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21 Feb 2026
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Feb 21, 2026
Investigators were back in the neighborhood 21 days after Nancy Guthrie was allegedly abducted.
 
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Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.
 
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Alternate theory on APS: What if NG had a scheduled appointment with the investigator for Sunday morning before church. Would an investigator show up at her house unannounced or try to contact her by phone or email first? Suppose she called previously because she suspected one of her friends or neighbors was being abused, so they scheduled to come to her house to discuss her concerns instead of her having to drive or take an Uber. The investigator went to her house on Sunday morning for their appointment, but she didn't answer the door, so the investigator left their card at the door. The investigator wouldn't call the police just because NG didn't answer the door at their scheduled time, they would call her later to reschedule. If NG did report suspected abuse, maybe the kidnappers were aware of her suspicions and kidnapped her to prevent her from talking. The sheriff wouldn't tell the media that the card was about an ongoing investigation into abuse. All MOO, just a theory.
I'm not one of the ones who found the APS card to be of significance, however, I haven't heard this theory before and it's definitely something to look into if it hasn't been already (by officials). Good thinking outside the box!
 
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I keep thinking about the gas station camera that captured Kohberger's car in Moscow, ID. Those types of business security cameras must exist in Tucson too? I'm sure there are several directions they might have driven, but as you say, how many cars would be on the roads between 2 and 3 am? I wish there would be that sort of evidence at least suggesting a direction for LE to investigate. MOO
Yes true and I forgot about the Circle K down the road from NGs! I don't know whether the video they saw there told them anything or not. We were talking several days ago in here about the two grey vehicles driven by people they investigated (one was the RR and the other was driven by the first person they detained whose initials escape me atm). I haven't heard anything more about grey vehicles tho.
 
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!

It could be strategy to make the perp(s) relax and start making some mistakes.
 
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
Some ppl are legends in their own mind
 
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Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.
Thank you so much for posting this.
 
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This is disgraceful!

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother
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I understand the frustration, we all feel it, but honestly we don’t really know what the Guthrie family is or is not doing behind the scenes.

IMO they do not owe us anything, and I don’t even want to think about the helplessness and agony they are enduring.

The family may be maneuvering how they can, but in privacy. Or they may not know one iota of info and are desperate.

In any event, IMO it’s not fair of us to criticize them for what they may or may not be doing, behind the curtain, so to speak.
 
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Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.

A video is not showing up for me. Do you have a direct link that you could share? Please and Thank you.
 
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I ask rhetorically, am I the only one who wonders how many other times over the years AG called her mom to tell her she'd have to use Uber for Friday night's game night with AG and her SIL at their house a short distance away?
I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

  • They have been victims of a crime.
  • Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
  • Their mother might be alive and suffering.
  • Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
  • Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.
These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.
 
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
I don't think we know the Guthrie family isn't extremely involved. In fact JMO they are absolutely as involved as a family can get in a kidnapping.

We can't expect to know everything and we can't expect to know why LE is holding back certain things. IMO holding back info is normal investigatory process.

It's frustrating though I agree. We want to solve and it's very hard to do without all the known facts. We just have to be patient.
 
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I ask rhetorically, am I the only one who wonders how many other times over the years AG called her mom to tell her she'd have to use Uber for Friday night's game night with AG and her SIL at their house a short distance away?

Consider the following:

Footnote:
Yes, I know the Sheriff has softened that statement since he made it eight days ago.
Is there a source that AG called her mom to tell her to use an Uber? I’ve been away so missed that.

Also, sheriff didn’t “soften” that statement from 8 days ago, he said NG’s kids and spouses were clear four days ago:


Has that changed?
 
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I still think there may be something to the gem-show angle. Someone posted footage here of two people suspected of taking a box from the show a few days after NG’s disappearance. The footwear, clothing and gait are all interesting, let’s say. But the post was deleted.
I hadn't read about this gem show theory. Very interesting!

JMO
 
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I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

  • They have been victims of a crime.
  • Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
  • Their mother might be alive and suffering.
  • Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
  • Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.
These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.
So well put thank you so much for posting.
 
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I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

  • They have been victims of a crime.
  • Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
  • Their mother might be alive and suffering.
  • Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
  • Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.
These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.

Magnificent!!! Exactly!!!

I would lavish this post in gold if I knew how, but at least I can give it a gold star.

IMO of course.
 
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Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.
I can't see a video on the link (maybe because I'm in Canada?) but THANK GOODNESS! I recall him saying this that first week and had looked everywhere, but it may have been a live hit and just no clip anywhere because it really so very insignificant. Other than she was actually able to walk up to the house, like the amazon delivery guy and media, IMO
 
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I see the CSI effect is in full force in here tonight 🤣
 
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I understand that LE want the search done by the pros, but IF it was my family and we are at the 3 week mark - then I'd be thankful any organized volunteer group wanted to donate their time to find my loved one and I just wonder how much searching the Sheriff's office has done. IF I remember correctly they called off searching early on and I haven't seen any searches going on (of course, that does NOT mean searches are not taking place.) IF they were taking place you'd think the Sheriff's office would come out and say we are searching high and low and everywhere in-between for Nancy.

**No, I don't think random people should be out searching for Nancy, but if it is a real organized volunteer group I'd certainly work quickly with them to get the red tape completed so they can search.

I've been thinking it was strange that we aren't seeing searches this entire time. So odd.

Set aside LE, set aside the Sheriff, set aside the FBI - this is about Nancy.....Are they doing all they can to find her? Where is Nancy? (These are not real questions. These are questions I ponder while we wait for Nancy to be found!)

JMO >
I agree, do a lot more ground searches. I responded to another post just about a minute ago, look at trailheads, abandoned barns, dump sites,
Wouldn't be the first time that happened in a case, unfortunately.
I’m remembering Richard Allen, Delphi case, he talked to a Park Ranger seeking tips, as all who walked the trails that day were asked to give a statement. It can be noted, Allen did not want to speak to an official LE, sheriff. Instead, he gave his statement at a pop up info booth, seeking tips re the crime, outside of a grocery store, 2 days after the crime. He checked off his “due diligence”, said he walked the trails, didn’t see anything.

Lived and worked within 1-2 miles away. The tip was hand written on legal pad, put into a paper file, “ lostfor 5 years! When Delphi finally had fresh eyes on the case, someone found this tip! Richard Allen was the “bridge guy”all along, looked just like him, 5 years to unearth this very important tip! Convicted! He was the perp all along. Allen had continued to work for 5 years, 2 miles away at a CVS store as an assistant pharmacy tech. Everyone in town knew him. Ugh! 😩

The lesson, don’t give tips or statements to Park Rangers, wildlife staff, etc, although they are considered LE, they are not in the business of solving crimes most of the time. All tips should go to crime solving LE, sheriff.

Most of you know this whole story. Just an important lesson about, every tip is important!
It only takes one “good” tip to solve a case.

JMO
 
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
SG needs to hire a private investigator.
 
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