Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[FaviousM]

Update from Brian Entin’s recent post from today about a possible internet disruption on the night of Nancy’s kidnapping. FBI are investigating.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029951311580647529

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

 

[Rick7788]

Do you have the house address? Do you know who lives there? I wonder if the FBI visited this house yesterday? And removed something as evidence?

I don't want to post the address because it is probably against board rules.
But you can easily find it by viewing it in the video of the 2 FBI agents walking down the driveway to their car--the video captures the address on the mailbox. You can also get address/owners via google maps/other searches.

 

[SlimPickens]

We are at war, it would appear. The Guthrie case cannot compete with that. It was a headline grabber for sure and certainly intrigued the masses. It was not a 24/7 national concern worthy, all absorbing subject that they made it out to be. Once the ransom notes, Instagram responses by the family and the high speed , cinematic raids were done, the networks were left with 25 portly, "talking- expert" heads who dished the dirt and said virtually nothing.

I dont think LE has much. Or not enough to create news above what the pod casters are trying to breathe life into. SG going to NBC yesterday was not news, imo. It was a hat tip to her grief, perhaps but it told us nothing. She will go back but doesnt know when. Hardly, definitive. That's all. Not sure we even needed to know that. basically a filler story to give viewers a little piece of something to chew on and a respite from Iran. JMO

Media is driven by public interest and that hasn't really waned. <modsnip> Media never left OJ, and they wouldn't have left this one either had they not essentially been intimidated by new ordinances and similar innuendo. Media outlets were outwardly encouraged to leave by law enforcement, and it's really no secret how and when it occurred. And that is just after the second raid.

JMO.

 

[SMK777]

Media is driven by public interest and that hasn't really waned. <modsnip> Media never left OJ, and they wouldn't have left this one either had they not essentially been intimidated by new ordinances and similar innuendo. Media outlets were outwardly encouraged to leave by law enforcement, and it's really no secret how and when it occurred. And that is just after the second ra

JMO.

Probably this is actually the case, yes.

 

[dotr]

Mar 6, 2026 #savannahguthrie #nancyguthrie #todayshow
As the search continues for Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie visited TODAY's Studio 1A for the first time since her mother’s disappearance. “I have every intention of coming back. I don’t know how to come back, but I don’t know how not to. You’re my family. And I would like to try,” she told the staff.

'Today' Cohosts Prayed With Visiting Savannah Guthrie For Missing Mother

The Today show cohosts reflected this morning on yesterday's set visit by colleague Savannah Guthrie, whose mother Nancy remains missing.

deadline.com

“There were 100 people in the room, and she came into the middle, no speech, just spoke from the heart, and said the most perfect words you could ever imagine, and looked every one of this family, in the eyes,” said Carson Daly, adding, “Yesterday was, I think, one of the most special days, not just in our lives professionally, but personally.”

Daly continued, “Her grace is second to none, under pressure, and her faith…I just can’t say enough incredible things about what an amazing spirit she is.”
Watch the this morning’s Today segment above.''

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

No--it is the house next door on the same side of street.
They have been to this house many many many many many times.
Something about this house has piqued their interest more than any other, IMO.
They keep going back.......
Remember--LE was seen behind this house going removing the manhole cover and probing with a pole back on Feb 8th.

As an aside--is this also the house where the lady resident has been antagonistic/hostile towards the media?
Upthread there was video of a resident lashing out at reporters. Anyone know if this is the same house/resident?

Brian Entin of News Nation would know if the antagonist female resident lived in this house?

Agree with Rick that LE and FBI have gone to this house numerous times. So many that I've lost track. Something of interest for LE with this house and possibly with their residents.

Putting NG in one's car significantly improves the chance of the perp being caught because of whatever signs of NG might be left in the car - hair, blood etc. If NG was not alive when she was removed from the house, it would make sense that the perp would get riid of NG's body close by NG's house and not transport her in his car.

If he did this, it would make better sense to me if he took NG somewhere from her back yard gate to another adjacent back yard since you would be less likely to be seen.

Since the perp cased this house ahead of the crime, he likely cased the neighboring houses, too, so he knew about their cameras etc.

The blood on the front walkway made me think the perp pulled up a car in NG's circular driveway and put NG in his car that way. But, what if he didn't put NG in his car but rather dragged NG in a tarp to a neighbor's back yard and put her in one of the manholes in a neighbor's back yard.

JMO

 

[Sadi]

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

Me too, it seems like it’s too much of a coincidence.

