Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shonyakay]

Right. Until they have significant reason to believe NG is the victim of a homicide, it will remain a missing persons case. So clearly (MOO) there was not enough blood evidence inside the home to reasonably indicate NG would be deceased. It's hard to have a "no body" homicide case & if this were to switch to homicide, I'd be extremely curious about the evidence that almost certainly would have to be brand new/freshly discovered.

I agree because even though Nanos had brought in the Homicide team he still mentioned at the February 2, 2026 press conference that if you think you see Nancy, take a picture of her.

He also has stated that there is no evidence that she is deceased.

 

[Sadi]

Can someone explain what might cause internet outage among a few houses? I guess it could also be power or cable TV outage.

I listened to Brian Entin’s interview from yesterday and he interviewed two people who were involved with the Kohlberger case. They said a jammer would affect more homes than just Nancy’s.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029750753561301457

 

[stmichael]

But doesn’t Internet outage cycle back to the Nest cam in the alcove still being viable because it had battery back up and also stored images awaiting uploading? So if an accomplice was meant to bring a car around and decided to scope the front walkway, he could have seen the Nest still operable and had to physically remove it before Nancy was brought out the front door?

Ok so if there was no signal the camera would still function locally and record on its internal memory, and also go through the motions (light up, detect, record). It would just not transmit the footage to the cloud or send a push alert to a phone, until connected again.

It seems from the footage that the masked man was surprised by the camera or the motion detection light, and then fumbled to disable it. I don't think he even knew it was there (the vestibule is covered and very dark, posted several pics of this a few posts up)

The footage uploaded to the server once a connection was established again.

 

[maskedwoman]

I'm hearing some buzz online about SATG:
SOUTH AMERICAN THEFT GROUPS
A term used by the FBI and local law enforcement to describe transnational organized crime rings.



Key Aspects of South American Theft Groups (SATGs):

• Operation: These groups are often composed of foreign nationals, sometimes referred to as "burglary tourists," who may enter the U.S. illegally or via visa waivers.
• Methods: They use advanced techniques, including surveillance, Wi-Fi jammers, and disguises to avoid detection. They frequently rent vehicles, use fake IDs, and rely on encrypted messaging apps.
• Targets: High-end residential neighborhoods are heavily targeted, with a notable increase in incidents involving Asian-American business owners.
• Impact: Law enforcement has documented millions of dollars in losses across multiple states.
• Locations: Significant activity has been reported in California, Texas, and various other states.
  FBI (.gov)

I'VE BEEN READING UP ON THESE CRIMINALS. They check a lot of boxes in this case. Advanced techniques, thorough pre-planning, disguises, surveillance, work in teams. Experienced. Use crypto-currency.

They are known for casing neighbourhoods in the pre-planning phase. They use surveillance techniques, and then plan their home invasion for later date, and come prepared.

That is very interesting in a terrifying way, but I would expect an organized group to hit more than one house. And to be better prepared than Lantana Man appears to have been. MOOooo

 

[Napoli]

February 5, 2026 Sheriff Nanos stated the following,

"Sunday morning, early morning at 1:47 a.m. the doorbell camera disconnects."

"At 2:12 a.m., software detects a person on camera, but there's no video available. They had no subscription and therefore it would rewrite itself. Kind of it, it just kind of loops right, and covers up.
That's what are analysis teams have told us. We're not done with that. We'll do all we can, but that's what it says. So, that detects a person on camera. Could that be an animal? I imagine that's possible. We don't know that. We just have no video, but we're not giving up on that."

Five days later on February 10, 2026 the FBI with the help of Google successfully recovered Nancy's front door nest camera footage via residual data in Google's backend system.

Based on reporting from early February 2026, the Pima County Sheriff's Department indicated that a smart home device at Nancy Guthrie's residence detected a person on camera at approximately 2:12 a.m. on February 1, 2026.

Facebook +1

• Details of the Alert: Sheriff Chris Nanos stated that while the system recorded a "person detected" alert at 2:12 a.m., there was no saved video clip available because there was no active subscription to save the footage.
• Significance of the Time: Law enforcement sources indicated that this 2:12 a.m. activity is believed to be when the perpetrator was at the door, shortly before or after the doorbell camera was disconnected at 1:47 a.m. and her pacemaker app showed a disconnection from her phone at 2:28 a.m..
• Video Release: While the 2:12 a.m. alert was text-based, the FBI and Sheriff's Department later released recovered video footage from February 10, 2026, showing a masked, armed individual at the home around that time.
  
