AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[LAhiker]

I don't believe the guy in the video would have been able to use the gun if his life depended on it given those clunky gloves. I really believe we're going to eventually learn that he was planted there as a distraction, that the video was always meant to be seen to distract us from the real perp. I'll try to make this the last time I state that case today. I just think we're thinking too much about him and should really be looking elsewhere.

I doubt lantana guy was just a distraction. But even if he was meant to be a distraction, if they can catch him, that is likely to lead them to his accomplices.

Here is the video from NBC News pointing out what could be a ring on the glove at 0:45

New clues in search for Nancy Guthrie

The Pima County sheriff says DNA from a glove found two miles from Nancy Guthrie’s home does not match profiles in the national database, but that DNA taken from her property could belong to a suspect. NBC News’ Liz Kreutz reports.

www.nbcnews.com

Regarding this possible ring, it would be great if the glove they found bore its imprint. That would help confirm that it really was lantana guy's glove instead of a random glove that's similar.

JMO

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

The fear of getting caught makes people think irrationally and their behavior reflects that. If NG recognized his voice or look from a previous encounter, possibly as a lawn or pool maintenance guy for example, he would probably have panicked.

He either flees or takes the old lady with him until he can decide what to do with her.
I believe he left her somewhere in the desert, possibly tied up, and did so very quickly after the event. All my opinion, of course.

I think that’s why sg came out with that video saying “you’re not lost or alone.”

It’s possible IMO the FBI, just in case this was a burglary gone wrong, theorized the perpetrator knew NG and while in the house got recognized by NG or NG somehow got a look at his face but he could not take action to silence her there which would indicate weakness. So he takes her with him but he can’t let her go because she knows who he is and knows what he looks like. Eventually out of desperation he gets the nerve to silence her but it’s the inaction at the crime scene that led the FBI to conclude that he’s a weak criminal. The gun might have been just for intimidation.

MOO

 

[britinsussex]

Possibly a pinky signet ring.

Or a small gold coin ring. jmo

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

For 20+ people??? Doubtful

They have his height and possibly other characteristics they could use to filter it down.

 

[Andreee]

During an active missing person investigation? When they immediately called in homicide detectives? Not directing this towards you. My brain just won't make it make sense. JMO, MOO, etc.

I am not sure, can't recall where I read about it. I would like to know when the card was put there.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Well if you believe TMZ that’s exactly what they did.

For 20+ people??? Doubtful

As for how those 40 names were selected, we're told authorities have identified the type of holster the man was wearing, and they have found around 40 people in the area who purchased the item.

Glove in Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping Case Re-Tested in Arizona, No DNA Hit

The glove authorities found 2 miles from Nancy Guthrie's home has been DNA tested in Florida, but there's still another step before the DNA profile can be entered in the CODIS system ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ.

www.tmz.com

 

[louvillian08]

He didn't take the camera. I think he was startled to see the camera light go on as he approached and just wanted to disconnect it. I'm beginning to think they were at the wrong house.

He did take the camera. In addition to the other sources people have provided, the FBI directly referenced this in their statement that accompanied the release of the pictures and videos.

“…continue to recover any images or video footage from Nancy Guthrie’s home that may have been lost, corrupted, or inaccessible due to a variety of factors - including the removal of recording devices”

 

[sapphire blue]

If anyone remembers the guy interviewed at least twice, who some people in this thread found a tad suspicious, and who was calling himself a “neighbour” while trying to push the blame on TC, there appears to be someone in Tucson with the same first name as him and whose last name relates to Friday night’s SWAT events. Could be complete coincidence, of course, but if so, it’s an interesting one all the same.

JMO

The so called ‘neighbour’ who lived about 15 minutes away?

 

[Napoli]

The perp(s) were smart/lucky enough to avoid capture this long, but they haven't gained anything. I think it was a kidnapping but unfortunately have the feeling Ms. Guthrie did not survive the first few hours. Hence there was never proof of life. JMO.

Think delusional...It was in the perps best interest that he keep her alive if he was a love sick SG celebrity
stalker...OH>>>>the conversations they could have! Oh the value to him ( and possibly the the additional monetary value) to have NG alive relating details about SG. New intimate details.. Now, many of us are moms. What would you tell this delusional, unhinged stalker about your daughter that would placate him AND protect your daughter at the same time.? I would be telling him stories, fake stories. However, he wans facts. A mom would be protecting her child Assuming she MIGHT be still alive, this is the scenario I see.. A direct narratuve frim the mom all about SG from the time she was born... DETAILS! She might still be alive.. Blood on scene? If she was really on blood thinners ( was that confirmed?), an elbow to her nose during an inadvertent struggle could easily cause that. JMO MOO

 

[huckleberryhound]

I wonder if the glove had a few lantana flowers stuck to it or something? It is just hard to believe that they are doing genealogical testing on a random glove they found 2 miles away with nothing to really connect it to NG's house.

 

[SMK777]

The so called ‘neighbour’ who lived about 15 minutes away?

Yes, him.

 

[Monepone]

Well if you believe TMZ that’s exactly what they did.


As for how those 40 names were selected, we're told authorities have identified the type of holster the man was wearing, and they have found around 40 people in the area who purchased the item.

Glove in Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping Case Re-Tested in Arizona, No DNA Hit

The glove authorities found 2 miles from Nancy Guthrie's home has been DNA tested in Florida, but there's still another step before the DNA profile can be entered in the CODIS system ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ.

www.tmz.com

Who were mysteriously all Hispanic men with a mustache and beard.

 

[SRWCF]

So “The day she was reported missing a neighbor called Adult Protective Services,” he says. “They sent an investigator to check on her.” Sounds like after, but why did the neighbor report then?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023909355750650040

When I had to call the Yuma, AZ APS on my mom with Dementia due to self-neglect in December 2025, it was a Friday and they told me it could take as many as 5 business days to get a caseworker out to visit her. They actualy went to see her 3 days later on Monday.

 

[Monepone]

It is just hard to believe that they are doing genealogical testing on a random glove they found 2 miles away with nothing to really connect it to NG's house.

It think it tracks perfectly with this investigation.

 

[densogirl]

Does it look like a horseshoe-shaped ring to anyone else?

ETA: JMO - MOO


This is a screenshot from the link (New clues in search for Nancy Guthrie):

Looks like it might be a pinky ring or an initial ring. JMO. I kept trying to see the left hand, when the tape and photos were released to see if there was a wedding band.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I can't believe the interest in the neighbor's camera on day what? 16. I would have thought that would be first day.

I have known folks on the East Coast and colder climates who “winter” in AZ in second homes. Perhaps these neighbors have been out of town. When they returned and reviewed their security video accounts realized they have something they think relevant to this case.

As far as the men getting in the car in neighbor’s driveway, do we /the reporter know for certain this was the neighbor’s car? I’m wondering if it’s the car the men drove. If that car has evidentiary value, I don’t think they would have both gone and sat inside. MOO.

I am speculating about all this.

 

[Idreamofgenie]

This may help some of our sleuthers understand how genetic/forensic genealogy works:

(Sacremento County DA’s department)

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Who were mysteriously all Hispanic men with a mustache and beard.

The gun shop owner says they looked Hispanic in 80% of the photos with unusual names.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023915696980455871

 

[Arkay]

I have seen several posts that say "he may have used the flowers to lure her to the door...". I think that I missed something. What flowers? Not those weedy-looking things that the perp pulled out and used to try to cover the camera?

And who gets a flower delivery at 2 in the morning?

IMO

 

[sapphire blue]

Or a small gold coin ring. jmo

Or a religious medallion ring