 

[minazoe]

still vibing on the Utah dude. the eyes..mOO

 

[ab01]

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

There have been cases when an individual disconnected their camera/wifi purposely to not record at a relevant time. Not saying that's what happened here, but might be a clue for investigators.

That would be more Likely than the perp using a wifi jammer. I searched and couldn't find a single case in the U.S. that documented that a wifi jammer was used in a successful kidnapping.

I have a feeling this case might be at a stage where they are re-interviewing witnesses that may have been dismissed early on.

 

[Sadi]

I don't want to post the address because it is probably against board rules.
But you can easily find it by viewing it in the video of the 2 FBI agents walking down the driveway to their car--the video captures the address on the mailbox. You can also get address/owners via google maps/other searches.

Thank you, I’m going to try that now.

 

[Jade]

Has anyone seen any confirmation that there was an Uber driver or any talk of LE interview with that person?

Guthrie took an Uber to her daughter Annie’s home around 5:32 p.m. on Saturday, January 31, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said. He said detectives have since interviewed the Uber driver, who the sheriff said is not under suspicion. The driver has been “very open” and shared video of Guthrie from inside their car, he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/05/us/timeline-nancy-guthrie-disappearance-missing-person


all imo

 

[K9Enzo]

 

[Megnut]

FWIW

Consider: if the perp/s used a wifi jammer successfully, completing their crime of choice quickly, had NG not left blood behind, what evidence would have been left?

Broken flood light. What else? Were there signs of a s muffled, besides the blood?

It might have looked like NG simply evaporated.

Beginning to look like the perp/s did jam cameras but not long enough, and the alert was recorded at 2:12, which ultimately led to the recovery of the videos/image.

Something about the crime took longer than the perp/s intended.

JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

Thanks! It doesn't change my thinking. I believe the ransom notes were generated by an insider with knowledge of the crime scene...JMO

I still ( mainly) believe the ransom notes were sent by separate criminals, opportunists that jumped in, to try to make $.

The “one specific item” ( supposedly, only the kidnapper would know), that was mentioned in the first ransom note, was the Apple Watch charger, foot of bed. That info ( supposedly) “confirmed “ that the note was genuine and from the kidnapper. All ransom writer's idea, to try to be convincing.

JMO, It’s Not true, that mentioning the placement of the charger, signifies that the notes are genuinely from the kidnapper. The notes still could have come from separate opportunists.

NG likely charged her phone in that spot for a very long time. She had lots of workers to the house, many inside ( maybe even realtor images showed charger placement). A ransom note writer, ( maybe a worker at the house), likely thought it would be good ruse to “ confirm” that the notes are genuine, to get paid ransom. Lots of workers could have seen the charger placement.

I’m still open minded, as more info is revealed, but I mainly think ransom people are separate from the abduction, just opportunists.

JMO

 

[Cats Against Crime]

Lately I've been more and more of the mind that an obsessed stalker best explains this case, given what we know.

I have heard many times related to this story "Who kidnaps an 84 year old woman?"

Well, nobody, really. What's the point? It's a ton of hassle and now you have to care for a terrified elderly woman with health and mobility issues.

Unless you are a totally obsessed stalker of SG. Then this is a passion project.

In this scenario, this is a person who obsesses over SG and maybe other celebrities as well. That could go either way. So he sees the feature on TV about SG and NG that we've all talked about. That puts the idea in his head to check NG out, if he hadn't already.

In the course of that he learns a TON:

She is 84 and lives all by herself. Quiet neighborhood, houses spread way out, pitch dark at night, lots of elderly people (lower chance of someone being up and about at 1-2 AM), tons of shrubbery and trees to hide in, house partly blocked from view in road. House recently listed (according to reports) so he can go online and see photos of every room and some of the outside to get a good working idea of the layout. Beds/baths, where doors and windows are.

Even when a listing is taken off or a house is sold, most popular realty websites retain the language and images of the previous listing. I think you can request removal, but this is on a site by site basis and is likely time consuming and tedious, and in reality almost nobody thinks of that. Especially in a home where the doorbell camera subscription lapsed. I doubt that was done.

Biggest nugget of all for this psychopath: this is the same house SG grew up in. And he can easily gain access to it and her mother.

Nobody on this planet is likely to know more about SG than her own mother. Phone numbers, addresses, stories about her growing up, candid photos, videos, everything. And (from the POV of this stalker) this crime will all take place in HER (SG's) house.

