AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Great

Great quote

And a great film.

 

[ab01]

1000 POSTS LATER, people speculating on AI vs real images and 2 perps...I dont think there were 2 perps. As everyone knows by now, I have felt from the beginning this was a kidnapper who had a delusional fascination with SG. She is his fantasy girlfriend .He is a marginalized, socially inadequate, man who has a poetic soul and finds his meaning in life through movies and TV. He is fixated on SG. Probably has an area in his home, like an altar, that has her photo, articles about her etc. He thinks when she is on the TODAY show that every word she speaks is CODE, directed at him. He became restless and decided he must have her but he can't. He went for her mom, instead. NOW HE HAS SG's attention. He also has a trophy..SG's mom. He may also have other trophies he took from the home, family photos, or lingerie from SG's old bedroom, for example.

MOTIVE will solve this case, imo. Obsessed stalker. Someone knows him and his devotion to SG. Watching the Today show daily, saving every program she is on, perhaps mentioning her during casual conversations once too often. This is not a 2 perp crime. This guy acted alone. MOO JMO

While this would create an interesting story line for a lifetime movie.

I can’t remember there ever being a case where a famous persons mother was kidnapped due to an obsession with the victims daughter. Or even a non famous persons mother for that matter.

 

[teeandcee]

I also think that’s what he was doing: trying to hang the clump from the top of the camera.

I just see a lot of posts about the suspect using the lantana to remove the Nest, and I’d love to substantiate or discount that idea if possible.

Someone out there must have lantana, a Nest doorbell, and some gloves for an experiment!

I think the ones grown at Nancy’s are the purple ones, right? Those are hybrids and grow in a low sprawling way. The stems are far too soft and flexible to be used as a tool. Even the wild ones that grow into large shrubs with much thicker stems wouldn’t work as tools.

I’ve grown the wild ones, the purple sprawlers, and the yellow sprawlers.

Whether the porch guy knows this or not is anyone’s guess.

 

[cady]

According to TMZ, this latest ransom demand does "graphicly" describe what will happen if they don't pay (at 1:40): Nancy Guthrie Update: Possibly In Mexico...

UhhhhHuh jmo

 

[TexLil]

I partially agree with your theory. Mainly that it is one guy. I base this on the internet searches done prior to the kidnapping.
Based on those searches my theory is that a person from Arizona wanted big money and planned this months before.
He found a celeb's mom living close enough in an area that he is familiar with.
He scoped the area both online and in person, i think.
Before i knew about these internet searches i really thought robbery gone wrong and Nancy is sadly no longer amongst us.
Now however, i start to believe that there is a possibility she is being kept alive in AZ en that this was a planned kidnapping for ransom.
Why else would someone so specifically websearch her house (both her adress and pictures) and the salary of SG?
This case has me going in circles continuously.
JMO

Source info on websearches:

Internet user searched for Nancy Guthrie's address and daughter's salary before 'Today' host's mother vanished

Google searches for Nancy Guthrie's address occurred weeks before the suspected kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's mother in Tucson, Arizona.

www.foxnews.com

Agreed... Until the (assumed) fact that the kidnapper has/had no means/plan for giving proof of life. That's where the planned kidnapping falls apart for me. Especially given that SG said they will pay. All MOO but I think if there was proof the ransom demander had Nancy alive, SG would pay immediately. But sadly, it seems like the ransom demands are a separate crime by a separate (evil) person(s) . MOO

 

[Lebowski]

Would some9ne be willing to tell me the story behind this image?


I think the ones grown at Nancy’s are the purple ones, right? Those are hybrids and grow in a low sprawling way. The stems are far too soft and flexible to be used as a tool. Even the wild ones that grow into large shrubs with much thicker stems wouldn’t work as tools.

I’ve grown the wild ones, the purple sprawlers, and the yellow sprawlers.

Whether the porch guy knows this or not is anyone’s guess.

if he needed them to be stiff, he would have realized quickly that they were inadequate.

no, i think the most likely explanation is that he was using them to try to cover the camera. and the long amount of time he spent screwing around with them was because he was trying to anchor them in place. hook them on something or jam a stem into a crack. so he could leave the camera covered and go about his business.

 

[NameUser]

Could some one who has done it before give us an idea of if vehicles are checked crossing the border the the US into Mexico? Would it be difficult to say bring someone across in a trunk or prone in the back seat?

By done it before I mean cross the boarder, not kidnap someone.

 

[teeandcee]

if he needed them to be stiff, he would have realized quickly that they were inadequate.

no, i think the most likely explanation is that he was using them to try to cover the camera. and the long amount of time he spent screwing around with them was because he was trying to anchor them in place. hook them on something or jam a stem into a crack. so he could leave the camera covered and go about his business.

I agree. I do wonder why he bothered since his face was captured anyway.

