Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sadi]

I don't want to post the address because it is probably against board rules.
But you can easily find it by viewing it in the video of the 2 FBI agents walking down the driveway to their car--the video captures the address on the mailbox. You can also get address/owners via google maps/other searches.

Thank you, I’m going to try that now.

 

[Jade]

Has anyone seen any confirmation that there was an Uber driver or any talk of LE interview with that person?

Guthrie took an Uber to her daughter Annie’s home around 5:32 p.m. on Saturday, January 31, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said. He said detectives have since interviewed the Uber driver, who the sheriff said is not under suspicion. The driver has been “very open” and shared video of Guthrie from inside their car, he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/05/us/timeline-nancy-guthrie-disappearance-missing-person


all imo

 

[K9Enzo]

 

[Megnut]

FWIW

Consider: if the perp/s used a wifi jammer successfully, completing their crime of choice quickly, had NG not left blood behind, what evidence would have been left?

Broken flood light. What else? Were there signs of a s muffled, besides the blood?

It might have looked like NG simply evaporated.

Beginning to look like the perp/s did jam cameras but not long enough, and the alert was recorded at 2:12, which ultimately led to the recovery of the videos/image.

Something about the crime took longer than the perp/s intended.

JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

Thanks! It doesn't change my thinking. I believe the ransom notes were generated by an insider with knowledge of the crime scene...JMO

I still ( mainly) believe the ransom notes were sent by separate criminals, opportunists that jumped in, to try to make $.

The “one specific item” ( supposedly, only the kidnapper would know), that was mentioned in the first ransom note, was the Apple Watch charger, foot of bed. That info ( supposedly) “confirmed “ that the note was genuine and from the kidnapper. All ransom writer's idea, to try to be convincing.

JMO, It’s Not true, that mentioning the placement of the charger, signifies that the notes are genuinely from the kidnapper. The notes still could have come from separate opportunists.

NG likely charged her phone in that spot for a very long time. She had lots of workers to the house, many inside ( maybe even realtor images showed charger placement). A ransom note writer, ( maybe a worker at the house), likely thought it would be good ruse to “ confirm” that the notes are genuine, to get paid ransom. Lots of workers could have seen the charger placement.

I’m still open minded, as more info is revealed, but I mainly think ransom people are separate from the abduction, just opportunists.

JMO

 

[Cats Against Crime]

Lately I've been more and more of the mind that an obsessed stalker best explains this case, given what we know.

I have heard many times related to this story "Who kidnaps an 84 year old woman?"

Well, nobody, really. What's the point? It's a ton of hassle and now you have to care for a terrified elderly woman with health and mobility issues.

Unless you are a totally obsessed stalker of SG. Then this is a passion project.

In this scenario, this is a person who obsesses over SG and maybe other celebrities as well. That could go either way. So he sees the feature on TV about SG and NG that we've all talked about. That puts the idea in his head to check NG out, if he hadn't already.

In the course of that he learns a TON:

She is 84 and lives all by herself. Quiet neighborhood, houses spread way out, pitch dark at night, lots of elderly people (lower chance of someone being up and about at 1-2 AM), tons of shrubbery and trees to hide in, house partly blocked from view in road. House recently listed (according to reports) so he can go online and see photos of every room and some of the outside to get a good working idea of the layout. Beds/baths, where doors and windows are.

Even when a listing is taken off or a house is sold, most popular realty websites retain the language and images of the previous listing. I think you can request removal, but this is on a site by site basis and is likely time consuming and tedious, and in reality almost nobody thinks of that. Especially in a home where the doorbell camera subscription lapsed. I doubt that was done.

Biggest nugget of all for this psychopath: this is the same house SG grew up in. And he can easily gain access to it and her mother.

Nobody on this planet is likely to know more about SG than her own mother. Phone numbers, addresses, stories about her growing up, candid photos, videos, everything. And (from the POV of this stalker) this crime will all take place in HER (SG's) house.

