Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[buffalogal]

Just observed and read this CBS article stating that they arrested someone earlier today that perhaps murdered 3 women, one of them in their 80’s.
No idea if this is relevant to the NG case. Certainly local Tucson Law Enforcement is aware of these crimes.
The Utah investigators traced the suspect through Arizona, Colorado and Utah.

Suspect in custody after 3 women found dead in Utah, 2 on hiking trail, authorities say

A suspect is in custody after authorities in Utah found two women's bodies on a hiking trail and a third woman dead in a home nearby.

www.cbsnews.com

This is tragic, but I don't think it's remotely related. This sounds like DV; a Mother, Daughter and Grandmother, or similar family dynamics, all murdered by another (male) family member.

 

[Hans Olo]

This is the precise reason I flagged it as being MY ASSUMPTION ONLY. I see you're new to Websleuths, but you are allowed to post theories if you mark them JMO, IMO, etc - clearly noting that IT IS NOT A PROVEN FACT. Surely you've noticed all of the theories being discussed?

And as was stated upthread by @The Missing Canoe, we know of at least one convicted perp who was posting here: How amateur web sleuths helped solve the case of missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare

I fully understand that.

You stated your theory with such confidence, I thought perhaps there was more to it.

If it’s just your hunch… fair enough

 

[Bluewing3102]

This is tragic, but I don't think it's remotely related. This sounds like DV; a Mother, Daughter and Grandmother, or similar family dynamics, all murdered by another (male) family member.

It was an elderly woman killed in her home and two hikers killed out on a trail

They caught the guy it's totally unrelated. So sad. I didn't realize how often elderly woman are victims of violent crime.

 

[wibbleflea]

Naturally I hope NG will ultimately be found, one way or the other, and the culprit(s) will be caught and imprisoned, but so far it seems the closure may never come.

I think he'll be identified, even if it's a slower process than most of us thought it would be at the beginning. So many tips to work through, and other evidence, too. Possibly DNA, possibly more video footage from the house, depending on the recovery process for overwritten data. A ton of other camera footage to look through. They have evidence from inside the house, too, which may tell them things that we don't know of. I'm not expecting an informant to make a call, because I suspect the perp worked alone and told no one (just an opinion), but I think the offender will be found.

 

[Napoli]

What strategy would be better to manage the perp?

There is no strategy. Do the forensic IGG stuff. That's not strategy, that's science. We cant get 2 talking "expert heads" to come up with a profile that they both agree with. . Everyone is scrambling and opining and yes, even bungling. The perp is managing the media and LE. JMO

 

[submarine7]

It really is utter nonsense isn't it? Lifelong non-criminals - even some prior FBI agents - insisting they are the authority on what is or is not criminal chic, and presenting theories to the world derived whole cloth from their purely aesthetic biases and/or fantasies of what an 'actual criminal' looks like or would wear.

He could've shown up on the porch donning a Hamburglar costume and still no one could deny that this crime was executed with a high degree of precision and 'better than most' sophistication.

I've always been concerned that the assumptions drawn from all of these ex-law enforcement types were the same instinctive inferences drawn by current law enforcement. If so, the belief that this criminal or these criminals isn't/aren't sophisticated is probably why no one has been caught yet.

JMO.

Yes, I agree. Do a Google image search for kidnapper and the perps are wearing basically the same outfit. His clothing does not provide his criminal history or sophistication.

 

[Former Reporter]

I fully understand that.

You stated your theory with such confidence, I thought perhaps there was more to it.

If it’s just your hunch… fair enough

Again, I have mentioned in ALL of my posts on this assumption, including the original one you questioned, that it was simply a theory based on what we know of the perp. If you look at the original post, it has the notation JMO. That means "just my opinion."

 

[wibbleflea]

It really is utter nonsense isn't it? Lifelong non-criminals - even some prior FBI agents - insisting they are the authority on what is or is not criminal chic, and presenting theories to the world derived whole cloth from their purely aesthetic biases and/or fantasies of what an 'actual criminal' looks like or would wear.

