• #33,602
I've never posted here before, but I do read as many comments as I can! (Not all 1,680 pages though! So sorry if this has been asked before, but I haven't seen it.) A bunch of us were at dinner, talking about the Guthrie family; they must be going through hell right now. It's so awful. But one of the people at dinner asked an interesting question, and I'm curious if anyone here knows the answer. He asked, "Why can't SG just offer $1 million to anyone with information leading to the return of her mom?" Wouldn't that get a lot of people's attention and possibly cause somebody in the know to squeal on the kidnapper? It would seem like so much more of an incentive than $50k or $100k or even now $200k. Couldn't that help move the case along faster?

Not a bad idea, but she probably knows more about what is going on and has surmised (or been advised) that no amount of money offered will likely suffice. Especially if it is a stalker, one of those maligned online thrill cults, or even ideologically/foreign/revenge driven. We don't even know that she or others haven't already ponied up the ransom and been burned. We just know that no one deposited a ransom into that particular bitcoin account.

JMO.
 
  • #33,603
Interesting-

He says 80% of names he was shown were Hispanic and had facial hair the way he imagined the person in the suspect video having. He found no match to anyone that had been to his shop.

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The owner of Tucson gun shop Armor Bearer Arms describes what an FBI agent showed him as he asked for details on gun sales in the past year related to the Guthrie investigation.

“The facial hair that I saw in that video reminds me a lot of these photographs.”

#nancyguthrie #abduction #truecrime #investigation

 
  • #33,604
This video is interesting; the FBI is at NG’s neighbor’s home.

I’m curious if this is the neighbor that lost her power, or just the video on her camera?

The phone in the agent’s hand doesn’t appear to be his (IMO) many of my female friends’ phones are encased in multi-colored flowers.

When I lost power on one of my Ring cameras, I had to be next to it to it with my phone to repower/refigure it.

I wonder if that camera had a view of NG’s home or the street in front?

MOOOOO…🐮
It appears to be a Ring flood light camera. I own the Ring cam system and there is a reset button on the top that looks like the agent is holding down to reset with the phone. I'm guessing he had to reset and sync it back up to the owners phone after they took video from it. JMO.

Let's hope the neighbors had a subscription!
 
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The only thing I can think of is that it relates to the new extended timeline [as per new information] going as far back as January 11.
Even if that's the case, that's a huge opportunity lost. Local recordings most likely would be overwritten and cloud data could easily be deleted or overwritten as well. Some cloud plans only store videos for 14 days, maybe even less.
 
  • #33,606
BBM. this guy is a genius! The end of article surprised me... can you imagine howwhat else can invent?

In addition, if the pacemaker has been damaged, either deliberately or accidentally by Nancy’s kidnappers, that would also prevent the sniffer from working.

That’s why Kennedy’s latest project is an app to track Nancy’s Bluetooth device.

“I also created with one of my co-workers an iPhone app and an Android app. If we were able to get the physical address of the implantable device, we could literally turn that entire community or city into scanning devices,” he explained.

“Everybody could download the app, hit ‘Find Nancy,’ and if they got any hits, it would tell law enforcement the locations of those. We actually put that out as well,” Kennedy said.

“I could literally publish an app tomorrow that every single person could download on their phone, and you literally hit ‘Find Nancy,’ and it will scan in every geographic location where they’re at for that specific address and then tell the FBI, ‘Hey, there’s a hit here. You need to go here to start to triangulate where it’s happening,'” he said.

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It's unlikely anyone within 30 feet of NG is going to say so. IMO
 
  • #33,607
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LE cleared the family but (fact) they continued to visit AG's home, multiple times...
LE has not ever (fact) said definitively who dropped NG off the night of her disappearance...
LE flip-flops constantly (meaning the sheriff) on even the slightest details...entry/exit, etc...that's a fact, not JMO...
LE (MOO) and the FBI know exactly what's going on...or...IMO...they're both completely inept.

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  • #33,608
it could be that they actually have a super top secret way of knowing where those bitcoin wallets are generated and they know this ransom note is coming from a foreign country far far away or something like that and that's why noting has happened with ransom. Seems like TMZ could easily pay this snitch his measly 50 or 100 k and find out for themselves. mOO
 
  • #33,609
I have followed many, many cases here on WS, though not too many very recently. The biggest complaint about LE in the past was always not hearing enough from them. It blows my mind how common the LE bashing is on this thread, and the complaining that there is too much info, that the info changes over time, and so on. Despite the moderators requesting that we stick to the facts and give LE a break. When they look at one thing, people chime in, “really? What a goose chase”. I want to remind those people, they are perfectly capable of pursuing multiple theories at one time and nothing is a waste of time until a suspect is arrested. They can send multiple DNA samples for IGG. They can entertain multiple theories at one time. They can actually release intentionally vague info, or intentionally misleading info.
People complaining about how much time this is taking, it isn’t a TV detective show, and Idaho (which did take months) was abnormally fast to reach a conclusion.
Please stop bashing LE.
 