Aside from SG herself living alone with unlocked doors in the middle of nowhere, this is the softest target a stalker could dream of.

This could also explain the 40 minutes spent inside (which I mentioned previously I don't totally buy but I'll accept it for the purposes of exploring this theory). The initial stage would be subduing NG, looking around the house for whatever he could find about SG and just spending time in what used to be her space.

I know it sounds gross/creepy, and it is, but this is how a lot of these people think. To defeat them you must think like them, as distasteful as it is.

Maybe he finds that instead of the smiling sweet grandmother he saw on TV, NG is angry and combative and will not cooperate. Maybe she refuses to tell him anything, including something as seemingly small as which room was SG's. So he snaps. This could explain the blood. Maybe he hit her to try to force compliance. He won't want to seriously hurt her, because he needs her to be ok for later when he will try to wear her down and get all the info he wants. But he has to scare her because she is yelling at him, maybe even insulting him, but most importantly she won't give him anything he is demanding.

Maybe he tried every angle to get info from her in the house before taking her away. He would want to know: which was her room? His sick fantasy is getting ruined! She won't say a thing, and maybe even fights back somehow. You can imagine his anger.

Meanwhile, tick tock. There's the 40 minutes spent inside.

Eventually he realizes this is all pointless, but he was always going to take her, because he figures he can get most of the info he wants over the course of time in a more controlled location. He's also about to become one of the most important people in SG's life (in a sick way) because he has her mom. This is stalker 101: he has power over her now AND he likely thinks he will get info out of NG eventually.

This explains the blood. It explains nothing being stolen (he wants NG for the info and knowledge she has). It explains no serious ransom note (the point was not money). It explains nobody coming forward for the million dollars (he acted alone in this scenario). It explains his seeming "amateur" behavior on the porch (maybe this is his first time doing something like this and he's off kilter mentally and likely very nervous and worked up because of everything I mentioned above).

Stalkers want information about their target and any type of control they can get above anything else in the world.

The only silver lining in this scenario might be that he would almost certainly want to keep NG alive and well, because the whole point would be her being a connection to SG and him having control of her. He would want to hear stories about SG growing up. Her favorite things. Everything about her. He would need NG alive and well for that, and IMO this was the entire point of his operation.

A final word on him getting away with it. A lot of times first-timers or one offs don't follow any established pattern, so they can initially be harder to catch. Since they don't follow the A-B-C crime profile they can slip through the cracks. But they eventually slip up. He'll be caught IMO. Likely relatively soon.

All just my opinion, but I'm starting to think that something in the neighborhood of the above scenario is the best explanation, given what we know.

 

[Sadi]

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

If I’m looking at the right house, it belongs to a well known Tucson jeweler.

 

[pitbull]

I still ( mainly) believe the ransom notes were sent by separate criminals, opportunists that jumped in, to try to make $.

The “one specific item” ( supposedly, only the kidnapper would know), that was mentioned in the first ransom note, was the Apple Watch charger, foot of bed. That info ( supposedly) “confirmed “ that the note was genuine and from the kidnapper. All ransom writer's idea, to try to be convincing.

JMO, It’s Not true, that mentioning the placement of the charger, signifies that the notes are genuinely from the kidnapper. The notes still could have come from separate opportunists.

NG likely charged her phone in that spot for a very long time. She had lots of workers to the house, many inside ( maybe even realtor images showed charger placement). A ransom note writer, ( maybe a worker at the house), likely thought it would be good ruse to “ confirm” that the notes are genuine, to get paid ransom. Lots of workers could have seen the charger placement.

I’m still open minded, as more info is revealed, but I mainly think ransom people are separate from the abduction, just opportunists.

JMO

Could an initial crime scene responder have noticed some of these specifics that morning and decided to take advantage with bogus ransom notes? That's my thought process. JMO

Do we know if NG was taken in her pj's/night gown or is there evidence of a change of clothes?