He could've shown up on the porch donning a Hamburglar costume and still no one could deny that this crime was executed with a high degree of precision and 'better than most' sophistication.

I've always been concerned that the assumptions drawn from all of these ex-law enforcement types were the same instinctive inferences drawn by current law enforcement. If so, the belief that this criminal or these criminals isn't/aren't sophisticated is probably why no one has been caught yet.

JMO.

Some of the assertions from retired FBI agents are disappointing. I've noticed that some are cautious, while others are anything but. Oh well.

 

[gumshoe61]

Has anyone seen the picture of person arrested in murders of 3 utah women?

 

[No it's not]

Has anyone seen the picture of person arrested in murders of 3 utah women?

GS, good seeing you here!

Cheers,
Nin

 

[girlhasnoname]

It really is utter nonsense isn't it? Lifelong non-criminals - even some prior FBI agents - insisting they are the authority on what is or is not criminal chic, and presenting theories to the world derived whole cloth from their purely aesthetic biases and/or fantasies of what an 'actual criminal' looks like or would wear.

He could've shown up on the porch donning a Hamburglar costume and still no one could deny that this crime was executed with a high degree of precision and 'better than most' sophistication.

I've always been concerned that the assumptions drawn from all of these ex-law enforcement types were the same instinctive inferences drawn by current law enforcement. If so, the belief that this criminal or these criminals isn't/aren't sophisticated is probably why no one has been caught yet.

JMO.

OMGEEEEE....you had me at Hamburglar.
I needed a little levity through all the sads in this case. Thanks, Slim

JMO

 

[scandiamerican]

Way back on Feb 18, a member posted the FBI-provided photos with "enhanced contrast" and was asking about an item the masked figure appeared to be carrying in his right hand. To me, that item almost looked like a closed umbrella with a handle that stuck out the side of the shaft at the end (with the person's gloved hand grasping it). There are what look like dark knobs around the close perimeter of the "umbrella" that seemed to me like they'd correspond to "knobs" at the end of an umbrella's spokes.

However, I also noticed that it appeared to me that the masked figure was carrying something in his left gloved hand. I thought it looked like some kind of formed metal extended shape (almost like an extended hood that might be installed over floodlights or over something else - and I commented so at the time). However, upon further examination it almost looks like it could be some piece of equipment or a tool and in context, I wonder if it is some kind of break-in tool (whether for doors or a safe).

I have attached a photo of my drawing atop the "enhanced contrast" photo and have also included notes as to what I think I am seeing. I've also included a cropped section to show you the same without my drawing atop it.

Following are the original quoted posts from the member (@scandiamerican ) who provided the "enhanced contrast" photos:




Curious whether others are seeing this too.

With this degree of camera noise from low light, it’s hard to tell what’s there and what’s just a digital artifact in the image. But you may be onto something!

 

[LRinCA]

Wouldn't that be something if NG were part of a larger group of abductions.

Very odd, and don't know what to make of it but as you say LE must be aware of the situation.

I saw the story before I went to sleep last night. At that time they had cancelled school for Thursday and Friday and the person hadn't been caught. I just looked for the article I saw last night and it's been updated to show the alleged killer.

Investigation continues after Wayne County triple murder suspect arrested - KSLNewsRadio

The Wayne County Sheriff's Office advised all residents "take extra precautions, keep lights on, keep doors locked, and remain home or with others" on Wednesday evening.

kslnewsradio.com

 

[Quiet Time]

the facial hair under the mask looked painted on, possibly tatooed not like real facial hair at all. mOO

Funny you should say that...just today while looking at masked man again , it looked to me like his eyebrows had been drawn on. Very thinly, I might add.

**sorry if that's already been mentioned

jmo

 

[LRinCA]

Has anyone seen the picture of person arrested in murders of 3 utah women?

