AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SMK777]

Now I know this theory is a little out there but do you think it is possible that a terrorist organization recruited some illegal aliens to kidnap Nancy for ransom (due to Savannah's fame and wealth) so they could use the money to buy weapons for war? They were asking for millions after all.

Let me know if I am crazy.

At this point in time, that's as good a theory as any

 

[cady]

If SG had or has a stalker, she would likely know it and it would be one of the first things she would tell LE. Possibly, that's why Nanos is quite sure that this was a targeted kidnapping. jmo

 

[SMK777]

If SG had or has a stalker, she would likely know it and it would be one of the first things she would tell LE. Possibly, that's why Nanos is quite sure that this was a targeted kidnapping. jmo

Right, a targeted abduction.
So not a "burglary gone wrong" as they were saying.

 

[Fargo]

Now I know this theory is a little out there but do you think it is possible that a terrorist organization recruited some illegal aliens to kidnap Nancy for ransom (due to Savannah's fame and wealth) so they could use the money to buy weapons for war? They were asking for millions after all.

Let me know if I am crazy.

Maybe not crazy but unkind to invoke illegal aliens with no basis. IMO

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

This gem show angle with a possible mistaken address has some merit, IMO.

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

This gem show angle with a possible mistaken address has some merit, IMO.

And not just the prime actors, but the peripheral players. I think that’s what LE is circling in on.

 

[dogmom805]

Looks like a Walkie talkie to me.

Burner phone?

 

[shonyakay]

At this point in time, that's as good a theory as any

Well, Nanos says targeted kidnapping not burglary gone wrong.
The man at the door looks Hispanic or possibly Middle eastern.
The FBI are taking pictures of various men with unusual names to gun shops to ask if they bought a gun there.

 

[Leo_]

Welcome to WS!

I totally agree, people have their own unique way of standing and moving. Somebody could recognize him from that alone. But would a person think, 'no my family member/friend/co-worker would never do such a thing', and not turn the man in? Or did one or more people turn him in, but that tip is buried in the 18,000+ other tips they have received? MOO

Thank you — I agree. Even if someone recognizes him, they may hesitate or assume it couldn’t be that person. Hopefully any tips based on recognition are carefully reviewed. I just thought the silhouette might be distinctive enough that someone who knows him could notice.

 

[cady]

Right, a targeted abduction.
So not a "burglary gone wrong" as they were saying.

Seems like there would be lots of evidence of it, though, if stalker, within SG's social media. jmo

 

[Leo_]

Welcome! I look forward to your future posts!

Thank you — I appreciate it.

 

[Kalanit]

I think it's two different individuals. The guy without the backpack, his jacket looks like it has a design on it. Camouflage, maybe? The guy with the backpack, his jacket was different. No design. MOO.

To me it looks like dark spots on his jacket. I am hoping that is not blood. If they were able to get nest cam footage after the camera was disconnected at 1:47 a.m. this could be sometime around or after 2:12 a.m. Maybe while the perp was in the process of getting Nancy out of the front door. Notice how the doormat area is cropped out in this picture too.

The guy with no backpack has black on the side of his shoes while the other doesn't. Same build though. Pockets might be different on the pants. One seems to have side entry to the pockets but can't tell on the other pants. The head shape seems a bit different on the guy with no backpack, possibly a longer forehead and possibly a bit taller - not sure. Definitely a pattern (camo?) on the one jacket but the other jacket seems solid color.
MOO

You can see the camouflage pattern (spots) on lantana guy's jacket clearly in the first picture in this article:

Police release surveillance photo in Nancy Guthrie case

The FBI stated the images show an individual appearing to tamper wtih a camera.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Well, Nanos says targeted kidnapping not burglary gone wrong.
The man at the door looks Hispanic or possibly Middle eastern.
The FBI are taking pictures of various men with unusual names to gun shops to ask if they bought a gun there.

Why would any smart criminal buy a legal gun in the same place they committed a capital crime?

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Why would any smart criminal buy a legal gun in the same place they committed a capital crime?

The fact that they are spending resources running down this dead end gives me real questions about the strategy.

 

[VegasGirl35]

Why would any smart criminal buy a legal gun in the same place they committed a capital crime?

They wouldn't. The FBI is throwing spaghetti at the wall.

 

[SMK777]

Well, Nanos says targeted kidnapping not burglary gone wrong.
The man at the door looks Hispanic or possibly Middle eastern.
The FBI are taking pictures of various men with unusual names to gun shops to ask if they bought a gun there.

It's possible, yes.

 

[Elle*Bee]

This gem show angle with a possible mistaken address has some merit, IMO.

I initially wondered about that. I'm a jewelry artist and it's on my bucket list to attend the Tucson Gem Show. I think I'll be able to next year. My hope is NG is found safe and that the case is solved by then. I'm not optimistic, but I'd love to be wrong.

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Gun show purchase maybe. But nobody gets into this without already having a clean gun.

 

[stmichael]

I am curious, what color do you believe that holster to be? I had seen this one (which does sell from Walmart), which was made of black polyester and polyester lights up like it's electrified under IR light (white). The strap and shape also fit within the style. I'd like to know what details you see to be different, just for my own knowledge base and to search around. I don't find others like this one, though I am sure ebay has them. ( I don't buy cheap holsters, so have no frame of reference).

Strategy Brand Large Frame Polyester Revolver Holster. Fits 4 - 6.5 in Barrel, Right Dexterity - Walmart.com

Buy Strategy Brand Large Frame Polyester Revolver Holster. Fits 4 - 6.5 in Barrel, Right Dexterity at Walmart.com

www.walmart.com

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These type of universal holsters and clones have been around since the 70s. Is it possible this is one he bought from Walmart, sure, but it's a very common generic pattern and other brands very similar to it are currently sold. Nothing distinguishable about it, as generic as it gets. Over the decades many companies have made and discontinued clones of that.

They all have belt loops and an adjustable safety strap with a snap. No way of matching a common patterned "universal" revolver holster nor confirm it's color (they all are usual poly or cordura nylon) in the IR glow of poor Nest cam footage. Though if it's just IR glow off the poly that is reflecting why is the edge trim and safety strap contrasting in black?

Just as there is no way to confirm from that footage that he even has a real gun in there (which could be why he has a semi in a revolver holster). I still don't understand why he felt the need for a belt loop holster at all, especially if it was mismatched to his gun (he could have just "Mexican carried" or used a proper conceal carry method with more effectiveness) but it is one of the "lost in translation" aspects of his get-up. Reminds me of the investigators saying they found a glove that visually matched the one he's wearing (oh, the dime-a-dozen nitrile or latex disposable glove in popular black that probably 1000s of workers use in the greater Tucson area?) Look I get what they are doing but even getting some match in this needle in a haystack is hardly a definitive connection.

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Do we know if anything was stolen from the gem show and if there was a bigger target that the burglary crew missed? Maybe they decided it was worth it to make another pass at the home of the owner.