 

[Vaderman]

Update from Brian Entin’s recent post from today about a possible internet disruption on the night of Nancy’s kidnapping. FBI are investigating.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029951311580647529

Well that adds yet another interesting twist. Might also explain why no vehicles of interest have been released. JMO

 

[Sadi]

Guthrie took an Uber to her daughter Annie’s home around 5:32 p.m. on Saturday, January 31, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said. He said detectives have since interviewed the Uber driver, who the sheriff said is not under suspicion. The driver has been “very open” and shared video of Guthrie from inside their car, he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/05/us/timeline-nancy-guthrie-disappearance-missing-person


all imo

Interesting, I had no idea the trips were video recorded.

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

Lately I've been more and more of the mind that an obsessed stalker best explains this case, given what we know.

I have heard many times related to this story "Who kidnaps an 84 year old woman?"

Well, nobody, really. What's the point? It's a ton of hassle and now you have to care for a terrified elderly woman with health and mobility issues.

Unless you are a totally obsessed stalker of SG. Then this is a passion project.

In this scenario, this is a person who obsesses over SG and maybe other celebrities as well. That could go either way. So he sees the feature on TV about SG and NG that we've all talked about. That puts the idea in his head to check NG out, if he hadn't already.

In the course of that he learns a TON:

She is 84 and lives all by herself. Quiet neighborhood, houses spread way out, pitch dark at night, lots of elderly people (lower chance of someone being up and about at 1-2 AM), tons of shrubbery and trees to hide in, house partly blocked from view in road. House recently listed (according to reports) so he can go online and see photos of every room and some of the outside to get a good working idea of the layout. Beds/baths, where doors and windows are.

Even when a listing is taken off or a house is sold, most popular realty websites retain the language and images of the previous listing. I think you can request removal, but this is on a site by site basis and is likely time consuming and tedious, and in reality almost nobody thinks of that. Especially in a home where the doorbell camera subscription lapsed. I doubt that was done.

Biggest nugget of all for this psychopath: this is the same house SG grew up in. And he can easily gain access to it and her mother.

Nobody on this planet is likely to know more about SG than her own mother. Phone numbers, addresses, stories about her growing up, candid photos, videos, everything. And (from the POV of this stalker) this crime will all take place in HER (SG's) house.

Aside from SG herself living alone with unlocked doors in the middle of nowhere, this is the softest target a stalker could dream of.

This could also explain the 40 minutes spent inside (which I mentioned previously I don't totally buy but I'll accept it for the purposes of exploring this theory). The initial stage would be subduing NG, looking around the house for whatever he could find about SG and just spending time in what used to be her space.

I know it sounds gross/creepy, and it is, but this is how a lot of these people think. To defeat them you must think like them, as distasteful as it is.

Maybe he finds that instead of the smiling sweet grandmother he saw on TV, NG is angry and combative and will not cooperate. Maybe she refuses to tell him anything, including something as seemingly small as which room was SG's. So he snaps. This could explain the blood. Maybe he hit her to try to force compliance. He won't want to seriously hurt her, because he needs her to be ok for later when he will try to wear her down and get all the info he wants. But he has to scare her because she is yelling at him, maybe even insulting him, but most importantly she won't give him anything he is demanding.

Maybe he tried every angle to get info from her in the house before taking her away. He would want to know: which was her room? His sick fantasy is getting ruined! She won't say a thing, and maybe even fights back somehow. You can imagine his anger.

Meanwhile, tick tock. There's the 40 minutes spent inside.

Eventually he realizes this is all pointless, but he was always going to take her, because he figures he can get most of the info he wants over the course of time in a more controlled location. He's also about to become one of the most important people in SG's life (in a sick way) because he has her mom. This is stalker 101: he has power over her now AND he likely thinks he will get info out of NG eventually.

This explains the blood. It explains nothing being stolen (he wants NG for the info and knowledge she has). It explains no serious ransom note (the point was not money). It explains nobody coming forward for the million dollars (he acted alone in this scenario). It explains his seeming "amateur" behavior on the porch (maybe this is his first time doing something like this and he's off kilter mentally and likely very nervous and worked up because of everything I mentioned above).

