AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[ArabianLover]

This case just doesn’t make any sense.

All the actual facts we know don’t really tell us anything.

There was a masked, strange acting man at the door captured on her nest camera.

We don’t know who he is. We don’t know if he took her out. We don’t know if he was walking up to every door in the neighborhood.

We know the garage door opened and closed in approximately a 2 minute interval at around 10:00pm-ish.

We have other facts too. But they’re also very vague. And are wide open to speculation.

This DNA may not prove anything. This could be the pool guy, the lawn guy, or anyone else who regularly does work for NG & he walked in to get a check, leaving his DNA. And it’s not in CODIS.

Obviously black gloves are discarded all over the place in Tucson and other places throughout the country. This could end up being another wild goose chase.

This case is frustrating. This Sheriff is odd to say the least. And to me it appears things have been mishandled.

One thing that I haven’t seen discussed is the business card from Adult Protective Services tucked in NG’s front door. That was there on the first day reporters showed up after her disappearance.

Why would that be there? Someone from APS doesn’t just drop off a card in someone’s door for no reason. Was a case filed? A complaint called in? This needs to be investigated further.

 

[armchairagatha]

Has there been an arrest related to this case? The messages from other sleuthers indicate that.

 

[Mistermagoo]

With people wanting to explore the idea of it being an SG stalker..in almost all cases people start smaller such as commenting on posts, liking things, accidently "bumping into them" or in social media, following them on all platforms, sending fan letters way before it becomes stalking and then way before it becomes kidnap and possible murder of a loved one. So question, did SG have a creepier person attached to her, a stalker? Someone sending lots of letters? Im sure the police would know this?

I would like to also ask how often the stalker kidnaps or even harms a family member to get attention. Are there any examples that we can go off of? Don't the obsessed usually go directly for the person they are obsessed with? And, you are correct, there usually is a ton of attempts to get they're attention before they do something like this. I would assume that the FBI and criminal profilers have thought of this already, I certainly hope so anyways.

 

[BellaToothless]

Yep. In many cases they may have an advantage by the unofficial suspect moving freely. Also, you cant really name someone a person of interest or suspect unless you are prepared to bring charges. As everyone knows with double jeopardy you cant try someone twice for same crime. Its imperto have all ducks in a row before you start naming names. Also, watching how they actually when pressure is applied. Do they flee the area? I think everything is a complex strategy in a complicated game in the time between having a really solid lead, but waiting on evidence. They'd really like to find her or a body to have a solid case. I think they already have the person in mind.

Double jeopardy comes into play once a jury is seated for a case a plea deal has been reached etc.

 

[RayVon]

I wonder what Nancy was doing on January 11th. I don’t see any posts on her Facebook until January 13th.
January 11th was as Sunday night


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Jan 31- Saturday night to Sunday morning
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Both visits are weekends. Why? Does perp work during the week or have kids during week?

Previously observed fewer people were around on the weekends like housekeepers, grounds keepers, caregivers. I really believe that the person or persons studied Nancy Guthries' routines before the assault.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Has there been an arrest related to this case? The messages from other sleuthers indicate that.

No arrest has been announced AFAIK

 

[Chrissymick]

I wonder the protocol to utilize genealogical dna from ancestry, 23andMe, etc?!

Seems like it would be an insane waste of time and resources to bother with genealogical testing on a similar looking glove, found 2 miles from the crime scene with no other indication that the glove is in fact from the crime.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023826833591181530

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023835546968355322

 

[SaraSmile]

My thought on this is they found it somewhere either inside or out that they could tell was connected to the crime, maybe where there was obvious evidence of a struggle. JMO of course.

Yes, that’s my Impression, too! Struggle on bed.

Very unfortunate but not surprising. CeCe Moore on NBC Nightly News last night was pessimistic that the glove found was going to be helpful (too far from the crime scene, no female DNA, etc

That’s ok, not unexpected. Now continue with IGG to determine whose DNA was found inside.

JMO

 

[armchairagatha]

What a DAY

Is this related to this case?

 

[Napoli]

Nancy Guthrie hunt back to square one as glove offers no leads

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos admitted to Fox News that the black nitrate glove found two miles from Guthrie's home on Sunday offered no new leads in the ongoing hunt for the 84-year-old.

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Nanos said he believes it was a kidnapping. On Fox . Dna found 2 miles away had no hit on codis. No codis hit on home dna either. It was NOT burglary gone wrong. Targeted kidnaping . He believes the person knew who they were going after. MY STALKER THEORY LIVES!

