Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[LRinCA]

This is frightening. No connection between the victims.

I find it interesting that this guy really did get around. Apparently the same guy was in Alaska this past summer. He's from Iowa. I mean, it's a long shot, but surely they'll question him about his whereabouts on January 31, February 1 2026.

Department of Public Safety

The Department of Public Safety (DPS) is the state agency charged with providing functions relative to the protection of life, property, and wildlife resources. Department members enforce criminal laws, traffic laws and regulations, wildlife laws and regulations, fire laws and regulations, and...

dailydispatch.dps.alaska.gov

 

[Cassie P]

He doesnt have to have had other criminal activity to be sophisticated. He chose garments that concealed him well and avoided the shedding of DNA. He is a person who pays meticulous attention to detail. He plans. He isnt some street who takes chances getting his illegal drugs, for example. His raid on the Guthrie home was precise and targeted and it was mission accomplished. He's a quiet over achiever or even an academic, perhaps. Deep thinker for sure. He is not a high school drop out with a comorbidity like drug abuse. JMO

Even a bright, talented, highly educated non criminal is going to make mistakes. Like the vascular surgeon who killed the Tepe's.

I agree, we can no longer say that in the Guthrie case the perp is a kid, a druggie, an impulse crime, a street person, inexperienced, etc. You don't evade the FBI and 400 agents for this long if that were the case?

Most first time criminals, no matter how smart, make mistakes. So I am going to guess this is the not the first crime the guy has committed. At the least he had to do some dry runs, practice sessions.

Yes a methodical person. Meticulous about detail. Planned it carefully ahead of time. Often first time criminals plan the crime itself but not the exit plan. This guy planned it all looks like.

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The guy in this case is a careful thinker, but wider in scope that most deep thinkers. There are a lot of moving parts to this crime, many different pieces and he appears to have done well with all of them. Perhaps there is more than one person involved.

 

[Diddian]

There's a photo here:

Investigation continues after Wayne County triple murder suspect arrested - KSLNewsRadio

The Wayne County Sheriff's Office advised all residents "take extra precautions, keep lights on, keep doors locked, and remain home or with others" on Wednesday evening.

kslnewsradio.com

This photo is the same but might be slightly clearer/larger:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/05/us/utah-women-deaths-wayne-county

Looks like that same young man was arrested in Alaska in July 2025:

Department of Public Safety

The Department of Public Safety (DPS) is the state agency charged with providing functions relative to the protection of life, property, and wildlife resources. Department members enforce criminal laws, traffic laws and regulations, wildlife laws and regulations, fire laws and regulations, and...

dailydispatch.dps.alaska.gov

ETA: Sorry @LRinCA, I see you already posted this!

 

[LRinCA]

Looks like that same young man was arrested in Alaska in July 2025:

Department of Public Safety

The Department of Public Safety (DPS) is the state agency charged with providing functions relative to the protection of life, property, and wildlife resources. Department members enforce criminal laws, traffic laws and regulations, wildlife laws and regulations, fire laws and regulations, and...

dailydispatch.dps.alaska.gov

ETA: Sorry @LRinCA, I see you already posted this!

I can't help but wonder if there were any unsolved murders in that part of Alaska back in July. And if he's a so-called drifter, his drifting radius seems pretty wide. I definitely think they should be asking him where he was about a month ago.

I can't find out how he killed his victims, but I haven't delved that deeply.

 

[Cassie P]

It really is utter nonsense isn't it? Lifelong non-criminals - even some prior FBI agents - insisting they are the authority on what is or is not criminal chic, and presenting theories to the world derived whole cloth from their purely aesthetic biases and/or fantasies of what an 'actual criminal' looks like or would wear.

He could've shown up on the porch donning a Hamburglar costume and still no one could deny that this crime was executed with a high degree of precision and 'better than most' sophistication.

I've always been concerned that the assumptions drawn from all of these ex-law enforcement types were the same instinctive inferences drawn by current law enforcement. If so, the belief that this criminal or these criminals isn't/aren't sophisticated is probably why no one has been caught yet.

JMO.

This is the point of looking at lantana man's presentation. To get a better understanding of who he is and how his mind works.

The clothing tells us he planned this crime meticulously and at a high level. He chose everything he wore for a reason.

I think dismissing the evidence in the video out of hand would be FBI malpractice.

 

[scandiamerican]

It is an odd situation, Ivan Miller (I guess I should say allegedly) murdering three women in Utah apparently in order to steal their cars? It’s easy for me to want to feel like every not-ancient guy with two eyes could be Lantana Man. Sigh.