  
  Instagram +4

The announcement regarding the 2:12 a.m. alert was largely made around February 5, 2026, when Sheriff Nanos began sharing the timeline of the investigation.

YouTube +1

 

[shonyakay]

Just catching up here and wanted to add two random things:

1. I have a friend in the jewelry industry who has attended the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show for numerous years. She said that items get stolen from the show ALL the time and that it's kind of free-for-all. In my personal opinion, if someone wanted gems, they could hit the show and steal there. Check out the videos of the show this year - people have backpacks, huge purses, etc. - and the show is HUGE size-wise. IMO, no need to rob NG's house (or any other house) for gems.

2. Has LE ever said one way or another that this was an isolated incident and there is no threat to the public? Personally, I feel feel this was likely a targeted act, but if I am wrong and the individual(s) responsible like to prey on the elderly, I'd hope LE would issue some kind of blanket statement to the general public. Maybe that's me asking too much.

All IMO.

At the February 2nd presser when a reporter asked the Sheriff if there was any threat to the public he said although there is crime in Tucson there is not people kidnapping elderly people from their home every night.

 

[stmichael]

I listened to Brian Entin’s interview from yesterday and he interviewed two people who were involved with the Kohlberger case. They said a jammer would affect more homes than just Nancy’s.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029750753561301457

Really depends. Low- to Mid level portable jammers are effective to only 15-50ft in some cases, depending on were they are standing and factors like obstacles. I doubt these guys with the $5 mismatched holster and $15 Walmart backpack had military grade equipment, likely a temu jammer.

 

[FaviousM]

This sequence of events makes sense to me:

• Perp knew there was a camera in advance (perhaps by suggested Jan 11th visit)
• Camera is intentionally taken offline at 1:47am via WiFi Jammer or some other means
• Perp is waiting and/or doing some other prep for the next 30 odd minutes
• At some point before 2:12am the internet connection to the camera comes back online (if it's a WiFi jammer maybe the battery died or something)
• Perp finally goes to enter the house (or at least try to) via the front door around 2:12am when the video is captured and gets out to Google's servers
• Perp is surprised to see the camera is online (should be able to tell it's online via the light colour) and tries stuffing plants in front of it
• Perp eventually disconnects/breaks the camera and takes it with them

Could be one person, could be multiple but I think it works

As for why a short range WiFi jammer would affect neighbours connections, maybe it was just a brief thing as he is passing by and already has the jammer on to be extra sure it'll be ready to block the camera's connection when he gets there

 

[shonyakay]

Has anyone seen any confirmation that there was an Uber driver or any talk of LE interview with that person?

"Uber. We did speak to a driver because Nancy, we learned, had been taken, uh, uh the Uber to the family residence um, uh the, the daughter for dinner and we located that driver and spoke with them and, and, got that information." - Sheriff Nanos 02/05

Timestamp: 9:45

 

[SlimPickens]

Maybe the media has a cutoff point. It may be expensive to send reporters and crews out in the field like this. Housing, food, travel costs. Especially when there is no breaking news items from FBI or LE. Also the public has a short attention span and has moved on to other news.

But I hope you are right that an arrest is imminent.

Yes, I'm sure the media has a cutoff point in terms of resources on a case, but it isn't usually driven by bean counters. Rather, public opinion. Media income is generated primarily via ad revenue, and if the clicks on Youtube are an indicator, that hasn't really decreased. Clicks may have even increased in some respects.

The media left because LE specifically and overtly kept encouraging them to. And when many still stayed, they forced them out with parking ordinances and the like.

Press conferences stopped and media utilization for the case essentially dried up right after the second raid.

JMO.

 

[Sadi]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: FBI asks neighbors about tech glitch as search hits day 34

The FBI returned to talk to neighbors of missing Nancy Guthrie about possible glitches with their internet on the night that the 84-year-old went missing during the early hours of Feb. 1.

www.foxnews.com

So it sounds like they are entertaining the idea of some sort of disruption of the internet

Update from Brian Entin’s recent post from today about a possible internet disruption on the night of Nancy’s kidnapping. FBI are investigating.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029951311580647529

 

[FaviousM]

Update from Brian Entin’s recent post from today about a possible internet disruption on the night of Nancy’s kidnapping. FBI are investigating.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029951311580647529

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

 

[Rick7788]

Do you have the house address? Do you know who lives there? I wonder if the FBI visited this house yesterday? And removed something as evidence?

I don't want to post the address because it is probably against board rules.
But you can easily find it by viewing it in the video of the 2 FBI agents walking down the driveway to their car--the video captures the address on the mailbox. You can also get address/owners via google maps/other searches.

