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I don't think he showed 'ownership behaviour'. He wasn't even prepared for the camera doorbell as he had to go and get the plants to cover it or do whatever he thought the plants would be helpful for.
 
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I thought it was strange that the attorney said his client pulled over to confront le in an unmarked car. Unless that's normal and more related to current politics, I think it's suspicious. I wish the attorney had clarified. It struck me as paranoid.
 
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Finding the perp will lead to finding Nancy.
Only if the perp is willing to tell LE where NG is located. If she has expired it would be difficult to get a manslaughter/murder conviction if there is no body, thus the perp has no incentive to identify her location.
Unfortunately if she has passed she could be buried anywhere.
My opinion only
 
  • #37,604
One thing that troubles me is yes, Nancy had help, but oftentimes landscapers and tradesmen hire day laborers who aren't on the books. LE may not have the complete picture of everyone who worked at the home.

Exactly. Which goes back to the "Elizabeth Smart" kidnapping. Her parents hired a random street person, Brian David Mitchell, who saw Elizabeth, and came back to kidnap her. Absolutely, no information about who he was, or where he came from. No way for LEO to even start to tie him to the case.
 
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The Guthrie family must visit the park, as Nancy's son is wearing a cap from there on his latest video, trying to find his mum


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This the timeline of the doorbell footage I keep seeing being published (used ai to source):

1:47 am
  • Doorbell camera suddenly goes offline
  • Investigators believe the intruder disabled it deliberately
~1:50 am – 1:53 am
  • Camera briefly reconnects
  • Masked intruder appears on video
So how was the camera initially disconnected at 1:47am before the recording at 1:50-1:53am.

This is very interesting if true.
 
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This the timeline of the doorbell footage I keep seeing being published (used ai to source):

1:47 am
  • Doorbell camera suddenly goes offline
  • Investigators believe the intruder disabled it deliberately
~1:50 am – 1:53 am
  • Camera briefly reconnects
  • Masked intruder appears on video
So how was the camera initially disconnected at 1:47am before the recording at 1:50-1:53am.

This is very interesting if true.


It's a different camera. Another camera, likely inside, sensed movement... that's all.
 
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This the timeline of the doorbell footage I keep seeing being published (used ai to source):

1:47 am
  • Doorbell camera suddenly goes offline
  • Investigators believe the intruder disabled it deliberately
~1:50 am – 1:53 am
  • Camera briefly reconnects
  • Masked intruder appears on video
So how was the camera initially disconnected at 1:47am before the recording at 1:50-1:53am.

This is very interesting if true.
I haven't heard that. Is the video time stamped? I can't recall if it is or what time.

Edit: I see now what you meant and I did know that. Two cameras
 
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Interesting, a maintenance worker at Nancy's place has a similar tattoo on the same right side of the neck?




View attachment 647750
Is there a neck tattoo visible on porch guy? I've heard others reference it but haven't seen it. Interesting

Similar facial hair, size, eyes can't tell
 
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Nancy Guthrie Update: Son-In-Law Faces Scrutiny Over $1M Home And Inheritance Trail​


Investigators released Nest and Ring camera footage showing a masked intruder entering Nancy's home.

Experts analysing the footage noted a level of confidence and familiarity in the way the individual moved through the property, described as 'ownership behaviour'.

The suspect navigated the porch with precision, avoided cameras, and even tapped the lens as if testing its response.

Tommaso signed a durable power of attorney granting Annie control over his financial and property affairs in May 2025.

Legal experts say this is routine in real estate transactions, but the timing, eight months before Nancy's disappearance, coincides with public searches of Nancy's home and other family financial data.

Now, investigators continue to emphasise that the family has been formally cleared, yet clearance does not equate to exoneration.




The wording/phraseology used in that article is VERY similar to Nancy Guthrie "Documentary" Are the Missing Pieces AG and TC by Crimes Unresolved on YT. Said doco is littered with errors, starting with muddling 2 separate Neighbor Ring videos of intruders...man walking backwards. Also states septic tank at TC+AG's house was searched, describing a search that occurred on NG's property. I can't recall others offhand, but it wasn't a reputable source and, imo, is sensationalism. It points finger at AG & TC along with band member, in a factual as opposed to speculative way, complete with iffy AI narration.
 
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This the timeline of the doorbell footage I keep seeing being published (used ai to source):

1:47 am
  • Doorbell camera suddenly goes offline
  • Investigators believe the intruder disabled it deliberately
~1:50 am – 1:53 am
  • Camera briefly reconnects
  • Masked intruder appears on video
So how was the camera initially disconnected at 1:47am before the recording at 1:50-1:53am.

This is very interesting if true.

If this was the timeline that you keep seeing being published, it seems like you wouldn’t have needed to use AI to source it. That’s not meant as a slight to you personally, only as a slight on AI, which tends to get things wrong a lot of the time, through both conflating and “hallucinating” details, along with it not being very good at distinguishing established facts from opinions, theories and speculation.

JMO
 
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The wording/phraseology used in that article is VERY similar to Nancy Guthrie "Documentary" Are the Missing Pieces AG and TC by Crimes Unresolved on YT. Said doco is littered with errors, starting with muddling 2 separate Neighbor Ring videos of intruders...man walking backwards. Also states septic tank at TC+AG's house was searched, describing a search that occurred on NG's property. I can't recall others offhand, but it wasn't a reputable source and, imo, is sensationalism. It points finger at AG & TC along with band member, in a factual as opposed to speculative way, complete with iffy AI narration.
Not to pile on, but the ibtimes.com website is just an aggregator, and I don’t find it credible. MOO. The article misspelled Tomasso’s name as “Tommaso”. It’s another small thing, but it demonstrates a complete lack of fact-checking or concern for accuracy.
 
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It really is a wake up call that even with actual security video, and with widespread publicity of the video, and even with a reward, a criminal cannot necessarily be identified.
It’s maddening. I live in the same county that Missy Bevers was murdered in. If you haven’t head of this case - please - take a look at the video of the perp in her murder and tell me why we are sitting here nearly 10 years later with an unsolved murder? (Now - I will say I think some “good ole boy” politics play into Missy’s murder).
But for Pete’s sakes - there’s how many minutes of video of the perp and still no clue??
I hope and pray that someone comes forward and ID’s Lantana man. I hope I’m not posting about this 10 years from now saying can you believe they never ID’ed this person. May this be the week that Nancy is found. Please.
 
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It’s maddening. I live in the same county that Missy Bevers was murdered in. If you haven’t head of this case - please - take a look at the video of the perp in her murder and tell me why we are sitting here nearly 10 years later with an unsolved murder? (Now - I will say I think some “good ole boy” politics play into Missy’s murder).
But for Pete’s sakes - there’s how many minutes of video of the perp and still no clue??
I hope and pray that someone comes forward and ID’s Lantana man. I hope I’m not posting about this 10 years from now saying can you believe they never ID’ed this person. May this be the week that Nancy is found. Please.

It is possible LE has a clue, but not enough clues. If that makes sense.

The optimistic side of my brain is telling me they have some evidence--but they just need more evidence.

They may have already talked to the actual perp.
LE has had a vehicle they towed over 10 days ago. That is telling. JMO.
Do they still have it?

I think this case will be solved.
 
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I noticed on GMA this morning that the ABC reporter that has been in Tucson has now left and is back in NY. I wonder how many other reporters will be leaving now.
 
  • #37,620
What did you find strange?
Mostly that he pulled himself over and started to confront police which probably escalated the drama. I thought it was paranoid or guilty seeming. I'm not saying he's guilty just think that was weird.
 

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