3 Utah women were killed at random for their vehicles, police say

An Iowa man has been arrested in Colorado following an intense manhunt and accused of killing three women at random in southern Utah.

www.ksl.com

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

New member here with a motive theory. Nancy had flood lights in her yard and connected to her house - some were destroyed, possibly the one by her door was destroyed by the perp. Destroyed flood light was referenced in the ransom message (the ransom message was likely a ruse to confuse the investigation but could have been sent by the perp) Where Nancy lived there is an ordinance that controls lighting to ensure the area is dark for nighttime viewing of stars/landscape, etc. There are strict rules for compliance but if someone is not compliant, law enforcement will not get involved - it becomes a civil matter which makes disputes very hard to resolve. Could it be that the lighting around her home was disturbing someone in the area? Disputes over such issues can blow up. If you google flood lighting and murders - you'll see that such disputes have resulted in murder.

Perhaps Nancy, a very nice/lovely person, had been confronted by someone over her flood lighting and she stood her ground. I do not know if her lighting was such that it would cause issues, maybe this should be looked into?

I doubt your theory only because of what, I believe, SG has said of her mother. About how much she loved the land and the place of Tucson-- and how many years she's been there. People who feel that way like the dark sky ordinances and defend them. They have motion sensor lights if they have outdoor lighting and/or are very sensitive to neighbors and placement etc. Of course, this is a generalization but in my experience, imo, it has been true. Outsiders are the ones who come in and want things to be different. Brighter, greener, louder, more trees. (Welcome to WS.)

 

[Lebowski]

There's a photo here:

Investigation continues after Wayne County triple murder suspect arrested - KSLNewsRadio

The Wayne County Sheriff's Office advised all residents "take extra precautions, keep lights on, keep doors locked, and remain home or with others" on Wednesday evening.

kslnewsradio.com

This photo is the same but might be slightly clearer/larger:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/05/us/utah-women-deaths-wayne-county

if people are comparing this to lantana man...

hard to be sure, but i think this suspect has some kind of orbital asymmetry -- left eye slightly higher or differently shaped. IMO, we don't see that in the clearest stills of lantana man.

also, lantana man planned a lot and is cautious in the video. this perp in the other case... whatever his motives, he does not seem cautious and his actions do not seem planned, at least not in detail.

 

[ms-t]

Just a thought....has anyone looked into the fact that Nancy's house was up for sale and then unlisted? That means that others would have had the keys to the home possibly? Presumably real estate agents have been encouraged to check their unoccupied properties?

Great point! I wonder how far she got in the potential house sale process? Did potential buyers actually go through the house? Were there open house events? Just thinking here ...

 

[SMK777]

I saw the story before I went to sleep last night. At that time they had cancelled school for Thursday and Friday and the person hadn't been caught. I just looked for the article I saw last night and it's been updated to show the alleged killer.

Investigation continues after Wayne County triple murder suspect arrested - KSLNewsRadio

The Wayne County Sheriff's Office advised all residents "take extra precautions, keep lights on, keep doors locked, and remain home or with others" on Wednesday evening.

kslnewsradio.com

What a strange story! And the killer only 22, and if you passed him on the street would assume is an ok guy. I wonder if they are looking for a connection?

 

[Bluewing3102]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029615801771466849

 

[Diddian]

I can't help but wonder if there were any unsolved murders in that part of Alaska back in July. And if he's a so-called drifter, his drifting radius seems pretty wide. I definitely think they should be asking him where he was about a month ago.

I can't find out how he killed his victims, but I haven't delved that deeply.

At the very least, it appears this young man was killing his three female victims to take their vehicles.

NG's vehicle was left sitting in her garage.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Just a thought....has anyone looked into the fact that Nancy's house was up for sale and then unlisted? That means that others would have had the keys to the home possibly? Presumably real estate agents have been encouraged to check their unoccupied properties?

A random thought that keeps popping into my head. JMO MOO IMO and all that jazz.

I have thought the same that keeps popping into my head too! It was reported her home had been listed a second time in 2024 and I can’t find that article to source. That means real estate agents as well as prospective buyers had easy access to view the cameras, layout, lighting and so on with plenty of opportunity to case the property. MOO

 

[submarine7]

It is an odd situation, Ivan Miller (I guess I should say allegedly) murdering three women in Utah apparently in order to steal their cars? It’s easy for me to want to feel like every not-ancient guy with two eyes could be Lantana Man. Sigh.

3 Utah women were killed at random for their vehicles, police say

An Iowa man has been arrested in Colorado following an intense manhunt and accused of killing three women at random in southern Utah.

www.ksl.com

It really underscores the fact that his look is not unique.

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Was Nancy's house ever for sale or is this conjecture?

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029610833693528535

 

[LRinCA]

Was Nancy's house ever for sale or is this conjecture?

You can see the price history here. Listings are included:

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5820-N-Camino-Escalante_Tucson_AZ_85718_M25791-20168

 

[MerlinFalcon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029615801771466849

I’m glad he mentioned it because I’ve been watching them on you tube. I wonder if the fbi has taken over as primary.

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

DBM.

 

[OldCop]

the facial hair under the mask looked painted on, possibly tatooed not like real facial hair at all. mOO

This is available on Amazon. I’m sure there are many of similar type sold in costume shops, party stores, etc. I’m not sold on a double mask theory, but it certainly possible.