER then the inside. That was a silly mistake. That’s the only point I was making after rewatching the footage. If this was the only entry point into the house then I get why, but it wasn’t.
It’s definitely obvious the front door was the easiest way out with her. Walking around the garage to the front carrying her would be super difficult.

And my point is your theory would be a good one if the perp was ALONE. But, if he had an accomplice then each of them has a particular job to do. Guy inside subdues NG and guy outside disables cameras, breaks lights, and also acts as the look out.

 

[NameUser]

Here is my glaring question. Ca you see anything at all after he puts flowers on the door? Who removed them? If there is even a sliver open, we should see them leave with Nancy or atleast blobs unfocused shadows moving by, right? I almost feel like the video was staged, by who I dont know. It’s all so fishy!

 

[nats-win-19]

JMO whoever cleaned the roof recently is involved. LE has hopefully looked through NG’s records to see who she’d paid within the week of her abduction and any flyers in her house, calls made to handymen, roof companies, gutter cleaning services, painters. Could be why they called the pool company and landscapers to come out- get their dna discreetly in case they performed a side job cleaning the roof.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Totally agree! I was just stating how dumb it was for him to access the front door camera from outside RATHER then the inside. That was a silly mistake. That’s the only point I was making after rewatching the footage. If this was the only entry point into the house then I get why, but it wasn’t.
It’s definitely obvious the front door was the easiest way out with her. Walking around the garage to the front carrying her would be super difficult.

If he disables from the inside there’s the risk of not being able to disable the camera if something were to go wrong. Say NG bursts out of her room with an ak-47(not being serious)Then he has to make a decision to get out fast. He leaves out the front, gets in his car that’s probably to the left of the house and he pulls forward to get out, then his vehicle may be caught on camera.

I might be giving this guy too much credit for planning idk.

MOO

 

[Andreee]

He is an elected official and is subject to criticism like anyone else. It comes with the job. What locals say IMO are things that have been noticed over the years. He is controversial here. For this case, it remains to be seen IMO still

I agree. There are occasions when LE's actions do come into question, such as the closing of the crime scene after a few days, highly unusual in a case like this apparently. Then setting up the crime scene tape back up awhile later! This has been noted by various LE themselves in the general public arena as well as posters. IMO. And I am not one to generally diss LE.

 

[maskedwoman]

Ok, There is no apparent sign of forced entry on the front door. No glass or apparent broken door in the back. So how did they get in?? Is it possible that whoever did this had a key? Not necessarily that they SHOULD have had one. Maybe they "borrowed" one and made a copy. Either that, or it was someone she trusted and she let them in. I can't imagine her letting them in, unless she knew and trusted them. Does anyone have other ideas?

 

[LRinCA]

Still chilling ~ a week after its release. There's something very nonchalant and unconcerned in his behavior.

Someone (here) once mentioned that it looked like he was showing up to an assignment and that description has stuck with me..

 

[SRWCF]

Here is my glaring question. Ca you see anything at all after he puts flowers on the door? Who removed them? If there is even a sliver open, we should see them leave with Nancy or atleast blobs unfocused shadows moving by, right? I almost feel like the video was staged, by who I dont know. It’s all so fishy!

The camera was removed. Crime scene photos show the camera missing with just the bracket remaining.

 

[Wsimm]

Can we assume that the fact that the backpack was sold exclusively at Walmart is a significant breakthrough? Apparently, Walmart is known for their comprehensive “tracking” of purchasers, even having video of cash purchases.

Also, although the rest of the items could have been purchased elsewhere, I’d think that since they’re also sold at Walmart, and the backpack is only sold there, the perp may have purchased some of the other items there as well,

I wonder how long it takes Walmart to track down these purchases?

IMO, the backpack may have been purchased at Walmart originally, but I feel suspect would have procured it 2nd hand…garage sale, thrift shop. I also feel this suspect and any others involved had no cellphones on them that night. I’m thinking if they did this case could possibly be solved by now. Too much for thought, (double masks, double gloves, mouth light, gun full backpack and again, probably no cell phones) they’re not gonna pick apparel from their personal closet….but I hope they did!

 

[cathathorse]

Just thinking about it, I wonder why he needed to go to the front door anyways. If he entered through the back door to get inside then he didn’t have to break this camera from the front. Before taking her out the front door, he could’ve placed something over that cam to break it without ever being seen.

I'm confused why he went to the front door too, especially if it is true that the sliding glass door was wide open... the sliding glass door faces the road/driveway on the left side of the house (when viewing from driveway). It didn't even look like there was a wall or fence impeding access to that sliding glass door. And earlier in the thread I think someone mentioned a neighbor said NG's bedroom is where the sliding glass door is. So much doesn't make sense. I hope soon it will.

 

[Wsimm]

I noticed this just now. Look at his droopy upper eyelids. They look to be almost covering his upper lashes. I thought he was quite young at first till I noticed this. View attachment 645655

I see downturned lashes.

 

[NameUser]

Can we assume that the fact that the backpack was sold exclusively at Walmart is a significant breakthrough? Apparently, Walmart is known for their comprehensive “tracking” of purchasers, even having video of cash purchases.

Also, although the rest of the items could have been purchased elsewhere, I’d think that since they’re also sold at Walmart, and the backpack is only sold there, the perp may have purchased some of the other items there as well,

I wonder how long it takes Walmart to track down these purchases?

I think it takes a lot of time. In Arizona there are over 120 Walmarts or Walmart affliliated stores. Let’s just assume there are 500 purchases per hour on average each 24 hours. Thats over a millions transactions to review per day. If they can pinpoint by product, lets just say each store sells 10 backpacks per day. If you looked back 5 days before the event, that is still over 6000 transactions to review. It is a lot of data to parse for sure.

If we add in California, There is over 300 stores.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I never see the perps eyes blink but that could be from adrenaline....

This brings to mind --

Although we can only see the black-and-white (or close) infrared camera result, I'm wondering if the metadata on the video allows the techies to identify what color various items are in the video?

For example: I've missed most of the posts recently but saw someone refer to the backpack as black -- do we know that definitively?

The reason I'm asking is I'm wondering if LE knows what color eyes Lantana Man has?

MOO

 

[NameUser]

The camera was removed. Crime scene photos show the camera missing with just the bracket remaining.

So after the bush was put on it, or later by law enforcement or as they were leaving?

I would like to see the crime scene photos if you have a link??

 

[Andreee]

The camera was removed. Crime scene photos show the camera missing with just the bracket remaining.

Speaking of which, I wonder if when NG was dropped off, there was any footage of the vehicle dropping her off or of her walking towards garage.

 

[HmmMysterious]

In Tricia’s chat people have said that LE has cleared the family but the FBI has not.

Yeah I only heard that from the sheriff's office. The FBI hasn't said anything.

 

[LarryLujack]

IMO, the backpack may have been purchased at Walmart originally, but I feel suspect would have procured it 2nd hand…garage sale, thrift shop. I also feel this suspect and any others involved had no cellphones on them that night. I’m thinking if they did this case could possibly be solved by now. Too much for thought, (double masks, double gloves, mouth light, gun full backpack and again, probably no cell phones) they’re not gonna pick apparel from their personal closet….but I hope they did!

So maybe they are not the idiots they are being made out to be?