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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
 
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I ask rhetorically, am I the only one who wonders how many other times over the years AG called her mom to tell her she'd have to use Uber for Friday night's game night with AG and her SIL at their house a short distance away?

Consider the following:

Footnote:
Yes, I know the Sheriff has softened that statement since he made it eight days ago.
 
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How does this search activity compare to Gabby Petito? Different circumstances but not in the sense of a search.
IIRC, that case involved two searches - the first for GP and then the second exhaustingly long search for BL. I didn't really delve into it until the search was for him.

ETA: JMO/MOO and based on my recollection
 
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
Indeed, so many mixed messages. Where's NANCY??? Time is of the essence, no?
 
  • #37,025
Alternate theory on APS: What if NG had a scheduled appointment with the investigator for Sunday morning before church. Would an investigator show up at her house unannounced or try to contact her by phone or email first? Suppose she called previously because she suspected one of her friends or neighbors was being abused, so they scheduled to come to her house to discuss her concerns instead of her having to drive or take an Uber. The investigator went to her house on Sunday morning for their appointment, but she didn't answer the door, so the investigator left their card at the door. The investigator wouldn't call the police just because NG didn't answer the door at their scheduled time, they would call her later to reschedule. If NG did report suspected abuse, maybe the kidnappers were aware of her suspicions and kidnapped her to prevent her from talking. The sheriff wouldn't tell the media that the card was about an ongoing investigation into abuse. All MOO, just a theory.
 
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How does this search activity compare to Gabby Petito? Different circumstances but not in the sense of a search.

Verified evidence. IIRC LE had a known POI, her 🤬🤬🤬 boyfriend BL. LE had already spoken to both of them just prior to her family contacting LE that something was wrong. Witnesses saw her in specific locations. Im assuming they had digital evidence. Then the jackpot was that couple who happened to be recording and captured their van on the side of the road. They had solid areas to put boots on the ground. IMO
 
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21 Feb 2026
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Feb 21, 2026
Investigators were back in the neighborhood 21 days after Nancy Guthrie was allegedly abducted.
 
  • #37,029
Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.
 
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Alternate theory on APS: What if NG had a scheduled appointment with the investigator for Sunday morning before church. Would an investigator show up at her house unannounced or try to contact her by phone or email first? Suppose she called previously because she suspected one of her friends or neighbors was being abused, so they scheduled to come to her house to discuss her concerns instead of her having to drive or take an Uber. The investigator went to her house on Sunday morning for their appointment, but she didn't answer the door, so the investigator left their card at the door. The investigator wouldn't call the police just because NG didn't answer the door at their scheduled time, they would call her later to reschedule. If NG did report suspected abuse, maybe the kidnappers were aware of her suspicions and kidnapped her to prevent her from talking. The sheriff wouldn't tell the media that the card was about an ongoing investigation into abuse. All MOO, just a theory.
I'm not one of the ones who found the APS card to be of significance, however, I haven't heard this theory before and it's definitely something to look into if it hasn't been already (by officials). Good thinking outside the box!
 
  • #37,031
I keep thinking about the gas station camera that captured Kohberger's car in Moscow, ID. Those types of business security cameras must exist in Tucson too? I'm sure there are several directions they might have driven, but as you say, how many cars would be on the roads between 2 and 3 am? I wish there would be that sort of evidence at least suggesting a direction for LE to investigate. MOO
Yes true and I forgot about the Circle K down the road from NGs! I don't know whether the video they saw there told them anything or not. We were talking several days ago in here about the two grey vehicles driven by people they investigated (one was the RR and the other was driven by the first person they detained whose initials escape me atm). I haven't heard anything more about grey vehicles tho.
 
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!

It could be strategy to make the perp(s) relax and start making some mistakes.
 
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
Some ppl are legends in their own mind
 
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Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.
Thank you so much for posting this.
 
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This is disgraceful!

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother
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I understand the frustration, we all feel it, but honestly we don’t really know what the Guthrie family is or is not doing behind the scenes.

IMO they do not owe us anything, and I don’t even want to think about the helplessness and agony they are enduring.

The family may be maneuvering how they can, but in privacy. Or they may not know one iota of info and are desperate.

In any event, IMO it’s not fair of us to criticize them for what they may or may not be doing, behind the curtain, so to speak.
 
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Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.

A video is not showing up for me. Do you have a direct link that you could share? Please and Thank you.
 
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I ask rhetorically, am I the only one who wonders how many other times over the years AG called her mom to tell her she'd have to use Uber for Friday night's game night with AG and her SIL at their house a short distance away?
I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

  • They have been victims of a crime.
  • Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
  • Their mother might be alive and suffering.
  • Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
  • Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.
These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.
 
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
I don't think we know the Guthrie family isn't extremely involved. In fact JMO they are absolutely as involved as a family can get in a kidnapping.

We can't expect to know everything and we can't expect to know why LE is holding back certain things. IMO holding back info is normal investigatory process.

It's frustrating though I agree. We want to solve and it's very hard to do without all the known facts. We just have to be patient.
 
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I ask rhetorically, am I the only one who wonders how many other times over the years AG called her mom to tell her she'd have to use Uber for Friday night's game night with AG and her SIL at their house a short distance away?

Consider the following:

Footnote:
Yes, I know the Sheriff has softened that statement since he made it eight days ago.
Is there a source that AG called her mom to tell her to use an Uber? I’ve been away so missed that.

Also, sheriff didn’t “soften” that statement from 8 days ago, he said NG’s kids and spouses were clear four days ago:


Has that changed?
 

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