Stalkers want information about their target and any type of control they can get above anything else in the world.

The only silver lining in this scenario might be that he would almost certainly want to keep NG alive and well, because the whole point would be her being a connection to SG and him having control of her. He would want to hear stories about SG growing up. Her favorite things. Everything about her. He would need NG alive and well for that, and IMO this was the entire point of his operation.

A final word on him getting away with it. A lot of times first-timers or one offs don't follow any established pattern, so they can initially be harder to catch. Since they don't follow the A-B-C crime profile they can slip through the cracks. But they eventually slip up. He'll be caught IMO. Likely relatively soon.

All just my opinion, but I'm starting to think that something in the neighborhood of the above scenario is the best explanation, given what we know.

@Napoli is going to LOVE this post. For what it's worth, I agree with a lot of what you've said. Of course, only my opinion.

 

[Bruxer]

Might also explain why no vehicles of interest have been released. JMO

I thought all of the cars had been released?

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

I thought all of the cars had been released?

I think this maybe was meant to say "no descriptions of vehicles of interest" had been released - for the public to be on the lookout?

 

[Vaderman]

I thought all of the cars had been released?

Sorry, I meant no images released of vehicles of interest from neighborhood cams.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

If I’m looking at the right house, it belongs to a well known Tucson jeweler.

You've got the right house.

 

[SMK777]

@Napoli is going to LOVE this post. For what it's worth, I agree with a lot of what you've said. Of course, only my opinion.

 

[mickey2942]

@Cats Against Crime your theory makes a lot of sense. It is scary to me, that the layout of homes is available online. A burglar/home invader has all of the information right there.

 

[Cassie P]

Just catching up here and wanted to add two random things:

1. I have a friend in the jewelry industry who has attended the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show for numerous years. She said that items get stolen from the show ALL the time and that it's kind of free-for-all. In my personal opinion, if someone wanted gems, they could hit the show and steal there. Check out the videos of the show this year - people have backpacks, huge purses, etc. - and the show is HUGE size-wise. IMO, no need to rob NG's house (or any other house) for gems.

2. Has LE ever said one way or another that this was an isolated incident and there is no threat to the public? Personally, I feel feel this was likely a targeted act, but if I am wrong and the individual(s) responsible like to prey on the elderly, I'd hope LE would issue some kind of blanket statement to the general public. Maybe that's me asking too much.

All IMO.

Yes it doesn't make s

I do think his gear looks a bit stereotypical, as in, tv shows and bad movies may have informed their gear choices. But I wouldn't go so far as thinking this points to them having a show business background.

I'm willing to be convinced, but I'm not sure I could agree that SG is in show business. And I would not assume they hired local crew. There seems to be a pecking order with these things. When GMA came to Nashville, I believe they brought their own crew. The local news people weren't even allowed to catch them on film. A former GMA weather person was caught on someone's cell phone telling a local camera man "remember the rules" because he thought they accidentally caught him on camera moving the shot from one spot to another. It's an old clip and I couldn't find it just now, so I'll end with MOOooo

To clarify, I don't mean someone with drama/theater/acting training. I mean someone on the technical side, support side, experience with make-up, costume, production experience. By show business I don't mean Hollywood, but experience working in the media/TV environment.
And it could a national crew or a local one. IDK.

 

[danablue1]

There have been cases when an individual disconnected their camera/wifi purposely to not record at a relevant time. Not saying that's what happened here, but might be a clue for investigators.

That would be more Likely than the perp using a wifi jammer. I searched and couldn't find a single case in the U.S. that documented that a wifi jammer was used in a successful kidnapping.

I have a feeling this case might be at a stage where they are re-interviewing witnesses that may have been dismissed early on.

Yes you can turn your nest camera on and off easily

 

[Angeleyes_7]

New Brian Entin video regarding a neighbor of Nancy’s may have experienced an internet outage during the time Nancy was abducted….