  • #33,610
It appears to be a Ring flood light camera. I own the Ring cam system and there is a reset button on the top that looks like the agent is holding down to reset with the phone. I'm guessing he had to reset and synch it back up to the owners phone after they took video from it. JMO.

Let's hope the neighbors had a subscription!

Or if they didn't have a subscription he probably reset and sync'd to his phone to send any unique identifiers of that specific camera in for analysis.

JMO.
 
  • #33,611
He didn't take the camera. I think he was startled to see the camera light go on as he approached and just wanted to disconnect it. I'm beginning to think they were at the wrong house.
“Nanos provided new details of activity after Nancy Guthrie was last seen. At approximately 1:47 a.m. Sunday, the doorbell camera at her home disconnected and authorities do not have it in their possession, he said.” (BBM)


JMO
 
  • #33,612
I'm not the professional of course, but it would seem more useful to do the genetic genealogy on the unknown DNA found in the house. MOO
Agreed! The glove seemed like such a long shot once it was established it wasn't recovered from the home.
 
  • #33,613
BBM. this guy is a genius! The end of article surprised me... can you imagine howwhat else can invent?

In addition, if the pacemaker has been damaged, either deliberately or accidentally by Nancy’s kidnappers, that would also prevent the sniffer from working.

That’s why Kennedy’s latest project is an app to track Nancy’s Bluetooth device.

“I also created with one of my co-workers an iPhone app and an Android app. If we were able to get the physical address of the implantable device, we could literally turn that entire community or city into scanning devices,” he explained.

“Everybody could download the app, hit ‘Find Nancy,’ and if they got any hits, it would tell law enforcement the locations of those. We actually put that out as well,” Kennedy said.

“I could literally publish an app tomorrow that every single person could download on their phone, and you literally hit ‘Find Nancy,’ and it will scan in every geographic location where they’re at for that specific address and then tell the FBI, ‘Hey, there’s a hit here. You need to go here to start to triangulate where it’s happening,'” he said.

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We already have a network that is theoretically capable of identifying that device and its geolocation and it's widely deployed. It's called Amazon Sidewalk.
 
  • #33,614
It appears to be a Ring flood light camera. I own the Ring cam system and there is a reset button on the top that looks like the agent is holding down to reset with the phone. I'm guessing he had to reset and synch it back up to the owners phone after they took video from it. JMO.

Let's hope the neighbors had a subscription!
even if they didn't could the Google not do like they did on Nancy's ...extract the data. this is REALLY setting a new precedent however....demand Google or Ring or whoever get the info even without a sub
 
  • #33,615
Not a bad idea, but she probably knows more about what is going on and has surmised (or been advised) that no amount of money offered will likely suffice. Especially if it is a stalker, one of those maligned online thrill cults, or even ideologically/foreign/revenge driven. We don't even know that she or others haven't already ponied up the ransom and been burned. We just know that no one deposited a ransom into that particular bitcoin account.

JMO.
Yes, all of that makes sense. I have also wondered if they have paid someone and gotten nothing back. But I was thinking that maybe she should have just done that from day one and only paid the million after they got her back. If I had the money, that’s what I would want to do. But I am sure she was listening to whatever LE and the FBI told her to do. This is such a nightmare-praying it ends soon.
 
  • #33,616
Running an AI facial recognition program through the Arizona DMV should yield some suspects. Surmise that it’s a male, you got the distance between the eyes, start out in the Tucson area, you got the approximate height…tech will get this solved MOO.
 
  • #33,617
Interesting-

He says 80% of names he was shown were Hispanic and had facial hair the way he imagined the person in the suspect video having. He found no match to anyone that had been to his shop.

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The owner of Tucson gun shop Armor Bearer Arms describes what an FBI agent showed him as he asked for details on gun sales in the past year related to the Guthrie investigation.

“The facial hair that I saw in that video reminds me a lot of these photographs.”

#nancyguthrie #abduction #truecrime #investigation

Found this in the TMZ article about the 40 pictures, I assume it is safe to show here, if not I will take it down

 

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“Nanos provided new details of activity after Nancy Guthrie was last seen. At approximately 1:47 a.m. Sunday, the doorbell camera at her home disconnected and authorities do not have it in their possession, he said.” (BBM)


JMO
They did not have it in their possession because they sent it to Google. If you read my past posts you will see the press conference where he says they have sent the camera to the "tech company" for analysis. He said that in the Feb 5th press conference.
 
  • #33,619
If the video was always “meant to be seen”, why would he go to the efforts to remove and take the camera?

JMO
To make us think there was a legit reason he was out there in that "costume."
 
  • #33,620
Interesting-

He says 80% of names he was shown were Hispanic and had facial hair the way he imagined the person in the suspect video having. He found no match to anyone that had been to his shop.

——-
The owner of Tucson gun shop Armor Bearer Arms describes what an FBI agent showed him as he asked for details on gun sales in the past year related to the Guthrie investigation.

“The facial hair that I saw in that video reminds me a lot of these photographs.”

#nancyguthrie #abduction #truecrime #investigation


I thought lantana man looked Hispanic from the get. No racism at all intended.
 

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