They have not said the DNA found in the home is not in codis but we can guess? it's not because there's been no arrest. The glove is likely unrelated. JMO

It was just on FOX. Snippet of interview with Nanos and that guy with the British accent. NO DNA has been found in Codis..House or glove from a mile away. My guess is there will be full interview later but i cant find this on Fox. Watch Fox..lol

 

[cait2007]

An arrest was made, but it wasn’t said to be apart of this case. However, it was outed that it was one of the individuals that was in the RR during the traffic stop and seizure of the vehicle. I believe the arrest has something to do with authorities finding drugs in the vehicle, not related to NG. Two of the individuals in the car had priors for selling drugs.

 

[janjan765]

What a DAY

I believe this is a rumor that is running rampant on ‘X’.

 

[Monepone]

To those here who are still thinking that the perp on the porch was wearing a realistic mask underneath the ski mask, studies have been done on this and under near infrared light or NIR (what nest doorbell cameras use at night) it's quite visually apparent someone is wearing a mask.You can look at one study here. Bhattacharjee_BTAS2018_2018.pdf https://share.google/nfzuLVoLnnjKDPMTo

Notice the mask looks quite different under IR light vs human skin. There is no soft glow and areas where skin meets mask like around eye openings are quite visible. Based on this information, I'm certain that the perp was not wearing a mask beneath his ski mask.

 

[jenimeni23]

An arrest was made, but it wasn’t said to be apart of this case. However, it was outed that it was one of the individuals that was in the RR during the traffic stop and seizure of the vehicle. I believe the arrest has something to do with authorities finding drugs in the vehicle, not related to NG. Two of the individuals in the car had priors for selling drugs.

The arrest I see is not for this year even. So its not linked at all. Unless I dont see something.

 

[thefragile7393]

Pima County Sheriff Nanos tells me his understanding is that the DNA from that glove found near Nancy Guthrie’s home was submitted to the FBI CODIS database this morning.


The company BlueFly has issued us this statement on their “signal sniffer” work in the Guthrie case regarding her pacemaker: “At the beginning of February, the Pima County Sheriff’s Department requested our support, and we immediately began deployment of BlueFly® units and personnel to Arizona to assist with the search for Nancy Guthrie. BlueFly® is a Bluetooth and Wi-Fi sensor intended for search and rescue operations in challenging environments. The technology has been used on a variety of air and ground vehicles, and on foot in austere terrain. It provides first responders with a heat map to identity signals within a search area. BlueFly® was used on Feb. 3 during the Pima County Sheriff’s Department Search and Rescue helicopter search over the Guthrie neighborhood. The technology was subsequently used for additional search operations by helicopter, ground vehicles, and on foot. Due to the sensitivity of the investigation, we will not provide additional details on ongoing operations.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023822159534342185

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023825966234304867

I wish there were ways to invest in bluefly. I’m loving this technology that they have.

 

[warp3dwing]

To anyone with legal expertise:

Would (or could) the federal warrants issued to authorize the SWAT action also include a warrant for a buccal swab from the four detainees? Or would that likely require more definitive evidence of involvement? Might any of their DNA already be in CODIS for prior convictions in AZ?

 

[Cassie P]

Seems like it would be an insane waste of time and resources to bother with genealogical testing on a similar looking glove, found 2 miles from the crime scene with no other indication that the glove is in fact from the crime.

Seems like a long shot for sure. Maybe it's all they have right now.

 

[Moonchime]

Thank you! I know this is probably a stupid question but how does he know this information? I know who he is and that he's in Tucson, just trying to understand how he's getting the info.

EDIT: typo

Brian Entin has a reputation for journalistic integrity and for cultivating trusted relationships with credible sources. That trust is evident~he was the only journalist provided with the address of the SWAT raid Friday night.

 

[Napoli]

I would like to also ask how often the stalker kidnaps or even harms a family member to get attention. Are there any examples that we can go off of? Don't the obsessed usually go directly for the person they are obsessed with? And, you are correct, there usually is a ton of attempts to get they're attention before they do something like this. I would assume that the FBI and criminal profilers have thought of this already, I certainly hope so anyways.

Too often if it is your family member. Statistics are just that. Numbers. How often are planes flown into buildings on purpose for terrorism ala 911? It still happened. JMO