 

[SlimPickens]

We are at war, it would appear. The Guthrie case cannot compete with that. It was a headline grabber for sure and certainly intrigued the masses. It was not a 24/7 national concern worthy, all absorbing subject that they made it out to be. Once the ransom notes, Instagram responses by the family and the high speed , cinematic raids were done, the networks were left with 25 portly, "talking- expert" heads who dished the dirt and said virtually nothing.

I dont think LE has much. Or not enough to create news above what the pod casters are trying to breathe life into. SG going to NBC yesterday was not news, imo. It was a hat tip to her grief, perhaps but it told us nothing. She will go back but doesnt know when. Hardly, definitive. That's all. Not sure we even needed to know that. basically a filler story to give viewers a little piece of something to chew on and a respite from Iran. JMO

Media is driven by public interest and that hasn't really waned. No one cares about war when a sensational crime is before them. Media never left OJ, and they wouldn't have left this one either had they not essentially been intimidated by new ordinances and similar innuendo. Media outlets were outwardly encouraged to leave by law enforcement, and it's really no secret how and when it occurred. And that is just after the second raid.

JMO.

 

[SMK777]

Media is driven by public interest and that hasn't really waned. No one cares about war when a sensational crime is before them. Media never left OJ, and they wouldn't have left this one either had they not essentially been intimidated by new ordinances and similar innuendo. Media outlets were outwardly encouraged to leave by law enforcement, and it's really no secret how and when it occurred. And that is just after the second raid.

JMO.

Probably this is actually the case, yes.

 

[dotr]

Mar 6, 2026 #savannahguthrie #nancyguthrie #todayshow
As the search continues for Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie visited TODAY's Studio 1A for the first time since her mother’s disappearance. “I have every intention of coming back. I don’t know how to come back, but I don’t know how not to. You’re my family. And I would like to try,” she told the staff.

'Today' Cohosts Prayed With Visiting Savannah Guthrie For Missing Mother

The Today show cohosts reflected this morning on yesterday's set visit by colleague Savannah Guthrie, whose mother Nancy remains missing.

deadline.com

“There were 100 people in the room, and she came into the middle, no speech, just spoke from the heart, and said the most perfect words you could ever imagine, and looked every one of this family, in the eyes,” said Carson Daly, adding, “Yesterday was, I think, one of the most special days, not just in our lives professionally, but personally.”

Daly continued, “Her grace is second to none, under pressure, and her faith…I just can’t say enough incredible things about what an amazing spirit she is.”
Watch the this morning’s Today segment above.''

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

No--it is the house next door on the same side of street.
They have been to this house many many many many many times.
Something about this house has piqued their interest more than any other, IMO.
They keep going back.......
Remember--LE was seen behind this house going removing the manhole cover and probing with a pole back on Feb 8th.

As an aside--is this also the house where the lady resident has been antagonistic/hostile towards the media?
Upthread there was video of a resident lashing out at reporters. Anyone know if this is the same house/resident?

Brian Entin of News Nation would know if the antagonist female resident lived in this house?

Agree with Rick that LE and FBI have gone to this house numerous times. So many that I've lost track. Something of interest for LE with this house and possibly with their residents.

Putting NG in one's car significantly improves the chance of the perp being caught because of whatever signs of NG might be left in the car - hair, blood etc. If NG was not alive when she was removed from the house, it would make sense that the perp would get riid of NG's body close by NG's house and not transport her in his car.

If he did this, it would make better sense to me if he took NG somewhere from her back yard gate to another adjacent back yard since you would be less likely to be seen.

Since the perp cased this house ahead of the crime, he likely cased the neighboring houses, too, so he knew about their cameras etc.

The blood on the front walkway made me think the perp pulled up a car in NG's circular driveway and put NG in his car that way. But, what if he didn't put NG in his car but rather dragged NG in a tarp to a neighbor's back yard and put her in one of the manholes in a neighbor's back yard.

JMO

 

[Sadi]

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

Me too, it seems like it’s too much of a coincidence.

 

[minazoe]

still vibing on the Utah dude. the eyes..mOO

 

[ab01]

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

There have been cases when an individual disconnected their camera/wifi purposely to not record at a relevant time. Not saying that's what happened here, but might be a clue for investigators.

That would be more Likely than the perp using a wifi jammer. I searched and couldn't find a single case in the U.S. that documented that a wifi jammer was used in a successful kidnapping.

I have a feeling this case might be at a stage where they are re-interviewing witnesses that may have been dismissed early on.