Aside from SG herself living alone with unlocked doors in the middle of nowhere, this is the softest target a stalker could dream of.

This could also explain the 40 minutes spent inside (which I mentioned previously I don't totally buy but I'll accept it for the purposes of exploring this theory). The initial stage would be subduing NG, looking around the house for whatever he could find about SG and just spending time in what used to be her space.

I know it sounds gross/creepy, and it is, but this is how a lot of these people think. To defeat them you must think like them, as distasteful as it is.

Maybe he finds that instead of the smiling sweet grandmother he saw on TV, NG is angry and combative and will not cooperate. Maybe she refuses to tell him anything, including something as seemingly small as which room was SG's. So he snaps. This could explain the blood. Maybe he hit her to try to force compliance. He won't want to seriously hurt her, because he needs her to be ok for later when he will try to wear her down and get all the info he wants. But he has to scare her because she is yelling at him, maybe even insulting him, but most importantly she won't give him anything he is demanding.

Maybe he tried every angle to get info from her in the house before taking her away. He would want to know: which was her room? His sick fantasy is getting ruined! She won't say a thing, and maybe even fights back somehow. You can imagine his anger.

Meanwhile, tick tock. There's the 40 minutes spent inside.

Eventually he realizes this is all pointless, but he was always going to take her, because he figures he can get most of the info he wants over the course of time in a more controlled location. He's also about to become one of the most important people in SG's life (in a sick way) because he has her mom. This is stalker 101: he has power over her now AND he likely thinks he will get info out of NG eventually.

This explains the blood. It explains nothing being stolen (he wants NG for the info and knowledge she has). It explains no serious ransom note (the point was not money). It explains nobody coming forward for the million dollars (he acted alone in this scenario). It explains his seeming "amateur" behavior on the porch (maybe this is his first time doing something like this and he's off kilter mentally and likely very nervous and worked up because of everything I mentioned above).

Stalkers want information about their target and any type of control they can get above anything else in the world.

The only silver lining in this scenario might be that he would almost certainly want to keep NG alive and well, because the whole point would be her being a connection to SG and him having control of her. He would want to hear stories about SG growing up. Her favorite things. Everything about her. He would need NG alive and well for that, and IMO this was the entire point of his operation.

A final word on him getting away with it. A lot of times first-timers or one offs don't follow any established pattern, so they can initially be harder to catch. Since they don't follow the A-B-C crime profile they can slip through the cracks. But they eventually slip up. He'll be caught IMO. Likely relatively soon.

All just my opinion, but I'm starting to think that something in the neighborhood of the above scenario is the best explanation, given what we know.

 

[Sadi]

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

If I’m looking at the right house, it belongs to a well known Tucson jeweler.

 

[pitbull]

I still ( mainly) believe the ransom notes were sent by separate criminals, opportunists that jumped in, to try to make $.

The “one specific item” ( supposedly, only the kidnapper would know), that was mentioned in the first ransom note, was the Apple Watch charger, foot of bed. That info ( supposedly) “confirmed “ that the note was genuine and from the kidnapper. All ransom writer's idea, to try to be convincing.

JMO, It’s Not true, that mentioning the placement of the charger, signifies that the notes are genuinely from the kidnapper. The notes still could have come from separate opportunists.

NG likely charged her phone in that spot for a very long time. She had lots of workers to the house, many inside ( maybe even realtor images showed charger placement). A ransom note writer, ( maybe a worker at the house), likely thought it would be good ruse to “ confirm” that the notes are genuine, to get paid ransom. Lots of workers could have seen the charger placement.

I’m still open minded, as more info is revealed, but I mainly think ransom people are separate from the abduction, just opportunists.

JMO

Could an initial crime scene responder have noticed some of these specifics that morning and decided to take advantage with bogus ransom notes? That's my thought process. JMO

Do we know if NG was taken in her pj's/night gown or is there evidence of a change of clothes?

 

[Vaderman]

Update from Brian Entin’s recent post from today about a possible internet disruption on the night of Nancy’s kidnapping. FBI are investigating.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029951311580647529

Well that adds yet another interesting twist. Might also explain why no vehicles of interest have been released. JMO

 

[Sadi]

Guthrie took an Uber to her daughter Annie’s home around 5:32 p.m. on Saturday, January 31, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said. He said detectives have since interviewed the Uber driver, who the sheriff said is not under suspicion. The driver has been “very open” and shared video of Guthrie from inside their car, he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/05/us/timeline-nancy-guthrie-disappearance-missing-person


all imo

Interesting, I had no idea the trips were video recorded.