There's a photo here:

Investigation continues after Wayne County triple murder suspect arrested - KSLNewsRadio

The Wayne County Sheriff's Office advised all residents "take extra precautions, keep lights on, keep doors locked, and remain home or with others" on Wednesday evening.

kslnewsradio.com

This photo is the same but might be slightly clearer/larger:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/05/us/utah-women-deaths-wayne-county

 

[submarine7]

There's a photo here:

Investigation continues after Wayne County triple murder suspect arrested - KSLNewsRadio

The Wayne County Sheriff's Office advised all residents "take extra precautions, keep lights on, keep doors locked, and remain home or with others" on Wednesday evening.

kslnewsradio.com

This is frightening. No connection between the victims.

 

[LRinCA]

This is frightening. No connection between the victims.

I find it interesting that this guy really did get around. Apparently the same guy was in Alaska this past summer. He's from Iowa. I mean, it's a long shot, but surely they'll question him about his whereabouts on January 31, February 1 2026.

Department of Public Safety

The Department of Public Safety (DPS) is the state agency charged with providing functions relative to the protection of life, property, and wildlife resources. Department members enforce criminal laws, traffic laws and regulations, wildlife laws and regulations, fire laws and regulations, and...

dailydispatch.dps.alaska.gov

 

[Cassie P]

He doesnt have to have had other criminal activity to be sophisticated. He chose garments that concealed him well and avoided the shedding of DNA. He is a person who pays meticulous attention to detail. He plans. He isnt some street who takes chances getting his illegal drugs, for example. His raid on the Guthrie home was precise and targeted and it was mission accomplished. He's a quiet over achiever or even an academic, perhaps. Deep thinker for sure. He is not a high school drop out with a comorbidity like drug abuse. JMO

Even a bright, talented, highly educated non criminal is going to make mistakes. Like the vascular surgeon who killed the Tepe's.

I agree, we can no longer say that in the Guthrie case the perp is a kid, a druggie, an impulse crime, a street person, inexperienced, etc. You don't evade the FBI and 400 agents for this long if that were the case?

Most first time criminals, no matter how smart, make mistakes. So I am going to guess this is the not the first crime the guy has committed. At the least he had to do some dry runs, practice sessions.

Yes a methodical person. Meticulous about detail. Planned it carefully ahead of time. Often first time criminals plan the crime itself but not the exit plan. This guy planned it all looks like.

<modsnip>

The guy in this case is a careful thinker, but wider in scope that most deep thinkers. There are a lot of moving parts to this crime, many different pieces and he appears to have done well with all of them. Perhaps there is more than one person involved.

 

[Diddian]

There's a photo here:

Investigation continues after Wayne County triple murder suspect arrested - KSLNewsRadio

The Wayne County Sheriff's Office advised all residents "take extra precautions, keep lights on, keep doors locked, and remain home or with others" on Wednesday evening.

kslnewsradio.com

This photo is the same but might be slightly clearer/larger:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/05/us/utah-women-deaths-wayne-county

Looks like that same young man was arrested in Alaska in July 2025:

Department of Public Safety

The Department of Public Safety (DPS) is the state agency charged with providing functions relative to the protection of life, property, and wildlife resources. Department members enforce criminal laws, traffic laws and regulations, wildlife laws and regulations, fire laws and regulations, and...

dailydispatch.dps.alaska.gov

ETA: Sorry @LRinCA, I see you already posted this!

 

[LRinCA]

Looks like that same young man was arrested in Alaska in July 2025:

Department of Public Safety

The Department of Public Safety (DPS) is the state agency charged with providing functions relative to the protection of life, property, and wildlife resources. Department members enforce criminal laws, traffic laws and regulations, wildlife laws and regulations, fire laws and regulations, and...

dailydispatch.dps.alaska.gov

ETA: Sorry @LRinCA, I see you already posted this!

I can't help but wonder if there were any unsolved murders in that part of Alaska back in July. And if he's a so-called drifter, his drifting radius seems pretty wide. I definitely think they should be asking him where he was about a month ago.

I can't find out how he killed his victims, but I haven't delved that deeply.