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It is bringing back memories of the McStay family and the belief that they went to Mexico. I understand why they’re checking out that theory but my gut tells me she’s still in the US. The perp, however, may have fled. Unfortunately, they don’t know who they’re actually looking for. I wonder if they can look at records of who crossed the board the day she vanished or a day later. That could take forever. They’d have to track down people living in Mexico or tourists who could live anywhere in the US.
100% on the money BBM. Since day 3 iirc.
 
  • #35,422
Not thinking that this was derived and planned from Mexico. Could have taken her there after the fact to try to conceal the crime, buy time, and/or thwart investigators, but doubtful this has a foreign-derived component, particularly from a cartel or other organized group.

JMO.
 
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Kash Patel is quoted as saying the day of the

very interesting. So you are saying your search reveals there was one google search performed for “Nancy Guthrie” done on December 22 and one on January 9th, both times by someone in Catalina foothills?

According to some other posters here per Google - this is not correct. They are saying that just because it shows one search it could have been hundreds of people searching for those people.

I will leave it at that because I do not understand it. Lol.
 
  • #35,425
The thing about a federal search warrant is that they aren't very easy to obtain. Sworn LEO affidavits and/or unverified accusations/hunches/tips/theories aren't enough to obtain one. If there isn't a compelling reason that also indicates a strong likelihood of a search producing evidence related to a crime, then it isn't likely to be signed off on. Likewise, it has to be specific and not too broad in scope.

JMO.
It must have been the fact that he delivered to her and her neighborhood, had a vehicle, a living situation, and a look which fit the bill for what they were looking for-- information that checked too many boxes to not detain and question.
 
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I keep thinking back to DJT in the early days parsing his words pretty carefully to fit his understanding of events and what he had been told. When asked if the FBI is there assisting with the search, he specifically honed in that word and very methodically redefined it as solution. 'No not a search. They are going there to assist with the solution', or something similar.

I don't know why he did that, but I would love to know.

JMO.
 
  • #35,427
Light pollution is a problem. Light pollution regulations have nothing to do with this case
Without them, cameras would have recorded the vehicle used – if not NG’s cameras, someone else’s. This isn’t a criticism of the light pollution regulations. In the near-dark conditions of NG’s area, home cameras rely on infrared emitted by the cameras’ own LEDs, and it simply doesn’t reach as far as the street.
 
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So far, today feels like one of the quietest days in terms of new info/rumour/speculation from the media
 
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It must have been the fact that he delivered to her and her neighborhood, had a vehicle, a living situation, and a look which fit the bill for what they were looking for-- information that checked too many boxes to not detain and question.

That one wasn't the federal warrant. That one was administered via the state if I recall correctly, and it was reportedly an 'exigent circumstances' kind of thing. Still compelling and not wily nily or a small thing for sure, but also not a federal judge signing off on it either. Which is a big deal.

I don't think a criminal profile or things that could be coincidental would be enough for a federal search warrant either. There would have to be specifics and a fairly narrow scope to obtain it.

JMO.
 
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So far, today feels like one of the quietest days in terms of new info/rumour/speculation from the media

The calm before the storm?
 
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The calm before the storm?
I sure hope so, would hate for it to be the start of the fall off of media attention. I'm sure I'm overthinking that though
 
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DBM
 
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Mexico doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Why risk trying to smuggle someone over the border if you aren't going to be super outward, direct, and demanding about a ransom? Taking her over the border for any other reason would seem totally illogical and carry way too much of a risk getting spotted trying to transport a kidnapping victim or a dead body(if she was unfortunately already killed) that route.
Lots of pigtrails in that area that aren't ports of entry. 2AM, in the trunk of the car for an hour. Not much risk once they got into Mexico. Nobody is looking for her there, sadly, Might be why there are no pings from the signal sniffer or sightings by the helicopters.
 
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What do we make of this? Does BE think/have info that the theory about NG being taken to Mexico is solid? Or that anything in Tucson is a dead end/no new leads to follow there (from a journalistic standpoint)?
I think he's just looking for something to fill in the lull. JMO
 
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What do we make of this? Does BE think/have info that the theory about NG being taken to Mexico is solid? Or that anything in Tucson is a dead end/no new leads to follow there (from a journalistic standpoint)?
Activity at NG’s home has slowed, most have seen the front door video who are going to look, and the glove found roadside didn’t match DNA found inside the home (nor a hit on CODIS). In addition, a recent communication from someone who claims a connection stated NG was taken to Mexico and there were reports (not sure if confirmed) that LE had contacted authorities in Mexico. So, it seems like BE is just going where there may be something to report, even if only to show those watching what things are like across the border.
 
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On February 2, 2026 when the scene was still a sealed off crime scene by LE before they first released it those lines were visible.
Looks like tracks from a suitcase on wheels that you pull behind you....JMO
 
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Just a wild guess, but it seems to me that the majority of cartel-phobics do not live in border states..... jmo

I live in Houston, where most of our crime is derived from the drugs the cartels supply. In fact, my little brother was murdered by a gang that sold drugs for cartels while he was playing video games at a friends house. Don't know why they chose to do a home invasion on that particular house, but they did. So yes, cartel drugs and the violence that they generate is a daily reality for many border state residents.

I still believe this could be a cartel-related kidnapping for ransom, but I also believe this could be a burglary gone wrong. Or it could be any other number of things. The only thing I'm truly sure about is that this crime is BIZARRE and that we should all feel free to post our theories as long as they don't violate TOS.
 
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Same here.

At this point I'm kind of hoping she is in Mexico because I think the chances of her being given the medications she needs are much stronger there.
why didnt the perps just take her medicine with them? Why run around Mexico buying medication? I don't think she's in Mexico anyway. JMO
 
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Studies show-- and you can find them on sites like Dark Sky International-- that residential outdoor lighting does not deter crime. I know you'll probably believe what you choose, and fear motivates us to believe what makes us feel safer -- but this is from my fast Google search and is just one of many studies:

"Studies indicate that keeping lights on at night does not inherently deter crime and, in some cases, may aid offenders by making targets more visible. Research, including a 2015 Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health (JECH) study, found that increased lighting does not significantly prevent crime. Instead of deterring, excessive or poorly placed lighting can increase personal vulnerability."
 
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why didnt the perps just take her medicine with them? Why run around Mexico buying medication? I don't think she's in Mexico anyway. JMO
I mean maybe they just didn't know she needed medication at the time of the abduction
 

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