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

Lately I've been more and more of the mind that an obsessed stalker best explains this case, given what we know.

I have heard many times related to this story "Who kidnaps an 84 year old woman?"

Well, nobody, really. What's the point? It's a ton of hassle and now you have to care for a terrified elderly woman with health and mobility issues.

Unless you are a totally obsessed stalker of SG. Then this is a passion project.

In this scenario, this is a person who obsesses over SG and maybe other celebrities as well. That could go either way. So he sees the feature on TV about SG and NG that we've all talked about. That puts the idea in his head to check NG out, if he hadn't already.

In the course of that he learns a TON:

She is 84 and lives all by herself. Quiet neighborhood, houses spread way out, pitch dark at night, lots of elderly people (lower chance of someone being up and about at 1-2 AM), tons of shrubbery and trees to hide in, house partly blocked from view in road. House recently listed (according to reports) so he can go online and see photos of every room and some of the outside to get a good working idea of the layout. Beds/baths, where doors and windows are.

Even when a listing is taken off or a house is sold, most popular realty websites retain the language and images of the previous listing. I think you can request removal, but this is on a site by site basis and is likely time consuming and tedious, and in reality almost nobody thinks of that. Especially in a home where the doorbell camera subscription lapsed. I doubt that was done.

Biggest nugget of all for this psychopath: this is the same house SG grew up in. And he can easily gain access to it and her mother.

Nobody on this planet is likely to know more about SG than her own mother. Phone numbers, addresses, stories about her growing up, candid photos, videos, everything. And (from the POV of this stalker) this crime will all take place in HER (SG's) house.

Aside from SG herself living alone with unlocked doors in the middle of nowhere, this is the softest target a stalker could dream of.

This could also explain the 40 minutes spent inside (which I mentioned previously I don't totally buy but I'll accept it for the purposes of exploring this theory). The initial stage would be subduing NG, looking around the house for whatever he could find about SG and just spending time in what used to be her space.

I know it sounds gross/creepy, and it is, but this is how a lot of these people think. To defeat them you must think like them, as distasteful as it is.

Maybe he finds that instead of the smiling sweet grandmother he saw on TV, NG is angry and combative and will not cooperate. Maybe she refuses to tell him anything, including something as seemingly small as which room was SG's. So he snaps. This could explain the blood. Maybe he hit her to try to force compliance. He won't want to seriously hurt her, because he needs her to be ok for later when he will try to wear her down and get all the info he wants. But he has to scare her because she is yelling at him, maybe even insulting him, but most importantly she won't give him anything he is demanding.

Maybe he tried every angle to get info from her in the house before taking her away. He would want to know: which was her room? His sick fantasy is getting ruined! She won't say a thing, and maybe even fights back somehow. You can imagine his anger.

Meanwhile, tick tock. There's the 40 minutes spent inside.

Eventually he realizes this is all pointless, but he was always going to take her, because he figures he can get most of the info he wants over the course of time in a more controlled location. He's also about to become one of the most important people in SG's life (in a sick way) because he has her mom. This is stalker 101: he has power over her now AND he likely thinks he will get info out of NG eventually.

This explains the blood. It explains nothing being stolen (he wants NG for the info and knowledge she has). It explains no serious ransom note (the point was not money). It explains nobody coming forward for the million dollars (he acted alone in this scenario). It explains his seeming "amateur" behavior on the porch (maybe this is his first time doing something like this and he's off kilter mentally and likely very nervous and worked up because of everything I mentioned above).

Stalkers want information about their target and any type of control they can get above anything else in the world.

The only silver lining in this scenario might be that he would almost certainly want to keep NG alive and well, because the whole point would be her being a connection to SG and him having control of her. He would want to hear stories about SG growing up. Her favorite things. Everything about her. He would need NG alive and well for that, and IMO this was the entire point of his operation.

A final word on him getting away with it. A lot of times first-timers or one offs don't follow any established pattern, so they can initially be harder to catch. Since they don't follow the A-B-C crime profile they can slip through the cracks. But they eventually slip up. He'll be caught IMO. Likely relatively soon.

All just my opinion, but I'm starting to think that something in the neighborhood of the above scenario is the best explanation, given what we know.

@Napoli is going to LOVE this post. For what it's worth, I agree with a lot of what you've said. Of course, only my opinion.