 

[samiam33]

I don't think the LE is going to state anything about this at this moment.
Idk if it is related but Sheriff Nanos said he believes Nancy is being kept nearby, whatever he based this on besides his belief i really have no clue
My theory is also partially made of hope that Nancy is not discarded somewhere because that's just heartbreaking to think about

Maybe he believes that because they haven't been able to pick up a vehicle leaving and going any distance where it might have been picked up by a camera

 

[Napoli]

Let's look at something else. SG said in one of her Instagram videos. WE UNDERSTAND WE WILL PAY. That is a line from the Mel Gibson movie Ransom. SHE WASNT OFFERING TO PAY POSSIBLY. MORE MOVIE LINGO. moo jmo

 

[SlimPickens]

1000 POSTS LATER, people speculating on AI vs real images and 2 perps...I dont think there were 2 perps. As everyone knows by now, I have felt from the beginning this was a kidnapper who had a delusional fascination with SG. She is his fantasy girlfriend .He is a marginalized, socially inadequate, man who has a poetic soul and finds his meaning in life through movies and TV. He is fixated on SG. Probably has an area in his home, like an altar, that has her photo, articles about her etc. He thinks when she is on the TODAY show that every word she speaks is CODE, directed at him. He became restless and decided he must have her but he can't. He went for her mom, instead. NOW HE HAS SG's attention. He also has a trophy..SG's mom. He may also have other trophies he took from the home, family photos, or lingerie from SG's old bedroom, for example.

MOTIVE will solve this case, imo. Obsessed stalker. Someone knows him and his devotion to SG. Watching the Today show daily, saving every program she is on, perhaps mentioning her during casual conversations once too often. This is not a 2 perp crime. This guy acted alone. MOO JMO

Hope LE really dove deep into her social media interactions then. Repetitive commenters posting conversationally, etc. If this is the case, there is no way he wouldn't have commented 7 billion times, and probably fairly weird ones.

JMO.

 

[captdj]

Looks like a Walkie talkie to me.

I thought it appeared striped two colors like nylon twisted cord from walmart in right jacket pocket.
Left pants pocket looked like maybe the size of keys and right pants pocket looked like my shorter filet knife... but that's all my speculation.
His pants pockets had stuff and so was his jacket pockets.

 

[Gunther Toody]

What specific proof is there that he was in the house over 40 minutes?

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Interesting. So there has been a 5th letter now demanding close to $6mil in a cryptocurrency other than bitcoin (evolving to be more sophisticated and less traceable as they watch this unfold) and having some sort of media involvement (sounds like attention seeking). FBI Contacts Mexican Authorities in Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping, New Ransom Demand

So if NG was taken over the border in the days after the abduction, where did they stay during those days in the US? Some sort of temporary housing, motel, airbnb? Doubtful that they sat in a car in the desert for days on end. In Mexico, they could simply ask NG "what meds do you take? And then just go buy them without a prescription." This would favor not spending too much time in the US before the border crossing (if that did happen) to ensure that she got the medications she needs.

That seems real risky to go through a border checkpoint with a kidnapped victim. Not saying it couldn’t happen but that could blow up real quick.

MOO.

 

[submarine7]

Could some one who has done it before give us an idea of if vehicles are checked crossing the border the the US into Mexico? Would it be difficult to say bring someone across in a trunk or prone in the back seat?

By done it before I mean cross the boarder, not kidnap someone.

I think it could be fairly easy. I've crossed without hassles more than once.

 

[cady]

Agreed... Until the (assumed) fact that the kidnapper has/had no means/plan for giving proof of life. That's where the planned kidnapping falls apart for me. Especially given that SG said they will pay. All MOO but I think if there was proof the ransom demander had Nancy alive, SG would pay immediately. But sadly, it seems like the ransom demands are a separate crime by a separate (evil) person(s) . MOO

And TMZ is milking it for all its worth. Report ransom notes to FBI and be done with it. It is a ploy for clicks and viewership. MY Opinion. TMZ is encouraging more of this.

 

[aamillaa]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024208192335708259

 

[1.618]

Ya know, I had not thought of this before...about the ease of getting prescriptions across the border compared to in the U.S. That idea would make it at least slightly-more plausible that she would have the meds she needs IF she is actually being held in Mexico.

Yes. Also, many residents of Arizona and southern AZ have family in Mexico and travel there frequently so they are more facile with traveling back and forth.

 

[Bluewing3102]

What specific proof is there that he was in the house over 40 minutes?

The time cameras first detected movement around the house 1:47AM (IIRC) to her pacemaker no longer within bluetooth range of phone around 2 something AM.

 

[MistyWaters]

It is reasonable. But the sheriff said a neighbor called. Not that they were alerted by LE.

How long has Nancy Guthrie been missing? See updated timeline of case

The 'Today' host's mother remains missing amid a desperate search.

www.usatoday.com

LE is law enforcement, which includes the Sheriff. But consistently reported is that it was NG’s other daughter, AP who reported her mother missing after NG’s friend called her out of concern because she hadn’t shown up to listen to the church service as planned. I have not seen any indication of a neighbour checking up on NG and noticing she wasn’t home.
JMO

How long has Nancy Guthrie been missing? See updated timeline of case

The 'Today' host's mother remains missing amid a desperate search.

www.usatoday.com

“That morning, Guthrie failed to show up at a friend's house to watch a church service online, as she routinely did, so they called her daughter, Annie, who lives nearby, a source close to the family told NBC News.

At 11:56 a.m., the family arrived to check on her, calling 911 at 12:03 to report her missing. Patrol cars arrived at 12:15 p.m. and the search for Guthrie begins.”